How Do You Measure Religiousness?

Salaam

"Being religious" means different things to different people.

Depending on where you're standing the water will look a different colour. "Too much" or "not enough" is all open to interpretation.

I’ve often heard people ask, “Are you religious?” Or say “She’s SO religious”….or “Mashallah he has a beard so he must be religious”. Or that so and so is "too" religious.

But how does one measure religiosity?

According to some, establishing an Islamic Khilafa makes one “practicing”

According to others, it’s to internally perfect yourself i.e. to have the right intentions and a clean/pure heart.

So what do you say about a brother who attends all marches, talks, gives out leaflets etc but does not have a beard and is not regular with his prayer.

Is he practicing?

Or the sister who boycotts Marks and Spencer, attends anti war rallies, but does not wear a Hijaab, is she more or less practicing then the girl who sits at home all day, reading her five prayers and observing the Hijaab?

What about the one who is involved in Jihad day and night, yet neglects all other rituals of Islam?

Is the hijabi with a boyfriend religious? Or the bearded guy who does a bit of fraud?

Does praying five times a day makes one “practicing?”

Would you say that YOUR religious? And is it even possible to measure religiosity?

What do you use as indicators to judge religiosity if your one of the people who likes asking these questions.

Share your thoughts.

Wasalaam

p.s is “religiosity” even a word?

I think religiosity is measured through a person’s humbleness, those who are religious dont go round telling people i did this/did that for deen, their main aim is to please Allah (swt) and the Holy Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam (Peace and Blessings be upon him) and through small/big deeds of theirs you can see they are tryin to implement the sunnah of the Holy Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam (Peace and Blessings be upon him)

I think angel hit the hammer on the head there.

A persons religious-ness is measured thru their humbleness, thru their character.

And no 'religiousity' is not an offical word. But you can go around using it and hopefully maybe one day it will be. How do you think the word Quiz came into existance.

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"MuslimSister" wrote:

p.s is “religiosity” even a word?

religiosity

re·li·gi·os·i·ty
n.

1. The quality of being religious.
2. Excessive or affected piety.

i think if a person does A-Z in Islam AND doesnt big themselves up that =being religious

if they do A-Z in Islam yet like to big themselves up as well they are def NOT religious

and "being religious" means u cant contradict urself e.g Hijaabi with the long term bearded boyfriend is NOT religious

"angel" wrote:
I think religiosity is measured through a person’s humbleness, those who are religious dont go round telling people i did this/did that for deen, their main aim is to please Allah (swt) and the Holy Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam (Peace and Blessings be upon him) and through small/big deeds of theirs you can see they are tryin to implement the sunnah of the Holy Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam (Peace and Blessings be upon him)

On the other hand they may not be going around people they did this and that coz they really didn't.
:roll:

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

"Admin" wrote:

On the other hand they may not be going around people they did this and that coz they really didn't.
:roll:

trust u to think negatively of humble religious people :roll:

btw if someone is doing sumin worthy for Islam everyone finds out about it anyway

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:
"Admin" wrote:

On the other hand they may not be going around people they did this and that coz they really didn't.
:roll:

trust u to think negatively of humble religious people :roll:

btw if someone is doing sumin worthy for Islam everyone finds out about it anyway

I am not being negative, just honest. If you don't bragg does not mean you're humble. you just may not be capable.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

"Admin" wrote:

I am not being negative, just honest. If you don't bragg does not mean you're humble. you just may not be capable.

so would u say that bigging urself up means that ur somthing worthy?

is that how a person's religiousness should be measured?

No bigging yourself up does not mean anything. Neither does not bigging yourself up.

Being religious is not a scale. 'I am more religious than you. naa nana naa naa!'

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

"Admin" wrote:
No bigging yourself up does not mean anything. Neither does not bigging yourself up.

NOT bigging urself up (and being a good muslims undercover) means that ur something worthy

being quiet and humble etc

thats my scale of measurement

i dont know whats ur scale of measurement

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:
"Admin" wrote:
No bigging yourself up does not mean anything. Neither does not bigging yourself up.

NOT bigging urself up (and being a good muslims undercover) means that ur something worthy.

So how do you know the person is worthy? if they are not bigging themselves up, it may be because they have not committed the deed!

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

i dont think there is any way to 'measure' a person's religiousness because everyone manifests this differently.

to be honest i dont think the question should be 'how do u measure religiousness?' but instead 'WHY do u measure religiousness?' - shouldnt we be leaving this to Allah? the reason this question really bugs me is because, eventually, people have superficial reasons i.e. appearance, for judging a persons religiousness and as a result, many a time they couldnt be further from the truth!

i say we judge ourselves and leave the rest to Allah.

p.s. this isn't directed at anyone in particular, just my general thoughts on the matter.

