With pleasure Naz, as far as I can.

"Naz" wrote:

1) Can any ordinary Jewish person kill the animal or does it have to be a rabbi?

The person has to be a shochet, trained in kosher slaughter (shechitah). I suppose if you know exactly what to do you may do it yourself.

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2) Also when the animal is killed is anything recited such as a prayer?

There is a blessing, although it is not necessarily required in order for the meat to be kosher. I must admit this is not something I know much about. Meat is not my thing.

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3) In your personal option would you say that kosher meat is a big part of the Jewish faith? For example in Islam during Hajj ppl sacrifice animals and the meat is distributed amongst the poor. Is there anything like this in Judaism?

Yes and no. Many Jewish vegetarians argue that vegetarianism is preferred, but this is a minority view. Meat delicacies play a part in most celebrations and feasts, and some people therefore believe it is a mitzvah (good deed) to eat meat on Sabbath and festivals. There is a ritual which involves holding something of value, traditionally a chicken but in many communities today, just some money, in a prayer for redemption of sins. However I go with a very old opinion that this is not an acceptable practise. Additionally the sacrifices described in the Torah have not been practised for two thousand years, since the destruction of the temple, which most Jews believe can only be rebuilt in a messianic era. Charity is obviously mandated and so is hospitality and helping the sick and the poor in any way. In Jerusalem not so long ago I took part in a project to pack food supplies before Shabbat for anyone who wanted. But concerning that I don't think there is a requirement so specific as to involve meat. I think that's a full answer but I may have neglected something. Chicken soup is a well regarded delicacy.

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4) You also mention that one must wait several hours before a diary product can be consumed? Is there any specific reason for this?

Yes, it is to avoid mixing meat and dairy even in digestion. Since dairy digests faster, the waiting time is longer between meat and dairy than the other way round. The root of this commandment is about cooking an animal in its mother's milk.

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5) What does kudos?

Not a Jewish term - I could have said Kol Hakavod, meaning "much respect".

@ Joie de Vivre thanks for that

"Joie de Vivre" wrote:

Maybe you do. One concession you might make would be to stop referring to non-Muslims as kafirs and to stop personifying America or Israel as "Satan".

I did not call Israel Satan.

Jews maybe wrong in many things, but they are my cousins. I wish they just put down the guns and stop shooting their way to peace. It wont happen that way.

There is one Great Satan; and most of the non-Muslim world also agrees with Iran on that, according to BBC polls.

The word Kaafir is not my invention. God says his haters are Kaafirs. They will burn in Hell.

Not all non-Muslims are Kaafirs. You might be alright.

i thought kudos was one of the aliens in The Simpsons...

anyway, I looked on http://tveasy.co.uk/ to see what is one TV tonight and realised i missed a great-sounding program this morning:

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BBC 2

6.00am CBeebies

6.20am The Story Makers CBBC
[b]
8.45am Mona the Vampire World Athletics Championships[/b]

2.45pm Escape to the Country

3.45pm Flog It!

I wouldn't worry about the athlete's steroid abuse as much as I would be concerned with their blood-sucking and tyranny abuse...

admin, i think we should have more sections. this place is seriously depressing, its got no life!!!

2 sections:

book
news

^^^
may attract more people to the forum, also can u bring some colour to the forum plz and a pack of new similes.

that’s all for now, will let you no if anything more comes to mind.

now, chop chop.

Give the poor guys a break.

Admins doing the best he can.

"malik" wrote:

"Joie de Vivre" wrote:

Maybe you do. One concession you might make would be to stop referring to non-Muslims as kafirs and to stop personifying America or Israel as "Satan".

I did not call Israel Satan.

Jews maybe wrong in many things, but they are my cousins. I wish they just put down the guns and stop shooting their way to peace. It wont happen that way.

There is one Great Satan; and most of the non-Muslim world also agrees with Iran on that, according to BBC polls.

The word Kaafir is not my invention. God says his haters are Kaafirs. They will burn in Hell.

Not all non-Muslims are Kaafirs.[b] You might be alright.[/b]

Aww bless i think deep down he actually likes you, he just doesnt know how to express it lol.

i've just had chips and samosas.. yum yum.

my birthday in 2 dayssss
my driving test in 8 days
do dua for me plz becuase if i dnt pass my dad said you cant book another test lol

happy birthday and good luck. You taking it in failsworth?

[url=http://www.goear.com/listen.php?v=86f624a]She said, "Tell me, are you a Christian child?" and I said, "Man, I am tonight!!"[/url] (Warning: More music)

our house is so un cosy at the moment were getting the house re-decorated, the back room is in the process of getting plastered and the front room contains the whole of the other room. so were living in the kitchen and upstairs.

