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no doubt it's gona be hard for you but thats why this life is a test, Allah (swt) is testing each and every one of us in different ways, and if we pass that test we'll insha'allah get jannah and if not, we have jahanam awaiting us. so see this as ur test.
was here he would totally disaprove of this. also say, that you love Allah (swt) and his Prophet 
more than her and dunya, so whatever pleases them you will do and whatever dis-pleases them you will avoid. that way, you wont come across as harsh and she'll understand.
i'm assuming she is a muslim so its easy. so say to her that you and her both no this relationship is totally un-halal and isn't gona go anywhere, and if the holy prophet
make du'a to Allah (swt) that he makes this easy for you and when u strive in the way of Allah (swt), He will help you no doubt. yes u will find it hard as there is fitna everywhere u look but thats part of life and a part of our test. control your nafs, don't let it control you!
thanks bro's u made me realise some important things
inshallah am gnna have the courage to tel her a.s.a.p.
i cant go up 2 my parents and say i wanna marry her, they would kill me
and she being a girl she cant exactly say it either
i already know her answer to when i tell her aswell. it gnna be something like
"wat made u realise this after soo long
not like your a perfect muslim so what making you do this
if you dnt wana be with me dnt make up excusez just tel me str8"
then she gnna cry 4 a week n send me a txt bout 60 pages long
sayin i luv u n knt i liv like this
i wish she never kame into my life, would have made things alot better
"ThiS WoRlD Iz A PrIsOn 4 A BeLiVeR AnD PaRaDiSe 4 A NoN-BeLiVeR.........."
tell her u had a reality slap. life is to short, we're only here for one purpose and one purpose only, and that’s to obey Allah and his messenger. you may not be the best muslim but who is anyone to judge. forget that girl, she'll only drag you to the fires of hell. and all that lovey dovey stuff, it's a load of cobblers, delete her number or just get a new sim. erase her from your memory!!! i'll be making dua for u bro.
ps: im a SISTER! get it? S I S T E R
Thats ridiculous... ofcourse you can fight destiny. the future is not set, there is no fate but what we make.
And Maki... why the hell would your parents kill you? They maybe a little upset, but they would see its the right thing to do. Just talk to them.
And you DONT have to marry her today for god sake. We're not saying marry her now and then go get a job to support her. Just make you're intentions clear to both your parents and hers.
At most you'll get engaged and then you can get married when you ready.
Jeez... kids these days.
Back in BLACK
@ seraphim ok maybe there are some things you can control through duas. But some you have no control over ie death.
This may come to you as a bit of a shock but we dont live in the stone ages anymore. There no such thing as the man providing for the women, well not in this country. Our generation when they marry they BOTH work and they BOTH contribute to the household bills and expenses. On the other hand if a women chooses not to work for whatever reason then it would be ok to say in those circumstances that the husband provides for his wife.
@ M4k4v3l1 - oh little naive one i am going to set you a task. I want you to go to an islamic bookstore and purchase yourself a book on hell. And i dont mean one of those where you can fill in the missing words and colour in. Im talking about a proper book with detailed descriptions of hell. Once you have purchased that book i want you to sit down and read it, cover to cover and do not miss any pages out. Then see if you can pluck up the courage to end your relationship.
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
What's with the bold text?
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
aww...
Don't just do something! Stand there.
islamically speaking the man has to provide for everything, not the woman. even though the woman works, she doesn't have to spend a single penny towards the house/food/clothes/bills etc. if she wants to, then by all means she can. but thats fardh upon the husband to provide.
yes men do have to provide for women but there nothing in the holy Qur'an saying women cant work or contribute to the household bills. If they want to then they can. I think its just a bit tight if a women is capable of working but she rather spend all her hubby money on shoes and handbags. The latter is not an islamic view just my views on the subject.
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
isn't that what i just said?
yeah, it is fairly selfish but each to their own!
how bout i gve u her number and u tel her
"ThiS WoRlD Iz A PrIsOn 4 A BeLiVeR AnD PaRaDiSe 4 A NoN-BeLiVeR.........."
probably not great idea
Don't just do something! Stand there.
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HOW WELL ARE YOU DOING?! (don't need to tell everyone your result!)
NOW ASK YOURSELF: ARE YOU DOING ALL YOU COULD BE?
Don't just do something! Stand there.
Not a chance. You got yourself into this mess now get yourself out.
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
Damn straight... whats the world coming to if guys cant even do the simpliest things.
Such weakness is off putting.
Back in BLACK
I’m of to Al-Hidayah camp tomorrow, can’t wait! So excited
Remember me in you du’as and don’t miss me to much!
Fi’amanillah!
Looks like i will be seeing you their then noori
A rose protects its beauty with thorns..a woman protects hers with a veil
Have a great time... I'm sure you will.
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what is this?
I was actually quite :shock:
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
Shalom Joie de Vivre
I was just wondering how is food made kosher in Judaism?
Lehitraot (i think thats right)
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
1. buy halal meat
2. stick 'kosher' label on packaging
3. or, atleast, thats how we used to do it when I worked in Golders Green.
Don't just do something! Stand there.
Halal and Kosher is not the same thing.
Back in BLACK
not with THAT attitude, anyway
Don't just do something! Stand there.
There is nothing kosher in Jerusalem. It is occupied city.
