Bush wanted to Bomb AL-Jazeera in QATAR: War Memo

Published by Beast on 22 November, 2005 - 21:38

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[size=18]BUSH PLOT TO BOMB HIS ARAB ALLY[/size]
[b]Madness of war memo[/b]

PRESIDENT Bush planned to bomb Arab TV station al-Jazeera in friendly Qatar, a "Top Secret" No 10 memo reveals.

But he was talked out of it at a White House summit by Tony Blair, who said it would provoke a worldwide backlash.

A source said: "There's no doubt what Bush wanted, and no doubt Blair didn't want him to do it." Al-Jazeera is accused by the US of fuelling the Iraqi insurgency.

The attack would have led to a massacre of innocents on the territory of a key ally, enraged the Middle East and almost certainly have sparked bloody retaliation.

A source said last night: "The memo is explosive and hugely damaging to Bush.

"He made clear he wanted to bomb al-Jazeera in Qatar and elsewhere. Blair replied that would cause a big problem.

"There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do - and no doubt Blair didn't want him to do it."

A Government official suggested that the Bush threat had been "humorous, not serious".

But another source declared: "Bush was deadly serious, as was Blair. That much is absolutely clear from the language used by both men."

Yesterday former Labour Defence Minister Peter Kilfoyle challenged Downing Street to publish the five-page transcript of the two leaders' conversation. He said: "It's frightening to think that such a powerful man as Bush can propose such cavalier actions.

"I hope the Prime Minister insists this memo be published. It gives an insight into the mindset of those who were the architects of war."

Bush disclosed his plan to target al-Jazeera, a civilian station with a huge Mid-East following, at a White House face-to-face with Mr Blair on April 16 last year.

At the time, the US was launching an all-out assault on insurgents in the Iraqi town of Fallujah.

Al-Jazeera infuriated Washington and London by reporting from behind rebel lines and broadcasting pictures of dead soldiers, private contractors and Iraqi victims.

To have wiped them out would have been equivalent to bombing the BBC in London and the most spectacular foreign policy disaster since the Iraq War itself.

The No 10 memo now raises fresh doubts over US claims that previous attacks against al-Jazeera staff were military errors.

In 2001 the station's Kabul office was knocked out by two "smart" bombs. In 2003, al-Jazeera reporter Tareq Ayyoub was killed in a US missile strike on the station's Baghdad centre.

[url=http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16397937%26method=full%26siteid... [/url]

Submitted by Sirus on 22 November, 2005 - 10:52

i dont like you................BOMB!

lol....theres many things i dont like, but God hasnt told me to blow em up Smile

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Submitted by Dawud on 22 November, 2005 - 21:11

That reminds me of this:

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[size=18]BUSH, ROVE START PLANNING WHO TO BLAME, BOMB WHEN

9/11 OF GLOBAL WARMING ARRIVES[/size]

President And Key Advisor Not Sure Who To Kill To Seem Heroic When Crisis Hits

MAY 15, 2003 - WASHINGTON, DC For the first time in their political careers, the team of President George W. Bush and advisor Karl Rove are at a loss.

“When 9/11 hit, that was an easy one,” said Rove. “When the economy stayed bad after the Afghanistan campaign, that was easy, too. In fact, I never imagined there could be a situation that I wouldn’t know the perfect group to blame or bomb to shift attention and make things seem better.”

They were discussing global warming. Holed up, just the two men, in the Oval Office, they stewed over and over all possibilities. At one point, the President took the non-alcoholic beer bottle he was drinking from and almost smashed it to the ground.

“Easy there, Georgie,” reassured Rove, “you know we’ll come up with someone to kill that will make it all better.”

White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card concurred that global warming does present a unique challenge to the standard “Blame and Lie” tactics Rove and Bush like to use.

“Where the problems begin,” explained Card, “is that even if you shift people’s attention from global warming by demonizing and killing an entire people for it, they’ll still notice they’re hot as hell. And the horrible storms, droughts, floods and famines will be pretty hard to trick them into overlooking as well.”

Furthering the administration’s concern is that there are so many voices on record informing them that a disaster will occur if they don’t take specific steps now.

