Music

Published by Nasheedgirl on 29 October, 2010 - 22:22

I heard that there are two opinions regarding music, some say it is halal and some say it is haraam. Confused.com?! Please help!

Submitted by Bijou on 30 October, 2010 - 10:34

As far as I know certain music is not haram .
Music which is about happiness, love and some which praise Allah and Prophet Muhammad are not haram.

However music by artists such as hip hop or rock that talk about sex, drugs, dirty dancing etc are haram (e.g Eminem, Ice Cube, Britney Spears etc etc...)

Sheikh Tahir Ul Qadir has a video of this as does Sheikh Yaqcoubi which basically mention my above point.
Hope that helps! Smile

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Your own soul is nourished when you are kind; it is destroyed when you are cruel.

Submitted by Nasheedgirl on 30 October, 2010 - 14:04

Jazakillahu-khairan for the help.
I will insha'Allah check those out...but I tend to think it's quite a controversial issue! Smile

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"That's the thing about pain. It demands to be felt" - Augustus Waters

Submitted by You on 30 October, 2010 - 16:01

Bijou wrote:
However music by artists such as hip hop or rock that talk about sex, drugs, dirty dancing etc are haram (e.g Eminem, Ice Cube, Britney Spears etc etc...)

There is a middle between the two "extremes" too - music that may not be spiritual, but at the same time is not encouraging or promoting haraam.

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by Bijou on 30 October, 2010 - 18:00

You wrote:
Bijou wrote:
However music by artists such as hip hop or rock that talk about sex, drugs, dirty dancing etc are haram (e.g Eminem, Ice Cube, Britney Spears etc etc...)

There is a middle between the two "extremes" too - music that may not be spiritual, but at the same time is not encouraging or promoting haraam.

Yes which is why I mentioned music about love and happiness.For example, you get them shaadi songs about mehndi and stuff like that ...(just an example, I know its a lame one)

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Your own soul is nourished when you are kind; it is destroyed when you are cruel.

Submitted by You on 30 October, 2010 - 18:01

oh, I thought you meant love and happiness of God... my bad.

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by Nasheedgirl on 30 October, 2010 - 21:10

I know that alot of wedding nasheeds and stuff have music in them but that doesn't
necessarily make them halal to listen just becuase they are about love and happiness, does it? :doubt:

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"That's the thing about pain. It demands to be felt" - Augustus Waters

Submitted by You on 30 October, 2010 - 21:47

the general rule is that for something to be haraam, it has to be made haraam.

So, if there is nothing in there making it haraam, its not haraam.

Now that does not mean that is becomes something you must do, but its simply not haraam/banned without there being some reason/evidence for it.

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by Nasheedgirl on 30 October, 2010 - 22:30

But there is...the music... and that makes it haraam, right?

Besides, different scholars regard different things as halaal and haraam, so whos' opinion do you take?

Now that does not mean that is becomes something you must do, but its simply not haraam/banned without there being some reason/evidence for it.

If something is not haraam, then what's the harm in doing it (comitting the action)?

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"That's the thing about pain. It demands to be felt" - Augustus Waters

Submitted by You on 30 October, 2010 - 22:35

Nasheedgirl wrote:
But there is...the music... and that makes it haraam, right?

If it was haraam, it would remain haraam even if it promoted good. That would not dilute its haraam attributes.

So if someone considers music to be haraam from the outset, then the person would have to consider even nasheeds as haraam.

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by Nasheedgirl on 30 October, 2010 - 22:51

If it was haraam, it would remain haraam even if it promoted good. That would not dilute its haraam attributes.

Yh, I agree on you with that but...

So if someone considers music to be haraam from the outset, then the person would have to consider even nasheeds as haraam.

Not all nasheeds have music in them which means they are not all haraam.
Anyway, I guess everyone has to decide for themselves between what's right and wrong.
Musc nasheeds can be addicting however... :oops:

May Allah swt give us all hidayah, and grant us all the highest ranks of Jannah. Ameen.

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"That's the thing about pain. It demands to be felt" - Augustus Waters

Submitted by You on 30 October, 2010 - 22:53

Here is one side of the argument:

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by Isha Al-Maghribi on 31 October, 2010 - 15:20

You wrote:
Nasheedgirl wrote:
But there is...the music... and that makes it haraam, right?

If it was haraam, it would remain haraam even if it promoted good. That would not dilute its haraam attributes.