Everything that Israelis do there is Haraam. They eat unclean food.
We all believe that God hates oppression.
Ayatollah rightly named America as "Great Satan".
www.presstv.ir
we're not talking about jerusalem, we're talking about Finchley and Edgeware!
Don't just do something! Stand there.
Kudos Naz!
Ya'qub, I trust you're kidding about the labelling. In honesty, such things are not unknown, although not, to my awareness, in the strict matter of kosher meat.
Kashrut can get complicated but the basic principles are:
Only meat that has cloven (split) hooves and can chew the cud (generally herbivorous) is kosher, and birds that are not birds of prey. Kosher meat is killed with an extremely sharp knife in a single upward stroke to the throat. It has to be specially drained and salted - the blood isn't kosher - and only certain parts of the body can be eaten. Fish must have fins and scales - so no shellfish or shark, for example, and caviare isn't kosher either for some reason - and must also be properly drained. None of this appeals to me but as you know I'm vegetarian.
Meat and dairy cannot be served together and one has to wait several hours after a meat meal before consuming any dairy. An advantage of being vegetarian is I can have better deserts and milk with my after dinner coffee. A kosher kitchen maintains strict separation between surfaces and items used for preparing or eating meat and those for dairy, requiring more storage than most kitchens.
There are other rules as well, such as not collecting eggs in the presence of the hen and not serving meat and fish in the same course, and wine and bread (which should be blessed and prepared in a particular manner) and cheese, to be kosher, generally require a knowledgeable Jew to assist.
Given these rules and other intricacies a longstanding tradition some hold is that wherever possible all food preparation must be personally observed, or else carefully supervised and approved by a trained rabbinate (hence the stylised Hebrew labelling on some foods and certificates in some shop windows). This has its roots in times that trading standards were non-existent and it was necessary, for instance, to establish that no pigs' milk had been blended with other dairy produce.
Some of these laws are directly from the Torah, while others are deduced in Talmud as safeguarding the laws.
(Personally I am not extremely fussy in the matter of rabbinic supervision but I am extremely fussy on vegetarian standards, and I think that left to their own devices not all suppliers can be presumed reliable based on listed ingredients and stated practise - which I can also understand. Who except Jews, after all, thinks it a big deal if meat has been prepared using the same machine?)
Some Jews are so fussy as to trust only certain supervising authorities. I can understand this as well - what Ya'qub suggested is not impossible, and I myself sometimes question the validity of a standard given out by a body that relies for it's income on the manufacturer. Colour me unconvinced.
Then again, Greggs is no match for the better bakeries in Golders Green (which, having dairy kitchens, do not serve any meat).
The rules of Passover are even more stringent, since we cannot eat any leaven, including most flour products. That is the kind of issue on which I relate to what Ya'qub is saying, where people have been known to stick labels on such innocuous items as apple juice for an extra buck.
The opposite of kosher ("kasher" is the proper Hebrew pronunciation), is "treife", and items that contain neither meat nor dairy are "parev" or "parve", labelled as such because they can be served with either.
I hope that's a good answer.
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Given your general attitudes I could not respect your view on what is halal, let alone what is kosher. I don't see why you introduce such a divisive topic into this conversation, but I don't find you so introspective and considerate as to inspire any discussion on my part.)[/size]
Joie de Vivre, I dont care if a Kaafir does not respect my views. Yet I respect his.
That is what Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) teaches me.
Ayatollah rightly named America as "Great Satan".
www.presstv.ir
Maybe you do. One concession you might make would be to stop referring to non-Muslims as kafirs and to stop personifying America or Israel as "Satan".
Perhaps you are unaware of this, but throughout the 19th century Jerusalem was majority Jewish, at the turn of the 20th century there were more than twice as many Jews as Muslims living there, and on Israel's independence in 1948 there were 100,000 Jews and 40,000 Muslims. This despite a mosque occupying the holy site of the Jewish temple.[url=http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths2/Jerusalem.html#q1][si...
Since 1948 there has been near-universal Arab hostility to Israel (though not always from Tehran). I do not support everything that Israel has done in its defence, but I do not understand the rejection of Israel's legitimacy, and advocate that Israel should defend its borders and outmanoeuvre its enemies unless those nations and groups can agree to recognise Israel as a legitimate entity like Pakistan or any other.
The claim that Israel's defence is terrorist rings hollow. Just for you I will suggest that Iran's attempts to fight the PKK, for example, are more severe than anything that Israel is doing. I say just for you because the comparison is odious - I don't expect Israel to shell Palestinian villages indiscriminately or to engage in the vicious warfare of mujahideen and certain middle eastern rulers.
Thank you that was very interesting.
Got some questions for you if you don’t mind.
1) Can any ordinary Jewish person kill the animal or does it have to be a rabbi?
2) Also when the animal is killed is anything recited such as a prayer?
3) In your personal option would you say that kosher meat is a big part of the Jewish faith? For example in Islam during Hajj ppl sacrifice animals and the meat is distributed amongst the poor. Is there anything like this in Judaism?
4) You also mention that one must wait several hours before a diary product can be consumed? Is there any specific reason for this?
5) What does kudos?
Oh Malik Malik Malik all this hatred its not good. The question was solely on kosher, not Israel, not Jerusalem or about non Muslims.
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
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