Majority of Pakistanis want Shariah Law

[color=orange][size=18][b]GALLUP REPORT- Majority of Pakistanis want Shariah Law[/b][/size][/color]

Once again, the nation of Pakistan thrusts itself onto the World scene as Political commentators debate and discuss its future. These Commentators are not just restricted to those from Pakistan but extend internationally pursuing the unfolding events over the Upcoming Elections Issue with a detailed eye.

In the Video report, the analysts deal with the latest news that over 51% of Pakistanis want Shariah Law as the only Source, 24% said that it should be one of the Sources and a meagre 6% stated it should not be a source.

The upcoming Elections in Pakistan are being watched and supervised by external powers to make sure their conjured up formula for a Pakistan which is favourable to Western Interests in the region will be fulfilled. These Elections should also be at the height of importance for the Muslims of Pakistan to reject the formation of a government which will act on behalf of foreign powers rather than securing the intrests of Muslims.

Bukhari, Muslim, Abu Daud and Tirmidhi reported on the authority of 'Abdullah ibn 'Umar that the Messenger of Allah Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam (Peace and Blessings be upon him) said, [b]"Each one of you is a guardian and you are all responsible about your guardianship, the Imam is a guardian of the people and he is responsible for his guardianship of the people."[/b]

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Majority of Pakistan cant handle Shariah Law.

Bcoz as soon as it does they're gonna be the first ones to suffer.

A country that has been corrupted at all levels will never pass Shariah Law nor enforce it.

Back in BLACK

Corruption isn't the word.

How about we rename it to KAFIRISTAN!

He who sacrifices his conscience to ambition, burns a picture to obtain the ashes!

I would disagree with the notion that Pakistanis do not want shariah law. Firstly, the poll in the youtube video is evidence of this, secondly worldpublicopinion.org, an independant research organisation came out with similar results this year as well as Marlyland university, USA who conducted research on shariah law in 4 countries including Pakistan came out with the same conclusion that over 70% of muslims internationally favour this.

Secondly, shariah is equated to justice, peace, harmony, rule of law, elected leadership through the people, independant Judiciary, wealth distribution, Technological advancement, free education, and protection of all races, beliefs, creeds and minoroties. Look to the chaos in the Muslim world- can you see any semblance of these? Surely, it is the absence of Shariah- Allahs rules- which has allowed such matters to worsen in our countries. Musharraf, Mubarak, Ghadaffi- who do they represent??

Thirdly, shariah is not just an option- it is mandatory and is central to our belief that islam is a way of life revealed to be lived by and applied in a society to meet our spiritual, economic, social and political needs. Islamic evidences gretly detail the obligation for us to maintain this and to work towards it if it is not present in mulsim countries.

Talk is cheap.

I never said they didnt want it... I said they couldnt handle it. No one more than me would be happy if true Shariah Law was enacted in Pakistan. However you need to be reminded of how harsh reality is.

Every level of Pakistan officials have been corrupted, from the military to politicians to judges. Bribery is common practice. Everyone has their own agenda. Its all me me me... whereas Islam focuses NOT on oneself but on others. People are only interested in lining their own pockets no matter who gets stepped on in the process.

Morally Pakistan is corrupt. Although alcohol is supposedly illegal there pure places that sell it. Prostitution takes places in every major city. The police are bribed into doing the bidding of anyone who has the cash. And ofcourse who goes to such places? Mostly the rich and the powerful. It is these people who are in control of Pakistan... and you think they're gonna allow Shariah Law to come into force?

You need to open your eyes and recognise the truth.

Back in BLACK

At the time of the prophet whilst he was in Madina there were sinners, hypocrites, apostates, people commiting fornication and adultery, however the state law of islam was encated upon such people by the prophet of Islam himself. the son of umar al-farooq comitted fornication and he was lashed publicly (the son of the head of the state)

Today in pakistan we need not have a pessimistic attitude about its future and claim that just because Haraam actions are prevalent that change cannot happen. Haraam actions will continue to happen whether there is sharaiah law or not. The key arguement is that the application of ahkam shariah is Obligation and the reality needs to be changed to employ this and not vice versa.