"Naz" wrote:

happy birthday and good luck. You taking it in failsworth?

yep
my instuctor said he not going to take me cheethamhill lol
dnt blame him man
they smash your windows in and evryfing there

try not to kill anyone.

good luck, i'm sure you'll need it

am sure i will azwell
am a dangerous driver

Lebanon always has and always will defeat America.

Satan is incapable of winning in Lebanon.

US may be a big country, but size dont matter.

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[b]Lebanon — tiny country, big threats [/b]

By SCHEHEREZADE FARAMARZI, Associated Press Writer
Sat Sep 1, 1:22 PM ET

EIN EL-HILWEH REFUGEE CAMP, Lebanon - Three months after battle erupted between Lebanese soldiers and an unknown group of radicals in a Palestinian refugee camp, army commander Gen. Michel Suleiman says he now knows whom he is fighting.

Fatah Islam, he says, "is a branch of the al-Qaida organization that was planning to make Lebanon and Palestinian camps a safe haven," he told a gathering of his officers recently. Al-Qaida wants to launch operations in Lebanon and outside through Fatah Islam, he asserted.

But his opinion is only one of many.

Police officials and some experts say the group that fought in the Nahr el-Bared camp has no direct tie to Osama bin Laden's movement.

The U.S. State Department says it's an offshoot of a Syrian-backed militia, Fatah al-Intifada. Some Lebanese officials also say Syria backs the group to try to destabilize Lebanon's Western-backed government.

But pro-Syrian opposition groups say the Lebanese government's own allies initially funded the fundamentalist Sunni Muslim group to counter the influence of the Shiite Muslim movement Hezbollah. There have also been reports of Saudi money financing Fatah Islam and other Sunni jihad groups.

Whichever theory is true, they all converge on one central point: Fatah Islam and others operate here because, despite having a Western-leaning government, Lebanon remains a marketplace for extremism. It is a trading post for radical ideas, guerrilla fighters and armaments that has fostered chaos elsewhere in the Middle East.

The Palestinian refugee camp of Ein el-Hilweh on the edge of the southern city of Sidon is where most of the Palestinian radical groups are based and where plots against Israel and Western influence in Lebanon — and against Lebanese foes — are believed to be hatched. It's the largest of the 12 camps in Lebanon, housing about 45,000 of the 400,000 Palestinians whose exile dates from Israel's creation in 1948.

Bearded men in battle fatigues and carrying Kalashnikovs or pistols freely roam around the densely populated camp or guard the offices of the various groups.

Radical Islamic militias in the camp include Asbat al-Ansar ("Band of Partisans"), Jund al-Sham ("Soldiers of the Levant") and the Islamic Struggle Movement. Washington has accused Asbat al-Ansar of being linked to al-Qaida, and it and the Jund al-Sham are said to have close ties to Fatah Islam in the Nahr el-Bared camp.

Membership in each group probably numbers dozens.

While the relationship between the Sunni fundamentalist groups and al-Qaida is unclear, at the very least they are inspired by the movement's global appeal and share its philosophy of "jihad" against what it regards as American and Western attempts to dominate the Muslim world.

Timur Goksel, who has observed Lebanon for decades as a U.N. peacekeeping officer and later as a professor, believes the radical groups are wooing al-Qaida, rather than the other way around.

"I don't think there is this big drive by al-Qaida to establish as a base (for) themselves in Lebanon, but there are so many willing parties trying to do their bidding here and trying to get into the good grace of al-Qaida," Goksel said.

Retired Lebanese army Gen. Elias Hanna also said the aim of Fatah Islam leader Shaker al-Absi was to be "adopted" by al-Qaida leaders. Hanna said the disparate radical groups in the refugee camps amount to a "new breed of al-Qaida ... maybe third generation al-Qaida."

These groups publicly deny any ties or allegiance to al-Qaida, but voice support for its main cause — fighting America. Washington has long been criticized by Arabs for supporting Israel, and its actions in Iraq and Afghanistan are seen by many Muslims as a war against their faith.

"We converge with al-Qaida and approve its role in Iraq and Afghanistan," said Sheik Walid Sharif, spokesman for Asbat al-Ansar. "Sheik Osama is our sheik, may God protect him."

Sharif says he has sent more than 300 Palestinian and Lebanese recruits to fight in Iraq alongside Ansar al-Sunnah, an Iraqi group with close links to al-Qaida, and that he has been in contact with al-Qaida in Mesopotamia, which is believed affiliated with bin Laden.

