1) Reading Quran without touching it and without wudu - Yes.

2) Reading Quran whilst touching it without wudu - No.

* Two exceptions to the second rule:-
a) Touching can be done if one is using a cloth which one is not wearing,
b) Young children.

Under no circumstances are you permitted to to touch the Quran without wudu 🙂

unless obviously young children, but you should help them do wudu first 🙂

it isnt just any book, it is the holy quran 🙂

and then there is all the rulings about Tafseer, Quran with translation etc..

and then the rulings for menstruation women.

etc.. etc..

my head hurts...

I don't think this question is one for a poll, but one for a scholar.

The answer from the lets talk show the other day was as mentioned above - you can read the qur'an without wudhu. You however cannot touch the qur'an without wudhu.

when menstruating - for those that do - reading the qur'an is not allowed. It should be avoided.

[quote=You]I don't think this question is one for a poll, but one for a scholar.[/quote]
I was thinking the same thing.

[quote=You]when menstruating - for those that do - reading the qur'an is not allowed. It should be avoided.[/quote]
...unless Qur'an is recited with the intention of du'a, such as reading Ayat-ul-Qursi before going to sleep.

Re touching tafsir without wudu - if the commentary exceeds the amount of Qur'anic verses (which it normally does) then wudu is not needed to touch it, although it is makruh.

As for the translation of the Qur'an - it recently came to my attention that one cannot touch it without wudu.

what's the difference between tafseer and commentary? :S

and what about translation? can u read that without wudhu?

[quote=ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE]what's the difference between tafseer and commentary? :S[/quote]
Corrected - meant translation

[quote=ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE]and what about translation? can u read that without wudhu?[/quote]
See above

What about books which have ayahs/translation of the Qur'an. Like they're know books of translation or anything but used as evidence for whatever is being said etc. Can you read/touch them without wudhu/whilst menstruating?

[quote=ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE]What about books which have ayahs/translation of the Qur'an[/quote]
Same rules as with tafsir (as long as the verses constitute only a small percentage of the contents of the book.) However one cannot touch the actual verses of the Qur'an without wudu.

i read somewhere that when you're in state of Janabah, you cant even recite/read the ayahs (from memory, in books) is this true?

(i really need to read up on this...)

Shaykh Jibalee wrote something about women being allowed to touch the Quran and recite from it during that time of the month. But most scholars say its not allowed.

what about reading the Quran online during that time of the month?

I think the majority opinion (whatever that means) is you're not allowed to read it in an unbroken sense at all, even if from memory.

[quote=You]I think the majority opinion is you're not allowed to read it in an unbroken sense at all, even if from memory.[/quote]

are you talking for the Janabaah state?

[quote=Lilly]i read somewhere that when you're in state of Janabah, you cant even recite/read the ayahs (from memory, in books) is this true?[/quote]
Yes - a man/woman who are in janabah are in the same state of impurity as a woman being in haidh (menstruation) and nifas (bleeding after child-birth).

We can! since there is a case for non muslims......of those who know not of ablution!

[quote=Samurai]We can! since there is a case for non muslims......of those who know not of ablution![/quote]

ignorance is forgiven. But most of the time we do ask non muslims to purify (or at least wash their hands) before touching the Quran. Most of the time they touch one with translation so its not too bad.
BUT we know we have to make wudu.

and why ask if you "knew" the answer...

during mensturation, there is no problem reading it, but there is touching it. And we can certainly hold the Holy book while there is for example a pak cloth between one's hands and Quran.

agreed

i think to read and learn quran we need to do wazu.without touching quran we can recite verses of quran without wazu i suggest you http://www.onlinequranreading.org

Actually you can and can't read. 

if you are reading it by looking at the Quran book it is not permissible to do so.

and if you want to read it by heart without looking at the Quran then yes you can do that, 

and if you meant that you have to do the ghusal, then no you can't read it anyway. 

hopefully this was clear and easy to understand.

for details about obligatory sunnah and makrooh acts in wudu and Ghusl I will recomment this website.  Online Quran Classes

you can read the english translation without ablution

You can read the Qur'an without wudhu.

You cannot touch the Qur'an without wudhu.

Exactly, I would say this the good answer, cuz you said the whole thing in just 2 lines.

No.

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Mind if a third option is added to the poll?

I have seen some of it, not all.

haha 😃 mashAllah that is good to hear 🙂

well that is better then watching none 🙂 ... i think it really opens a new way of percieving this life 🙂

I am sorry if this comes across badly (especially since you are a new member and it may seem that I only bite), but I would disagree that it is better to see some than none...

Our sources we are meant to base things on are Qur'an and sunnah, not on The Arrivals, which does not always stand up well in the light of those sources.