Hence talk is not cheap- try working for the restoration of Islam in state and society for the muslim world and you will see great signs of imminent change.

and dont worry.............the ruling elite in pakistan will be History- can you not see Musharrafs desperation- re-arranging army generals for fear of coups!! the lawyers movemnet in pakistan demanding independant judiciary and removalof Musharraf and american interferance!!

Open yourselves to more thorough reading- best way to see things ina different light.

When you say let's run a country on the Shariah, well what exactly do you mean by that? Let me tell you, that Saudi and Iran CLAIM to run on Shariah and look how corrupt they are. I think the Shariah is a personal law which an individual has to interpret, well some of it is, and you can't enforce it with force. Look at what happens to a child if you force religion on them. They'll reject it, eventually! Shariah has to be encouraged.
OK, mate, put it this way secualr (doesn't mean anti-religious) law is difficult to change, if a conventional Shariah interpretation is weak, people will scream: "blasphmey!"
It will be abused, just like it has been in Iran and Saudi.
Maybe we can take SOME elements of the Shariah and make it common law but not all of it. Sorry mate, but for me 51% ain't good enough.

Chin up, mate! Life's too short.

First and foremost there is no country or model in the world today to compare shariah Rule to- no state in the world has shariah as their basis.

Secondly, your understanding of Shariah has already been tarnished by Western spectacles as one of being barbaric, totalitarian and oppressive.

Thirdly, Shariah is law (qanoon) not our personal preferance of what we deem to be appropriate or non-appropriate. Hence we are not in a position to state what laws we should take and what should be suspended.

Fourthly, voter turn out in Britain in the last general election was 23% of the population- does that make the Labour government illegitimate in any way?

Fifthly, Islam CANNOT be completely followed wothout a state and government applying it. For example: wealth ditribution through the collection of taxes (zakat, land tax, jizya)- establishing independant courts and a strong judiciary, abolishing beaurocracy and corruption through heavy fines and sentances based on evidence presented in courts- establishing the Prayers- protection of minorities as "first class" citizens- the availibilty of free education til high school level- access to free health care for all- Not selling state property to private foreign enterprises (gas, water, electricity, minerals, oil) and many other rules to do with foreign policy, economics and the Political structure. ALL these issues are greatly deliberated upon in many Islamic books.

51% for shariah law as the ONLY legislation, coupled with 24% who said that it should be one of the Sources- for any statistician out there- thats a heck load of people in a country with 170 million people desiring Political change based on Islam.

"majedbhai" wrote:
First and foremost there is no country or model in the world today to compare shariah Rule to- no state in the world has shariah as their basis.

Secondly, your understanding of Shariah has already been tarnished by Western spectacles as one of being barbaric, totalitarian and oppressive.

Thirdly, Shariah is law (qanoon) not our personal preferance of what we deem to be appropriate or non-appropriate. Hence we are not in a position to state what laws we should take and what should be suspended.

Fourthly, voter turn out in Britain in the last general election was 23% of the population- does that make the Labour government illegitimate in any way?

Fifthly, Islam CANNOT be completely followed wothout a state and government applying it. For example: wealth ditribution through the collection of taxes (zakat, land tax, jizya)- establishing independant courts and a strong judiciary, abolishing beaurocracy and corruption through heavy fines and sentances based on evidence presented in courts- establishing the Prayers- protection of minorities as "first class" citizens- the availibilty of free education til high school level- access to free health care for all- Not selling state property to private foreign enterprises (gas, water, electricity, minerals, oil) and many other rules to do with foreign policy, economics and the Political structure. ALL these issues are greatly deliberated upon in many Islamic books.

51% for shariah law as the ONLY legislation, coupled with 24% who said that it should be one of the Sources- for any statistician out there- thats a heck load of people in a country with 170 million people desiring Political change based on Islam.

No mate, I don't think that Shariah is a barbaric law. It HAS been abused in Saudi, whether you like it or not. That's the "Shariah" I have a problem with. What gives us the right to enforce religion on others? The Quran clearly states: "Let there be no compulsion in religion." Doesn't take Einstein to work that one out.
Didn't I say that we can apply some of the Shariah as common law( I don't mean precedent, by the way)? We can and SHOULD do the tax, zakat and jizyah and nationalisation bits, but that isn't the whole of Shariah. There are parts of the Shariah that we have to encourage and can't enforce on others. I'm sorry. I'm not against having Shariah as one of the source, but as the only one, I don't think so.
We can base law on Islamic principles but can't run a country on pure Shariah, because it WILL be abused.