While usually, according to Rove, the dynamic Presidential duo can discount and misrepresent the words of those who gave the warnings, “In this case,” he said, “we have not just been warned by liberal interest groups or some Democrats, but by a commission made up of the top scientists from all over the world who studied the situation for ten years. For the campaign, it was easy to play slight-of-word and simply say those scientists were wrong, that their science wasn’t sound. People don’t know science, and so when we make that claim, it becomes simply our word vs. the other guys.”

“But,” he admitted in frustration, “when global warming reaches crisis proportions, a few word games won’t snow the people over, so to speak; it’ll be too damn hot to snow anything over. We’ll need to bomb something and bomb it good, something or someone we can blame for the disaster that will irreversibly change life on the planet as we know it. And right now, the only people we can come up with to bomb are, well, all of our buddies that make up the right-wing of the Republican Party.”

Andrew Card, though usually tight-lipped, allowed an agreeing glimpse at their plan. “The only option we’ll have is to turn and play victim, saying, ‘The right wing of the Republican Party forced us to let this disaster happen. We are the victims.’ Then Rove says we would bomb the Republican National Committee Headquarters, killing a few of our buddies in the process just to show we cleaned house, and then claim we were ‘born again,’ so to speak. You know, we were victims of forces too big for us, we repent and know we were wrong, and now we will fix it all up by killing those evil Republican thugs.”

Asked for comment, Republican National Committee Chairman Marc Racicot stood open-mouthed and paralyzed with fear. “You’ve got to be kidding me,” he stammered. “This is some sort of joke, right?”

Learning that it wasn’t, he immediately began drafting his resignation letter, as well as an open letter to the public repudiating his globe-scorching ways. “Better to get ahead of the curve, especially when you’re dealing with Rove.”

There's a ant and the grass hopper one somewhere as well, but thats un-bomb related.

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Submitted by You on 22 November, 2005 - 21:40

I think this nutter should be assassinated asap.

He is a clear and present danger.

Actually unlike when bliar used them words, I am actually telling the truth. He is a danger.

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Submitted by Beast on 22 November, 2005 - 21:54

"Admin" wrote:
I think this nutter should be assassinated asap.

According to a story I read in the Times many years ago, Bush is actually up for assassination or at least death in office.

Apparently there's some curse placed on US presidents by a Native American man-witch (is that the right word?).

An American president elected every 20 years has either died in office or been assassinated.

[b]Examples from the last century. [/b]
[list]McKinley elected 1900. Assassinated.
Harding elected 1920. Died in office.
Roosevelt elected 1940. Died in office
Kennedy elected 1960. Assassinated. [/list:u]
But Reagan (elected 1980) survived an assassination attempt. This may mean that the curse is wearing out.

I can only conclude therefore that when Bush (elected 2000) chocked on a pretzel, that was the curse on its last legs.

Submitted by You on 23 November, 2005 - 00:19

Did anyone watch Newsnight?

There was this guy, he pres of some American group of strategic studies... and he said 'well, we do not have any evidence... but if they did... nowt wrong with it!

And here were the interesting facts of Al-Jazeera HQ's being bombed in kabul, and then again 18 months later in Baghdad.

Shocking stuff really.

As the alazeera guy said, theere is an athical problem in killing civillians, and when you resort to murdering journalists, you have already lost the argument.

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Submitted by You on 23 November, 2005 - 00:38

Apparently my first above (bush should be assassinated...) is enough for life imprisonment.

A guy in saudi supposedly said such a thing. He confessed, was sent to US.

there he said he did not confess, but was tortured into his confession. Some doctors supported his claims, some disagreed about it actually being torture.

He has been found guilty. And he did not een do anything. Apart from saying he wanted to kill Bush.

Now this is a major blow against armchair critics.

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[size=18] Would-be Bush assassin could face life[/size]

Jury rejects claims that confession was product of Saudi torture

ALEXANDRIA, Virginia (CNN) -- A federal jury convicted a Virginia man Tuesday of joining the al Qaeda terrorist network and conspiring to assassinate President Bush. The man had claimed Saudi authorities tortured him into confessing.

Ahmed Abu Ali, a 24-year-old Arab-American reared in Falls Church, Virginia, faces a mandatory minimum sentence of 20 years, or a maximum penalty of life behind bars.

Abu Ali was born in Texas before his family moved to Falls Church. His Jordanian-born father works in the Saudi Embassy in Washington as a computer specialist.

The jury's nine women and three men took more than two days to reach their guilty verdicts on nine counts, including conspiracy to assassinate the president, conspiracy to destroy an aircraft and providing material support to terrorists. The trial lasted a month.

