wat came first?

salaamz guys, plz tell me wat came first the hen or the egg?

the hen obviously

Allah (SWT) created 2 pairs of every type of animal...

and he created 2 chickens....

Alllah (SWT) couldn't have created a pair of eggs ... :roll:

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why couldn't he?

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

ALZ_007 wrote:
the hen obviously

Allah (SWT) created 2 pairs of every type of animal...

and he created 2 chickens....

My argument exactly!

ALZ_007 wrote:

Alllah (SWT) couldn't have created a pair of eggs ... :roll:

well not couldnt but didnt, i dont think

"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi

yah well thats what i really meant,

he simply decided not to as they couldn't have possibly have survived on their own...

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Or a turkey had an egg that was a little off..

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

:roll:

Don't just do something! Stand there.

God did not come from anywhere. He was always there.
Then first came Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and Imam Ali. They are God's first creation.
But people are more concerned about chickens.

Ayatollah rightly named America as "Great Satan".

Someone should hit you with a clue stick.

Here's a hint: lets leave the shia/sunni issues to such topics where they are relevant. All other such posts will be deleted.

The question is not about God, the prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam (Peace and Blessings be upon him) or Imam Ali (ra). It is about the chicken and the egg.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

What came first, chicken or the egg?

I think God made the loads of eggs.
One type hatched into hens. The other type hatched into their husbands.
They all got married to each other. It was probably mutah. They had loads of babies.
Today Alhmadolilah we have loads of nice dishes to eat.

Ayatollah rightly named America as "Great Satan".

are you trying to be funny?

malik wrote:
God did not come from anywhere. He was always there.
Then first came Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and Imam Ali. They are God's first creation.
But people are more concerned about chickens.

And evidence for that is...Adam pbuh was first human creation....?

malik wrote:
What came first, chicken or the egg?

I think God made the loads of eggs.
One type hatched into hens. The other type hatched into their husbands.
They all got married to each other. It was probably mutah. They had loads of babies.
Today Alhmadolilah we have loads of nice dishes to eat.

Lol

exactly the prophet Adam pbuh was the first HUMAN creation..

I think wat Malik means is that the first creation of a soul...

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St786 wrote:
And evidence for that is...Adam pbuh was first human creation....?

I am not too sure, but I think there is a mention of a "covenant" made between God and all souls that we are being held to, so all humans/people existed before birth.

(Is it kind of unfair, since we cannot remember signing the dotted line?)

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

i think he meant nabi Adam alayhisalaam being the first human in physical form.

ALZ_007 wrote:
exactly the prophet Adam pbuh was the first HUMAN creation..

I think wat Malik means is that the first creation of a soul...

source for first creation of soul?

This conversation is ridiculous!!

Even if you guys somehow magically came up with the answers to the questions you're asking, what effect would it have on your lives? How would it make you be a better person? What does the Qur'an say about people talking about things of which they have no knowledge?

Don't just do something! Stand there.

Ya'qub wrote:
This conversation is ridiculous!!

Even if you guys somehow magically came up with the answers to the questions you're asking, what effect would it have on your lives? How would it make you be a better person? What does the Qur'an say about people talking about things of which they have no knowledge?

True ... i can forget that sometimes. thnx

Ya'qub wrote:
This conversation is ridiculous!!

Even if you guys somehow magically came up with the answers to the questions you're asking, what effect would it have on your lives? How would it make you be a better person? What does the Qur'an say about people talking about things of which they have no knowledge?

I think this is a bit odd too :/ It seems moot to me.

But, neither do you make sense to me. You said that the conversation was ridiculous and it wasn't worth asking these questions and then that you shouldn't talk about things of which you have no knowledge.

Unless you go about acquiring it, you'll never have knowledge. But if you're going to have a go at people for not having knowledge, Surely you shouldn't also have a go at them for asking questions? And vice versa.

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I doubt this thread was intended as a serious theological debate.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

MakeMeRawr_6TeenF wrote:

Unless you go about acquiring it, you'll never have knowledge. But if you're going to have a go at people for not having knowledge, Surely you shouldn't also have a go at them for asking questions? And vice versa.

I didn't see many questions being asked, more ppl saying 'this is how it is.... OMG didn't you know that?!?!?!'

which is just pants

Don't just do something! Stand there.

well ya'qub people are trying to be clever and are too busy answering the question to ask any of there own questions...
any way this thread was supposed to be there to answer the question

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ALZ_007 wrote:
well ya'qub people are trying to be clever and are too busy answering the question to ask any of there own questions...
any way this thread was supposed to be there to answer the question

'clever'. I see.

Don't just do something! Stand there.

'clever'. I see.

:?:

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The question survives because of the inadequacy of the word "chicken" or "hen" to describe its egg-laying antecedents. Still something self-replicating existed first, before it started laying its eggs, although these proto-birds were laying eggs long before they evolved to look especially like hens. If we come into the fossils (and maybe we have, I don't know) and the jargon for all the proto-hens and proto-eggs we then have a definitive answer, but until then it just depends how you look at it.

*Edit: NB The question can be applied to the DNA and the cells, and to any parts of any system, and however hard the question is to answer, they are true questions that have answers! But as Yaq'ub points out, the answers cannot be reached by philosophy alone.

  • It can never be satisfied, the mind, never. -- Wallace Stevens

Joie de Vivre wrote:
The question survives because of the inadequacy of the word "chicken" or "hen" to describe its egg-laying antecedents. Still something self-replicating existed first, before it started laying its eggs, although these proto-birds were laying eggs long before they evolved to look especially like hens. If we come into the fossils (and maybe we have, I don't know) and the jargon for all the proto-hens and proto-eggs we then have a definitive answer, but until then it just depends how you look at it.

:roll:

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can this in any way be taken as a serious debate?

I had always considered it a joke question.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

You wrote:
can this in any way be taken as a serious debate?

I had always considered it a joke question.

Why does it have to be either a serious debate or a joke? :roll:

#Before you look at the thorns of the rose , look at it's beauty. Before you complain about the heat of the sun , enjoy it's light. Before you complain about the blackness of the night, think of it's peace and quiet... #

are you calling me extreme?

(if everyone is joking in here, my humour metre is faulty. I cannot tell.)

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You wrote:
are you calling me extra?

Yes.

And if i am? Blum 3

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