Imam training

salaam

interesting article in the times.

So how should scholars-to-be actually be trained?
What are Imams of 'back home' missing?
Do future Imams need to go on special courses or training?

discuss....

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Preacher training
Moderate imams are essential for moderate Islam[/b]

Our report that Muslims training to be imams at a college with links to Iran are using texts describing unbelievers as “filth” is deeply disturbing. Imams play a vital role in the spiritual education of young British Muslims. The example they set to thousands of young people attending mosques out of school hours is of utmost importance. What they teach, what attitudes they inculcate and how they prepare young Muslims for life in Britain is vital not only to the Muslim community in Britain, now numbering almost two million; it will largely determine whether attempts to reconcile Islam with life in Britain succeed or whether a new generation is alienated, embittered and religiously adrift, perceiving only conflict with the society and values around it.

Much attention has understandably been given to the role of imams since the London bombings. There is evidence that it was at their mosques and in meetings with radicalised preachers that the young Muslims who committed the atrocities last year developed their religious extremism. This is one reason why the Government has, belatedly, stopped issuing visas for imams from Pakistan and Bangladesh who speak no English and have no conception of life in the West. Some, in their profound ignorance, preach only the crudest extremism. It is also abundantly clear, from the trial of Abu Hamza al-Masri, that those wanting to spread a message of hatred focus first on gaining control of their local mosque as a platform to extend their malign influence over the community, especially its vulnerable young men.

There have been concerted efforts, mainly by Muslims themselves, to improve the training of imams. The problem, though, is one of funding. In Muslim countries, training traditionally begins early — at the age of 11 or 12, when boys are sent to Koranic schools for education in Islamic jurisprudence and those other areas essential to Muslim scholarship. Half a dozen such schools exist in Britain. But these do not offer a general education beyond GCSE, and cannot compare with seminaries taking in students at 18 or beyond. Local authorities do not offer grants for study in those few institutions, such as the Muslim College founded by the late Sheikh Zaki Badawi, training imams post-A level.

The way is thus open for institutions funded from abroad to establish colleges purporting to supply British Muslims with trained imams. But there is ample room for abuse. Any college in this sensitive area must be fully open to inspection. It is not enough simply to register an institution with the Charity Commission, which has neither the expertise nor the responsibility to vet the courses. These must be approved by the Department for Education, and their teaching materials must not contravene either laws on religious incitement or standards of decency accepted by British society. The funding must be transparent, so that if a country, such as Iran, provides the bulk of the money and inspiration, this should be known by applicants. No college should be able to produce apparent jihadists.

Muslims have a right to demand the highest standards of imams, just as Christians should be confident in the training of their clergy. It is not enough for the State just to denounce extremists; it should bolster appro- priate education for Muslim preachers, monitor religious colleges; and where they are malign, close them down.

imams need to go on training, like we have teacher training, pgc

having knowledge is one thing, but how to use it, implement it, communicate it, teach etc requires alot of skills which alot of imams lack

if endlish is poor then they should go to college and impriove it

also people skills, leadership skills, group work skills,
also how to deal with sensitive issues
need to specialise on drugs issue, alcohol abuse, anti socuial behaviour etc etc...

is the above disrespectful to scholars today?

 

"TheRevivalEditor" wrote:
imams need to go on training, like we have teacher training, pgc

having knowledge is one thing, but how to use it, implement it, communicate it, teach etc requires alot of skills which alot of imams lack

if endlish is poor then they should go to college and impriove it

also people skills, leadership skills, group work skills,
also how to deal with sensitive issues
need to specialise on drugs issue, alcohol abuse, anti socuial behaviour etc etc...

is the above disrespectful to scholars today?

That aint disrespectful coz at the end of the day what matters is what is good for the current and future Ummah. Many youths hardly know urdu at their level so to be able to communicate about Islam in English for scholars is a MUST. They also need to be in tune with the current issues youths face coz thats the only way they can help, if you have knowledge of the subject and can help provide solutions then you are gettin somewhere.

Scholars need to know what is affecting the ummah and how to tackle this.

"TheRevivalEditor" wrote:

is the above disrespectful to scholars today?

This is seen as being disrespectful to scholars for some reason...even though you've raised some valid points.

I know some people who've been trying to get a scholar to go back to college for some time now to brush up on his english...but he doesnt want to know.

There is no way youth will come back into the Mosques until Imams get more clued up with whats happening in society...

Too many Imams today are for the elderly only.

mosque commitee's cant even organise their car park

how can they sort out their imams?

here to even teach 6 years olds u need a three year degree and a one year PGCE

yet when it comes to Islam ppl aint fussed who is their imam

the ppl in my time dont have patience when it comes to incompetent imams

so hopefully this shudnt be a problem for much longer

"TheRevivalEditor" wrote:
imams need to go on training, like we have teacher training, pgc

having knowledge is one thing, but how to use it, implement it, communicate it, teach etc requires alot of skills which alot of imams lack

if endlish is poor then they should go to college and impriove it

also people skills, leadership skills, group work skills,
also how to deal with sensitive issues
need to specialise on drugs issue, alcohol abuse, anti socuial behaviour etc etc...

is the above disrespectful to scholars today?

i think this article is about 5 years too late.........the level of Imams has increased significantly over the last few years, and there are many british born ones emerging or english-speaking ones.

and yeah to tell all that to a scholar is disrespectful....too much imam-bashing these days

The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.

Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.

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"Sirus" wrote:

i think this article is about 5 years too late.........the level of Imams has increased significantly over the last few years, and there are many british born ones emerging or english-speaking ones.

and yeah to tell all that to a scholar is disrespectful....too much imam-bashing these days

Good point...

Imam bashing these days will either put you in the MPAC or the HT category. And both groups are famous for their extreme Imam bashing...

The amount of Imam Jokes i hear too....their rep has been and is being damaged

theres no appreciation and recognition for what work they have done, and like i said, theres lots nowadays that appeal to the youth....i know we have quite a handfull in oldham, rochdale and manchester

sum people jus like to sing the same tune all the time, sat at home and complaining

The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.

Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.

ɐɥɐɥ

IMAMS NEED TRAINING SO BAD!!!!!!

...AND THEY TELL CRAP JOKES :roll:

What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…