Chin up, mate! Life's too short.

"Courage" wrote:
"majedbhai" wrote:
First and foremost there is no country or model in the world today to compare shariah Rule to- no state in the world has shariah as their basis.

Secondly, your understanding of Shariah has already been tarnished by Western spectacles as one of being barbaric, totalitarian and oppressive.

Thirdly, Shariah is law (qanoon) not our personal preferance of what we deem to be appropriate or non-appropriate. Hence we are not in a position to state what laws we should take and what should be suspended.

Fourthly, voter turn out in Britain in the last general election was 23% of the population- does that make the Labour government illegitimate in any way?

Fifthly, Islam CANNOT be completely followed wothout a state and government applying it. For example: wealth ditribution through the collection of taxes (zakat, land tax, jizya)- establishing independant courts and a strong judiciary, abolishing beaurocracy and corruption through heavy fines and sentances based on evidence presented in courts- establishing the Prayers- protection of minorities as "first class" citizens- the availibilty of free education til high school level- access to free health care for all- Not selling state property to private foreign enterprises (gas, water, electricity, minerals, oil) and many other rules to do with foreign policy, economics and the Political structure. ALL these issues are greatly deliberated upon in many Islamic books.

51% for shariah law as the ONLY legislation, coupled with 24% who said that it should be one of the Sources- for any statistician out there- thats a heck load of people in a country with 170 million people desiring Political change based on Islam.

No mate, I don't think that Shariah is a barbaric law. It HAS been abused in Saudi, whether you like it or not. That's the "Shariah" I have a problem with. What gives us the right to enforce religion on others? The Quran clearly states: "Let there be no compulsion in religion." Doesn't take Einstein to work that one out.
Didn't I say that we can apply some of the Shariah as common law( I don't mean precedent, by the way)? We can and SHOULD do the tax, zakat and jizyah and nationalisation bits, but that isn't the whole of Shariah. There are parts of the Shariah that we have to encourage and can't enforce on others. I'm sorry. I'm not against having Shariah as one of the source, but as the only one, I don't think so.
We can base law on Islamic principles but can't run a country on pure Shariah, because it WILL be abused.

err...Saudi doesn't have Shariah law.

There is nothing in Shariah law about having a hereditory Monarchy.

Don't just do something! Stand there.

"Ya'qub" wrote:

err...Saudi doesn't have Shariah law.

There is nothing in Shariah law about having a hereditory Monarchy.

Of thieves.

He who sacrifices his conscience to ambition, burns a picture to obtain the ashes!

Ah, but Saudi CLAIMS to run on Shariah, doesn't it? It thinks it can use the "Shariah" to justify what it's doing and HAS so far got away with it.

Chin up, mate! Life's too short.

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Majority of Pakistanis want Shariah Law

Salam

Excuse me. Pakistan is already an Islamic country.

"[b]Islamic Republic of Pakistan[/b]" is the name, in case you had not noticed.

And, the Pakistani people are the best Muslims in the world.

Show me better a bunch anywhere else?

Omrow

bedford Biggrin

Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...

"Omrow" wrote:
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Majority of Pakistanis want Shariah Law

Salam

Excuse me. Pakistan is already an Islamic country.

"[b]Islamic Republic of Pakistan[/b]" is the name, in case you had not noticed.

And, the Pakistani people are the best Muslims in the world.

Show me better a bunch anywhere else?

Omrow

Ahh, the long awaited return of The Omrow!

What a glorious day it is.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

i think ive been away from the revival for too long people actually happy to see omrow :shock: wow im stunned

Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...

some fresh blood.

welcome back Omrow Biggrin

finally, the forum can start getting back to normal.

when was it ever normal

Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...

tru tru all we need is some sort of insane person on here wait thats me Smile

Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...

no, you're just pointless Smile

j/k!

u best be joking!

Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...

r u tryin to say im a pointless joke?

Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...

im translating:
no your just pointless Biggrin
joking

Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...

Salam

She is not a pointless joke.

She is just a joke.

I mean, she is funny.

Omrow