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"Admin" wrote:

So how do you know the person is worthy? if they are not bigging themselves up, it may be because they have not committed the deed!

whatever deeds that person was doing good/bad trust me I'd know about it

and Aasiyah ur right

it the most annoying thing in the world when people measure other people's religiosity

but whats MORE annoying is when people acribe religius labels on others when they aint even religious and maybe have a beard/read Jumaah sumtimes etc

"Admin" wrote:

On the other hand they may not be going around people they did this and that coz they really didn't.
:roll:

loner give it a rest! what i meant was those religious ppl who do somethin good stay humble and dont go round sayin I did this/did that but others can see that they have done this and there are others who do things so they can go round telling ppl what they did....who would say they did somethin when they didnt????? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I was thinking about this and i just want to say this.

Through the "thinking" lol, i say that if you are a muslim the english word, religious should not exist in your dictionary or lexis. Unfortunately, in comparison with arabic, english is very inadequate and the words used can be very vague and open to an invitation of debate.....

I think being a Muslim, calling yourself one today, is diffrentiated in two ways, one who has the name alone, (i am muslim), and one who has the name but the actual practice and Imaan.

I see that to be a real Muslim, being religious is automatic! thus i say it dont exist in my lexis to describe a muslim rather i would incorporate words like you have been using, like humbleness etc, and in the end, what really makes every individual different, is his Imaan, his level and his station.

May Allah bless you All and keep us on the right path. Ameen

Wsalaam

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You measure how religous are person is by seeing how pious, humble and how a person is not arrogant and also how a person practices what he preaches and how modest that person is and how he follows Islam.

"Purity is half of faith.......Prayer is the light...patience is illumination; and the Quran is an argument for or against you. Everyone starts his day and is a vendor of his soul, either freeing it or bringing about its ruin." Muslim

to me top of the ladder are wali's and at the bottom me and anywhere inbetween is good going. i want my tombstone to read 'she was striving to be Muslim and may the striving continue in her grave'

salam

seema (changed my name)

yes it is lilsis but what does it look like exactly? can you give any examples ie in ple we all know

"almas" wrote:
yes it is lilsis but what does it look like exactly? can you give any examples ie in ple we all know

Its said to be like an inner glow. You can usually tell by looking at the persons face. An examples not neccessary you'll know it when you see it.

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"yashmaki" wrote:
Assalamu Alaikum,

mmm but muslim sis noor on someones face isn't always easy to see. How do we know it's noor it could be discreet make up for that all radiant glow... Lol It could be pure grease. Seriously you can't really know if it's noor can you?

this "noor" is sort of like a radient glow, no amount of make up in the world could acheive this effect,

the person with noor sort of has this aura around him/her

this noor can be seen on people of all colours...a person would noor is normally a calm and gentle, softly spoken person as welll

u cant miss it or mistaken it for grease

p.s PLEASE dont get me and my sister mixed up, never mistaken her posts for mine and vice versa, nothing is more annoying, my grandmother also calls me by my sisters name and when I correct her she says in punjabi "whatever" :roll: it makes me SO mad

yes, noor on the face is also a very good sign and you can tell if someone has that.

"Purity is half of faith.......Prayer is the light...patience is illumination; and the Quran is an argument for or against you. Everyone starts his day and is a vendor of his soul, either freeing it or bringing about its ruin." Muslim

Salam

Regardless of their lack of actions, a person who truly believes in God is religious.

No one else is religious, regardless of their so called pious actions.

Omrow

"Omrow" wrote:

Regardless of their lack of actions, a person who truly believes in God is religious.

Then in agreement we are.

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Buckari (Volume 1, Book 2, Number 10)

Narrated Abu Musa:

Some people asked Allah's Apostle, "Whose Islam is the best? i.e. (Who is a very good Muslim)?" He replied, "One who avoids harming the Muslims with his tongue and hands."

So that is one of the ways of measuring religiousness.

"Purity is half of faith.......Prayer is the light...patience is illumination; and the Quran is an argument for or against you. Everyone starts his day and is a vendor of his soul, either freeing it or bringing about its ruin." Muslim

Salaam

A person’s character in my opinion is the yardstick of their worth and level of piety.

It is irrelevant if one knows Arabic language/grammar, has a beard/covers, fasts or prays etc etc

What’s important is the way they behave…how considerate they are and how they interact with others.

The Holy Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam (Peace and Blessings be upon him) said “Through good manners one can reach the status of the one who not only fasts but stays awake all night in worship”.

The Holy Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam (Peace and Blessings be upon him) has also said “Through good character one can achieve a high degree in the afterlife, even if he is weak in worship”.

Wasalaam

Use a Religiosity Meter or ask the council for a chart. Put the answer in an envelope marked with your favourite colour and mail it to yourself.

Salam

"MuslimSister" wrote:
A person’s character in my opinion is the yardstick of their worth and level of piety.

It is irrelevant if one knows Arabic language/grammar, has a beard/covers, fasts or prays etc etc

What’s important is the way they behave…how considerate they are and how they interact with others.

Beautiful slaughter of loud-mouthed zealots and other Salafi jerks.

This means that you have finnnaly come around to the place where me and Searph have been standing for eons.

Omrow

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