Abu Ali entered the courtroom smiling, but sat stoically when the verdict was reached.

"He doesn't show emotions very well," defense attorney Khurrum Wahid said, adding that his client intends to appeal the verdict. "He is disappointed that the jury didn't see the truth, and he wants us to continue to fight."

He also said Abu Ali hopes the verdict doesn't give the United States "the green light" to send "citizens to countries where they allow torture."

Prosecutors said the evidence presented in the case proved Abu Ali is a "dangerous terrorist who posed a grave threat to our national security."

"This conviction is the result of extraordinary law enforcement work and international cooperation. It serves as a clear warning to all that terrorists can and will be brought to the bar of justice," said Paul McNulty, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, in a written statement.

Authorities arrested Abu Ali in June 2003 in Medina, Saudi Arabia, where his attorney said he went for religious studies. Prosecutors said that Abu Ali confessed to having al Qaeda ties and discussing terror plots. They also showed the jury a videotaped confession Abu Ali gave while in Saudi custody.

"I came up with the idea on my own, but it did not get beyond the idea stage," Abu Ali said, allegedly of the Bush plot.

Abu Ali said during preliminary hearings that he was moved to Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, shortly after his arrest, and one of his interrogators told him, "Torture is allowed in national security cases." (Read about Abu Ali's claims of torture)

His lawyers, who denied Abu Ali was an al Qaeda member, requested that the video be tossed out. A judge, however, sided with the U.S. government after it argued that Abu Ali never complained of mistreatment when he was questioned by U.S. consular officials, who visited him while he was being detained by the Saudis for almost two years.

Also, he never raised the subject while flying back to Virginia with U.S. officials earlier this year, investigators said.

Abu Ali, who did not testify during the trial, said during pretrial hearings that he did not complain about his treatment because Saudi officials were present.

[url=http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/11/22/bush.plot/index.html]CNN[/url]

Soon all thinking will be a crime...

anyone seen equilibrium?

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Submitted by Dawud on 23 November, 2005 - 10:13

"Thread changing Admin" wrote:

anyone seen equilibrium?

No but its probably the best film I've ever seen, I reslly liked what I saw in reviews and trailers.

And Admin, he didn't say, Bush should die.

He came up with a plot and forgot to attach the phrase 'hypotheticall speaking' to it. So not quite the same. :?

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Submitted by Dawud on 23 November, 2005 - 10:15

"Dawud" wrote:
"Thread changing Admin" wrote:

anyone seen equilibrium?

No but its probably the best film I've never seen, I reslly liked what I saw in reviews and trailers.

And Admin, he didn't say, Bush should die.

He came up with a plot and forgot to attach the phrase 'hypotheticall speaking' to it. So not quite the same. :?

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Through cheating, stealing, and lying, one may get required results but finally one becomes

Submitted by Beast on 23 November, 2005 - 10:32

[size=18]UK paper gagged over Aljazeera memo[/size]

Britain's Daily Mirror newspaper has been ordered to cease publishing further details from an allegedly top secret memo revealing that US President George Bush wanted to bomb Aljazeera.

The gag order from Attorney-General Lord Goldsmith came nearly 24 hours after the paper published details of what it said was a transcript of talks between Bush and the British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

In those talks, which took place during the prime minister's April 2004 visit to Washington, Blair is said to have talked Bush out of launching "military action" on the television channel's headquarters in Doha, Qatar.

"No 10 did nothing to stop us publishing our front page exclusive yesterday (Tuesday)," the Daily Mirror said on Wednesday, referring to the British prime minister's office.

But the attorney-general warned that publication of any further details from the document would be a breach of the Official Secrets Act.

He threatened an immediate High Court injunction unless the newspaper confirmed it would not publish further details.

"We have essentially agreed to comply," the paper reported.

According to Britain's Guardian newspaper, it is the first time that the Blair government has threatened to prosecute a newspaper for publishing the contents of leaked government documents.

The White House has dismissed the Daily Mirror report, calling it "outlandish".

"[b]We are not going to dignify something so outlandish and inconceivable with a response[/b]," White House spokesman Scott Mc Clellan said on Tuesday.

[url=http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/171A7C64-F5C0-41EF-A613-EBA745ACE...

If it's covered by the Official Secrets Act then it isn't likely to be outlandish and inconceivable is it?