[quote=TheDivineExsistence]haha 😃 mashAllah that is good to hear 🙂

well that is better then watching none 🙂 ... i think it really opens a new way of percieving this life :)[/quote]

Check this out The Arrivals: The sooner they depart the better

haha its okay 🙂

we wi8ll just have to agree to disagree 🙂

see, i knew that article would have no effect on those who believe in the arrivals! [but great article still :)]

@ TheDivineExsistence - What do you take away from the series? Any specific lessons?

hahaha lol 🙂 @ power of silence 🙂

a lot of lessons 🙂 but i think mainly not to be fooled for living for this life, but for the nexxt and the the beattle is within your own soul, forget whate else is going on 🙂 haha

[quote=TheDivineExsistence]a lot of lessons 🙂 but i think mainly not to be fooled for living for this life, but for the nexxt and the the beattle is within your own soul, forget whate else is going on 🙂 haha[/quote]

Seriously? that's all that you've learnt. I think it would be better for people to live and experiance life or maybe just read some ISLAMIC books and they'd learn that.

Sorry but i hate how people go on like its some brilliant thing that teaches you to be great but really does nothing, or atleast nothing that couldn't be done by better means.

Yes but its not jus aimed at muslims is it? and not everybpdy can just pick up an islamic book and understand it ..... So it helps a lot people understand certain aspects of religion and the world itself a lot easier ..

It is giving people knowledge so i dont understand why people are so fast to critise it, because really what are you doing to spread God's message?? (when i say you i mean everyone)

So just take the positives and it is brilliant because they have clearly used their time and effort to share it with us and isnt that ummah in itself? 🙂

[quote=TheDivineExsistence]Yes but its not jus aimed at muslims is it? and not everybpdy can just pick up an islamic book and understand it ..... So it helps a lot people understand certain aspects of religion and the world itself a lot easier ..

It is giving people knowledge so i dont understand why people are so fast to critise it, because really what are you doing to spread God's message?? (when i say you i mean everyone)

So just take the positives and it is brilliant because they have clearly used their time and effort to share it with us and isnt that ummah in itself? :)[/quote]

It's NOT spreading God's word.

What are the main things the arrivals is trying to say ? not to be fooled into this life AND to focus on worshiping God for the next .. so it kind of is really, jus because it uses some un-islamic sources does not mean it isnt the trth .. atleast they're trying to do something about it, what are we all doing???

eveyone seems to get so defensive when people speak about the arrivals :/ lol

started to watch it. but its SO long...
can i just watch random parts?

[quote=TheDivineExsistence]What are the main things the arrivals is trying to say ? not to be fooled into this life AND to focus on worshiping God for the next .. so it kind of is really, jus because it uses some un-islamic sources does not mean it isnt the trth .. atleast they're trying to do something about it, what are we all doing???

eveyone seems to get so defensive when people speak about the arrivals :/ lol[/quote]

😃 You are the first person to admit it's not an Islamic source.
And if you realise that, then i guess it can't do you much harm as long as you realise its not all right.

Haha 🙂 i am not under any falsehood that it is an 'Islamic source' so to speak 😃

i take me knowledge from only the holy Quran 🙂 however you should always try to better yourself with knowledge 🙂

and really the arrivals does make some important points for example muslim brothers and sisters are so bust fighting within our own religion that really is it any wonder Islam is being attacked by others ???? We need to be united in the worship of ALLAH SWT instead of wasting precious time fighting dont you think 🙂

@ lilly

haha it is a bit long :/ so what i did was started watching from part 10 which is the start of section 2 🙂 this got me so intrested i was compelled to watch the rest .. 🙂

Also they have different titles so anything that intrests you, you can watch 🙂

I started off with the one about Bloodlines (which is what made me watch the rest). I think it really does wake you up though (hence "The Wake Up" Project). A lot of it seems to be too big to be coincidences like the bloodline thing and about Ray the Ancient Egyptian sun god and the masonic rituals (which has been described by many other people than just those who made the Arrivals)

Yes some concepts do make you think 'realllly?' but it's something to at least consider right?

Oh and the 9/11 thing being an inside job.. i went to something a few years ago (which is why i'm not writing specifics, it's a blur) and one of the security guards was there (i think he said he was the last one out of the building) and spoke about how the building blew up from the inside before the planes hit.

I think yeh now there might be 'terrorists and suicide bombers' because those guys have been given a false example to follow (i.e. the muslim guys who supposedly killed themselves along with all the rest of the people on the plane). Yes there were most probably suicide bombers existing before 9/11 but weird that it wasn't hyped up in the media as much, no one would be as 'afraid' of muslims before. Do we fear the irish as a group? no. But i'm pretty sure the IRA killed people too.