So if someone considers music to be haraam from the outset, then the person would have to consider even nasheeds as haraam.

And some people do.
Which is why people dislike Sami Yusaf so much.
(Though, I must say, he sounds waaaaaaaaaaaay better without music. )Alhamthul'Ilah.Such a melodious vioce!

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Love is a serious mental disease.

Submitted by Isha Al-Maghribi on 31 October, 2010 - 15:24

Nasheedgirl wrote:
I heard that there are two opinions regarding music, some say it is halal and some say it is haraam. Confused.com?! Please help!

Well, if you're like me, then all music is banned and you don't listen to anything like that (besides Sami Yusuf and Maher Zain; I think I've mentioned this before on a different thread..).
But, then Nabi Daw'ud wa/selam aley was given a flute.
And, at the end of the world, the trumpet shall be blown...

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Love is a serious mental disease.

Submitted by Nasheedgirl on 31 October, 2010 - 16:56

Yh,masha'Allah he has a brilliant voice....(including maher zain :P)
But sometimes I guess they kinda get carried away with the music!

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"That's the thing about pain. It demands to be felt" - Augustus Waters

Submitted by Nasheedgirl on 31 October, 2010 - 16:57

But, then Nabi Daw'ud wa/selam aley was given a flute.

Is that in a hadith or something?

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"That's the thing about pain. It demands to be felt" - Augustus Waters

Submitted by You on 31 October, 2010 - 16:59

Nasheedgirl wrote:
But sometimes I guess they kinda get carried away with the music!

Since they don't consider it wrong to use, I doubt they consider it getting carried away.

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by Isha Al-Maghribi on 31 October, 2010 - 18:03

Nasheedgirl wrote:
Yh,masha'Allah he has a brilliant voice....(including maher zain :P)
But sometimes I guess they kinda get carried away with the music!

Yeah, I agree.
And, sometimes the intros take an age.

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Love is a serious mental disease.

Submitted by Isha Al-Maghribi on 31 October, 2010 - 18:05

Nasheedgirl wrote:

But, then Nabi Daw'ud wa/selam aley was given a flute.

Is that in a hadith or something?

I'm not sure.
But, it was written in the Psalms, which is accurate, according to Qur'an al-Kareem.

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Love is a serious mental disease.

Submitted by TPOS on 31 October, 2010 - 18:09

Isha Al-Maghribi wrote:
Nasheedgirl wrote:

But, then Nabi Daw'ud wa/selam aley was given a flute.

Is that in a hadith or something?

I'm not sure.
But, it was written in the Psalms, which is accurate, according to Qur'an al-Kareem.


The psalms in its original version
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"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi

Submitted by LookingToSee on 31 October, 2010 - 18:22

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:
Isha Al-Maghribi wrote:
Nasheedgirl wrote:

But, then Nabi Daw'ud wa/selam aley was given a flute.

Is that in a hadith or something?

I'm not sure.
But, it was written in the Psalms, which is accurate, according to Qur'an al-Kareem.


The psalms in its original version

we've gone over this already. yeah..the REAL psalms. not the one we have today..

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Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?

Submitted by TPOS on 31 October, 2010 - 18:29

Lilly wrote:
ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:
Isha Al-Maghribi wrote:
Nasheedgirl wrote:

But, then Nabi Daw'ud wa/selam aley was given a flute.

Is that in a hadith or something?

I'm not sure.
But, it was written in the Psalms, which is accurate, according to Qur'an al-Kareem.


The psalms in its original version

we've gone over this already. yeah..the REAL psalms. not the one we have today..


so you wasted some energy, writing out, that you agree with me Blum 3 thanks Smile
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"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi

Submitted by Nasheedgirl on 31 October, 2010 - 19:25

You wrote:
Nasheedgirl wrote:
But sometimes I guess they kinda get carried away with the music!

Since they don't consider it wrong to use, I doubt they consider it getting carried away.

Hmm, I guess that goes for some of them, but others such as Dawud wharnsby ali knew it was wrong, and thats why intially he started off without music and duff only...but then.. he got carried away and now he's 'rockin' away! Blum 3

It's everyones own reponsibility to find out what's right and wrong after all....
Allah guide us all. Ameen.

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"That's the thing about pain. It demands to be felt" - Augustus Waters

Submitted by Nasheedgirl on 31 October, 2010 - 19:27

The psalms in its original version

Yup!

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"That's the thing about pain. It demands to be felt" - Augustus Waters

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