About 25 of his men have died in operations in Iraq, including suicide bombings, Sharif said.

Another Palestinian radical leader, Sheik Jamal Khattab of the Islamic Struggle Group, pointed out that not every Muslim fighting American occupation in Iraq and Afghanistan is with al-Qaida. He also sought to distance his group from the loss of innocent lives in Iraq.

"We support anyone who fights America or Israel, but we are against ... killing of innocent civilians," he said.

In Lebanon, intelligence officials blame radical Palestinians in Ein el-Hilweh for at least two recent attacks, a rocket fired into Israel in mid-June that caused damage but no casualties and a car bombing a week later that killed six Spanish members of UNIFIL, the peacekeeping unit monitoring the shaky truce between Israel and Hezbollah guerrillas.

The attack on the peacekeepers came nine months after al-Qaida's No. 2, Ayman al-Zawahri, called in a videotape for attacks on the "crusader forces" in Lebanon, an apparent reference to the 13,000 U.N. peacekeepers.

More recently, a Web site used by al-Qaida urged militants in Lebanon to defend Fatah Islam, the group facing the army in Nahr el-Bared. "Islamists, rise up and aid your brothers in Nahr al-Bared. This is your religious duty," the statement said.

Authorities say members of Fatah Islam have confessed to bombing two buses near Beirut in February in which three people died and 20 were wounded, and the government has accused the group of planning other attacks. But the Lebanese army did not move against the group until after its fighters ambushed more than 30 army soldiers.

The group's strength had grown to hundreds of fighters — Palestinians, Lebanese and other Arabs — and the battle with the army was the worst violence Lebanon has suffered since its 1975-90 civil war, killing some 150 soldiers, an unknown number of militants and more than 20 civilians.

In Nahr el-Bared and the other refugee camps, the rise of the radical Islamic groups has further cut the influence of the secular Palestine Liberation Organization, which once controlled the camps but saw its power wane after its fighters were driven out by Israel's 1982 invasion of Lebanon.

Goksel, the former UNIFIL officer, fears the real danger is that the radical Islamic movements will keep recruiting fighters in the poor, overcrowded camps and carry out more attacks until they finally get the backing of their would-be patron, al-Qaida, while authorities miss a chance to squelch the jihadists.

He said the government is not taking the danger seriously because rival political camps and the country's diverse security agencies can't work together to make a realistic judgment of the radical groups.

"Information comes in bits and pieces from different agencies which don't share their intelligence," he said. "That's why they're not getting a coherent picture, the real picture of the danger."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070901/ap_on_re_mi_ea/lebanon_dangerous_cro...

aaahh, hate college! hate my new class, feel like taking another year out..

"Noor" wrote:

aaahh, hate college! hate my new class, feel like taking another year out..

cry

i k now exactly how you feel
waking up in the morning sooo earlyyyy
all these techers xplaing how hard this year going to be
hateeee it

i'm moving colleges again.. hopefully this will be my last move insha'Allah.

^^^ how come? it cant be that bad. At first i didnt like it either, took me bout 6 months to settle in but then after that i didnt want to leave. I miss college

trust me ukhti, it is that bad. first day and i'm already hating it. i'm the only muslim in my class, the college doesn't even have a pray room, don't no anyone there.. and the college is in some farm lol. insha'Allah im defo moving, wasted last year cz i chose the wrong course, not gona make the same mistake this year.

First day bac at 6 form and already depresssed

join the club ukhti

Learn to have fun you sad people. Time at school are the best days enjoy em while they last!

Believe me, in my skool u wud be depressed ,everyone on such a different wavelength.

"Angel" wrote:

Learn to have fun you sad people. Time at school are the best days enjoy em while they last!

School yeah, i loved school but not college! everyone has totally lost it, no deen in them whatsoever. anyway, insha'Allah going to other college so all should be well... i hope.

"Bliss" wrote:

Believe me, in my skool u wud be depressed ,everyone on such a different wavelength.

thast the whole point when you move your meet all different kinds of ppl, its interesting to know other ppl view instead of ppl always agreeing. If your struggle now you aint gonna like uni.

"Noor" wrote:

i'm the only muslim in my class

and whats wrong with that. I hate asian infested places, its times like that i realise that i have very little common with my own ppl. Each to their own i suppose.

"Noor" wrote:

the college doesn't even have a pray room

my uni does and i still dont use it. I just go and find an empty room and pray there.

"Noor" wrote:

don't no anyone there..

Its hard when you dont know anyone but there aint no point in being shy get out there an talk to ppl. If they ignore you then dont bother with them they have just missed out on making a really cool friend