Al-Qaeda founder launches fierce attack on Osama bin Laden

Sayyid Imam al-Sharif, who goes by the nom de guerre Dr Fadl, helped bin Laden create al-Qaeda and then led an Islamist insurgency in Egypt in the 1990s.

But in a book written from inside an Egyptian prison, he has launched a frontal attack on al-Qaeda's ideology and the personal failings of bin Laden and particularly his Egyptian deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri.

Twenty years ago, Dr Fadl became al-Qaeda's intellectual figurehead with a crucial book setting out the rationale for global jihad against the West.

Today, however, he believes the murder of innocent people is both contrary to Islam and a strategic error. "Every drop of blood that was shed or is being shed in Afghanistan and Iraq is the responsibility of bin Laden and Zawahiri and their followers," writes Dr Fadl.

The terrorist attacks on September 11 were both immoral and counterproductive, he writes. "Ramming America has become the shortest road to fame and leadership among the Arabs and Muslims. But what good is it if you destroy one of your enemy's buildings, and he destroys one of your countries? What good is it if you kill one of his people, and he kills a thousand of yours?" asks Dr Fadl. "That, in short, is my evaluation of 9/11."

He is equally unsparing about Muslims who move to the West and then take up terrorism. "If they gave you permission to enter their homes and live with them, and if they gave you security for yourself and your money, and if they gave you the opportunity to work or study, or they granted you political asylum," writes Dr Fadl, then it is "not honourable" to "betray them, through killing and destruction"...

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Question is how much of this is due to own opinion and how much due to torture.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

This is actually old news. I remember Frank Gardener did something on this on Radio 4 a few months ago.

Anyway, the last para of that story is interesting:

Terrorist movements across the world have a history of alienating their popular support by waging campaigns of indiscriminate murder. This process of disintegration often begins with a senior leader publicly denouncing his old colleagues. Dr Fadl's missives may show that al-Qaeda has entered this vital stage.

This is the beginning of the end... unless Cheney and co have other ideas.

Cheney is gone, he was last seen taken to hospital, as far as I know.

“Before death takes away what you are given, give away whatever there is to give.”

Mawlana Jalal ud Din Rumi

But he's still operating from beyong the shadows.

We probably won't be totaly rid of him until he kicks the bucket.

I have heard that this guy and the OBL crew fell out a long long time ago - like around 1992 or something when this guy was against the goals laid out by the OBL lot.

So this may be no change to the status quo at all.

As for life after OBL - there will be some new figurehead. Or the same one as a martyr.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

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As for life after OBL - there will be some new figurehead. Or the same one as a martyr.

I was talking about Cheney. Not OBL.

But I can see why the two may be confused.

Yeah, same thing.

Life after Cheney... hmm... there will be some new people out there similar to the current crop of neo cons.

But then again, they would not be as such - the Obama administration could cause many problems for Pakistan, Afghanistan and the like no matter how good their intentions are.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.