i heard on today's show, sum homo rang in 
anyone hear it? what happened?
Homosexuality and Islam
Published by Sirus on 11 October, 2005 - 00:31
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never heard it.
We require a status update from 'Ed!
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
last nights show was crazy
we were talking about: Is Islam out of date/ is it compatible with todays society?
this guy phoned in and said he's a muslim, and a gay, and whats wrong with it....was a shock but we still were able to get out point across..
and that call created massive interest and rest of the show was packed with calls and texts....
anyone actually hear it?
next shows now on thurs, fri, sat in manch and rochdale...hopefully by then they should be on line aswell.
In the shows we do also highlight the revival magazine and website alot.
Did you tell him he is not a muslim?
Coz Quran calls homosexuality an abomination. If he says nowt wrong, one of them is wrong. He has just rejected the qur'an, and thus islam.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
i think Mr ED has more sense then that :roll:
sinning doesnt mean u leave islam
However declaring something that is haraam as not haraam does make you leave Islam.
According to Ed that guy said nowt wrong with it. But Quran calls it an abomination. The guy rejected the qur'an.
Simple as.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
you cant be batty and muslim
everything battymen believe in goes against the teachings of Islam
Adam and Eve in the Quran and Bible, not Adam and Steve!!!
its impossible to be both
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
did the guy use the word haraam?
did u even listen to him?
maybe he's ignorant
its unlike u to quickly exit people from Islam
says who? :roll:
if u can be a person who lies, steals, does zina, miss prayer's etc etc etc and be a Muslim
why cant u be batty and be a Muslim?
coz they jus dont go together!!!
everything queer people believe in goes against Islam
on what basis, besides a name, is a batty man a muslim?
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
Its a simple thing.
He said nowt wrong with it.
That means either he is right or the Qur'an is right. I put my lot in with the Qur'an.
committing a haraam act does not make you a kaafir. It makes yu a sinner.
But calling a haraam act not haraam does make you a kaafir.
I do not use such things lightly. However any sect will tell you rejecting the qur'an is kufr.
If that guy does not know (the chances being he does...), then he should have been informed on air, and explained the issue.
After consulting a scholar he would have the option of rejoining the fold of Islam.
Hayder: You have the right solution, but the wrong path to it there!
The reason they are not muslim is because they reject parts of the Qur'an.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
like I said DID he use them words and say that?
until we know-we cant jumpthe gun
and hayduh sinners can still be muslims
There is a big difference between sayin "whats wrong with it" (which is what ed said in his post) and sayin "there is nothing wrong with it"
If he was openly to declare when told that it is forbidden in haram that would mean he was goin against the Quran and like lilsis said he could have been ignorant and not know islam's stance on homsexuality ( i aint defending the guy)
Its wrong but if that guy didnt know about it then he should have been educated not told he was automaticaly out of islam.
sinners can be.......but they dont reject the beliefs, they may go against it
Gay people are rejecting everything mother nature has said and everything in Islam
theyre a cult, sect, religion, disease, problem!
burn em all :evil:
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
SOME gay people may reject the fact that its haraam
just how SOME people may eat haraam and believe that saying "bismillah" in the beg makes it OK
just how SOME people think its OK to date and do evrything under the sun as long as "they have the intention to marry"
u get all types of sinners who reject the truth-not only gay people
but not ALL gay people think that what they're doing is all good
im sorry, im gona be a caveman on this issue
but gay people stink!!!
and how anyone can defend them is unebelievable to me
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
who the hell is defending them?
I just dont hate them any more then i hate them people who commit zina
nor do i feel its right to say that they're not muslims-or that they "stink" :roll:
they're a danger to any society
if they cant be converted back to straightness
they should be cast aside
a nation of one of the prophets was sent a plague coz they was all bent, and comitting homo acts BIG tym
theyre more of a threat than the person who commits zina or lies, albeit theyre both wrong, what they say and do effects more than themselves
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
its up to God to decide "which sin is worst"
both adultery and homosexuality is punishble by death in the Shariah
in my town its zina/adultery which is turning the town upside down and breaking up families at the moment
so i see adulterers as a danger to society
too bad they aint being "cast aside" :roll:
Sorry to butt in but....
People who commit zina and lie also effect others and not just themselves.
{Goes back to eating the popcorn}
homo's are to a much wider extent
look at society today...i rest my case
im still in shock that spongebob square pants is GAY!!! :shock:
aye Zina is terrible, probably as bad.
but a person who goes against nature is diffrent from one who loves nature a lil tooooo much lol
neither can be defended
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
yeh look at society around u and see how common it is :roll:
I'm sure EVERY one of us personally knows/heard of someone who commits zina/adultery
same cant be said for homo's-I never came across one
the only thing i know about them is from a lamo cartoon :roll:
oh noooooo
battyness is on the rise bigtime
the moment its allowed here legally in full effect with full rights, were doomed
our kids are doomed
its gona spread quicker than Aids in a gay bar!!
Zina is very bad, i cant disagree with it more.......but homosexuality is that lil bit worse
they both defy the teachings of Islam
but one defies nature as well
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
thats ur opinion
like i said-both adultery and homosexulaity are punishble by death
so I cant be in a postion to state which sin is that "lil bit worse"
aye my opinion indeed
but a homo or a zina-er cant be defended
only to Allah swt they can repent with sincerity
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
never said that they should be
but u need to understand that just cos someone dont agree with cussing/abusing them or calling them Kafir
this does not mean that such a person likes to "defend" their actions
did i say theyre not muslims?
i dunno, i may have
i still cant see how the two can combine, but as i have to revise for my exam...i'll leave it at .....
they aint human!!!
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
if u think that alcoholics can be muslims
guys who dont pray can be muslims
people who do zina can be muslims
people who rob banks/murder people can be muslims
then why cant batty people be muslims?
and if they aint human what are they? :roll:
homos defy nature
they dont fit into any religion
or into any society with morals and standards
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
I talked to Ed. The guy said nowt wrong with it. Ed said yes there is. Guy said who is he to judge. Ed said he not judging, the Qur'an is. Guy said nowt wrong with it. Kaff said Qur'an said it is wrong, so his position is kufr. He said who is 'Ed to judge. 'Ed said not him judging, but Qur'an. Guy said he has not read qur'an, but nowt wrong with it... Ed said qur'an says its wrong...
Saying homosexuality is not haraam is kufr.
Homosexuality is worse that zina. It is worse than fornication and adultery. It is declared an abomination.
An alcoholic knows it is wrong. An adulteror know it is wrong. A homo says nothing is wrong with it. That is where it becomes kufr.
All homo's claim nowt wrong with it. It the slogan of the gay rghts groups.
I am surrised we do not all see it like this, as IMO there is not much to discuss. It is wrong. the homo is not a muslim. I see no debate in this subject. The homo has rejected the qur'an.
The act is unnatural. It is an abomination.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
can Ed or anyone else who actually heard the show plz clear this up for us:
woz the homo guy ignorant of what the Quran says about homosexuality, or did he reject it?
is there a 'listen again' option on the radio website?
edit: thanx for clarifying tht^^ admin. i agree with wot u sed up there - if the guy knew what he was doing was islamically wrong, i doubt he would've come onto the radio to tell the world. :?
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