The media really do rule our lives

im an idealist i think.

because i dont really like all those conspiracy theory and inside stuff.. =/
I like it simple and straightforward. (hence why i might just get used for my innocence, or thickness or lack of awareness..)

ANYWAY! Existence: you are one smiley person. How old are you? (you really should post in the New member topic, instead of answering my randomest question on random posts) SOme people dont like telling their age so its fine if you dont wanna, just let us know whereabout you sit in the age thingything.

@ Truth's trazor - MashAllah i am happy somebody can see my point and yes i too started with the bloodlines one 🙂 its amasing 😃

have you watched all of them ? 🙂

🙂 🙂 🙂 --- ( smiling is charity ) 🙂

simple and straighforward is a great way to be 🙂 however sometimes we must think outside the box in order to realise what we are being fed to believe 🙂 which is most defiantley NOT the islamic way 🙂

but putting that aside... Do you as a person want to be fed to believe something that you are unaware of? 🙂

to be fooled into thinking this life is to live for ? 🙂

to make the mistake the Holy Qura, Bible and Toraht have warned about ?? 🙂

so i think this is why 'the arrivals' is a good thing to watchh..

it is not intent to feed us conspiracies so we have anxiety about anything, and really any thinking person can understand its goal .. like it says in one of the episodes some people are just not ready for the truth, they would rather believe in the so called 'reality' we are fed because it is easier for them to do so, therfore they can never overcome the trial that is this life and are blocking themselves from true spirituality and mercy from ALLAH SWT 🙂

P.s i am 15 🙂 how old are all of you? 🙂

smileys making me dizzy =/ 😛

Yes. good points, but it seems i could get all of this by reading books and the Quran.

how can i believe something i am unaware of? =/
whats the mistake the bible and toraht were warned about?

(genuine questions, not trying to put you down or anything)

Prophet SAW said that smiling was charity 🙂 so i am giving virtual charity 😃

Yes indeed these can be taken from the Quran 🙂 however not everybody can pick up the Quran and understand the verses straight away, Non-muslims might not want to read the quran, so arrivals offers a good way of showing only PART of this 🙂 afterall no, knowledge is greater then from the Quran 🙂

Well clearly you are now aware of it as we are discussing it 🙂 what you choose to do with this knowledge is entirely up to you 🙂
the wake up project is merely a tool in helping HUMANITY from what is trying to destroy it, so everyone can understand the johad starts from within 🙂

the mistake i was refering to is to not follow the rules of ALLAH SWT, having patience, being compassionate, smiling, nota taking others life etc... 🙂 this life is a false delusion in which we are being force fed to belive having the latest gadget etc is important, it is keeping us occupied while they are destroying our world 🙁

🙂

oh and you didnt say ur age? 🙂

Seeee that's what I'm talking about - we should think outside the box!

(btw at the smiles are charity thing, all those smiley faces are scaring me, but good to see you being so generous!)

Well while Lilly replies with her age..
I shall tell you mine, I'm um um not 15 or 16 or 17 or 18 or 19 or 20. I'm 21 (why do i feel a little embarrassed at that fact?)

haha 🙂 its nice to see someone agreeing with me 🙂 tbh we should think inside, around and outside the box 😃 lol

🙂 thankyou, i am a natrually smiley person so might aswell express it through the virtual world aswell 🙂

MashAllah thats nice to know 🙂

I shall now undo the suspense i have plunged you into through my not replying. ( i nearly actually missed your post with your age)

Im sixteen! (and a half) So year 11, well year 12 now
and you're Year 10/11 this year? Exception is in year 11 too now, not sure if she has hit her sweet sixteen yet. Well anyhow! Welcome!! hope we become friendly!!!

(just replace all the exclamation marks with smileys)

and yeah, as Truth said. those smileys are kinda scary...not you, just their yellow faces...

where was i? OHHH YEAH!! The revival is actually a secret organisation where we are recruiting kids/young people to take over the world. Just to let you know...

PS:how, when, why, where, what still need to be figured.

Haha, tbh i forgot about your reply 🙂

well i am going into year 11 🙂 and 16 in a month 🙂 ..... ermm sorry the smileys are gna have to stay 🙂 🙂 🙂

LOL are you being serious?? if it was secret you would being telling me would you now 🙂

ohhh and thankyou for my welcome 🙂 🙂 🙂

How can you smile to much ? 😃 LOL

well dont be to creeped out 🙂 and just say SubhanAllah minus the shut-up 🙂 🙂 🙂