Unless Scott McCellan is saying that Bush's idea was 'outlandish and inconceivable'.

Submitted by You on 23 November, 2005 - 11:25

If it was a false report, it would not be an oficial secret...

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Submitted by *DUST* on 24 November, 2005 - 10:10

"Enver" wrote:
"Admin" wrote:
I think this nutter should be assassinated asap.

According to a story I read in the Times many years ago, Bush is actually up for assassination or at least death in office.

Apparently there's some curse placed on US presidents by a Native American man-witch (is that the right word?).

An American president elected every 20 years has either died in office or been assassinated.

[b]Examples from the last century. [/b]
[list]McKinley elected 1900. Assassinated.
Harding elected 1920. Died in office.
Roosevelt elected 1940. Died in office
Kennedy elected 1960. Assassinated. [/list:u]
But Reagan (elected 1980) survived an assassination attempt. This may mean that the curse is wearing out.

I can only conclude therefore that when Bush (elected 2000) chocked on a pretzel, that was the curse on its last legs.


lol. and 'man-witch'?!! wot the hells that, a transvestite magic-doer? Wink i think u mean 'warlock'!!
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Submitted by Beast on 24 November, 2005 - 10:16

Yeah, that's what I meant.

[size=6]Actually, that's a new word for me. [/size]

Submitted by *DUST* on 24 November, 2005 - 10:18

"Enver" wrote:
Yeah, that's what I meant.

[size=6]Actually, that's a new word for me. [/size]


lol. u need to read some fantasy...
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Submitted by Beast on 24 November, 2005 - 10:19

No thankyou.

I can't even handle normal fiction, let alone fantasy.

Submitted by *DUST* on 24 November, 2005 - 10:36

"Enver" wrote:
No thankyou.

I can't even handle normal fiction, let alone fantasy.


not good. u are on the brink of nerdiness in tht case! :shock: u must b a good student tho.
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Submitted by Beast on 24 November, 2005 - 10:38

I've got 6 non-fiction books that I'm reading. But I have to put them on hold so I can get my dissertaion done.

I think my lack of fiction has meant I don't have much of a vocab, but it's too late to start now.

Submitted by *DUST* on 24 November, 2005 - 10:48

"Enver" wrote:
I've got 6 non-fiction books that I'm reading. But I have to put them on hold so I can get my dissertaion done.

I think my lack of fiction has meant I don't have much of a vocab, but it's too late to start now.


its never too late to start anything good... Smile
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Submitted by Beast on 25 November, 2005 - 20:39

Bush talked about bombing Aljazeera in a meeting with TB on 16 April 2004.

This is what Rumsfeld was saying about Aljazeera the day before.

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REPORTER: If I could follow up, Monday General Abizaid chastised Al- Jazeera and Al-Arabiyah for their coverage of Fallujah and saying that hundreds of civilians were being killed. Is there an estimate on how many civilians have been killed in that fighting? And can you definitively say that hundreds of women and children and innocent civilians have not been killed?
SEC. RUMSFELD: [b]I can definitively say that what Al-Jazeera is doing is vicious, inaccurate and inexcusable.[/b]
REPORTER: Do you have a civilian casualty count?
SEC. RUMSFELD: Of course not, we're not in the city. But you know what our forces do; they don't go around killing hundreds of civilians. That's just outrageous nonsense! [b]It's disgraceful what that station is doing.[/b]
[url=http://www.dod.gov/transcripts/2004/tr20040415-secdef0622.html]US Department of Defence[/url]

Note: the attack on Fallujah involved the use of chamical weapons by the US.

Here is the press conference following the Bush Blair meeting:
rtsp://cspanrm.fplive.net/cspan/archive/iraq/iraq041604_bush.rm

Bear in mind that while saying all this stuff about 'liberty' and 'end of tyranny' etc, Bush was planning on bombing a media outlet and was using chemical weapons.

Submitted by Omrow on 26 November, 2005 - 14:35

Salam

I think American troops hated the TV Channel Al Jazeera because its reporters refused to go to bed with them.

The US Marines asked the journalists from other stations to be embedded with them.

You can forget impartiality; and even morals.

FOX ladies will bed anyone for a story.

Infact, these correspondent PAY the men for such a disgusting activity.

Now you know why the Arabs did not really get bombed.

They have so much dignity:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4467878.stm

Omrow

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