Thanks!

congrats Davy boy

BTW just wondering

to what extent does ur wealth and status play a part in determining who and what u are today?

do u believe that u could have married a girl like annette, fathered twins, been a harvard boy and got away with GBH if u were a working class boy?

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:

BTW just wondering

to what extent does ur wealth and status play a part in determining who and what u are today?

do u believe that u could have married a girl like annette, fathered twins, been a harvard boy and got away with GBH if u were a working class boy?

lil sis is a excellent social commentator…

i'd give her a show on london live....

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:

congrats Davy boy

Thanks

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BTW just wondering

to what extent does ur wealth and status play a part in determining who and what u are today?

do u believe that u could have married a girl like annette, fathered twins, been a harvard boy and got away with GBH if u were a working class boy?

Well... I think the circumstances of my life, wealth being one of them played a part in meeting and eventually marrying her but that has nothing to do with how we feel about each other, and it never played a part there. I don't know what would have happened in an alternate reality, I prefer to think nothing would change.

But, having a family young definitely is possible because of the money situation. I would have had to wait otherwise, probably even to ask her to marry me, but definitely with the kids.

Harvard would have been totally out of the question. I'm normal intelligence - not the most sensible guy in the world either. I'm no genius by any stretch of the word and I've got no merits for going to any of the schools I have attended, from elementary school up to Law School presently.

Speaking of not being a genius what the heck does GBH stand for?

"Don Karnage" wrote:

Speaking of not being a genius what the heck does GBH stand for?

grievous bodily harm....

u beaten anyone up recently?

As for what part wealth and class play in where I am today - it has been the dominant role in my life for far too long.

I'm in the military because that is what my family has done since the revolution and that is what is expected of us by the family and other people in our particular social situation. I am in law because that is what my social class respects (that or doctor), I own multiple residences because that is what is expected of wealthy people and that is why my parents did.

"SAINT GEORGE ZHUKOV" wrote:

grievous bodily harm....

Oh... then to answer your question lilsis if I were a poor black kid and did the things I've done even though I was justified there would be no way I could get away with most of it.

Getting somebody like me in trouble embarasses people. You'd have vets parading down the street about how our brave young soldiers protect our freedom and this is how they are repayed. You would have lots of charitable organizations talking about how I'm a great guy and a valuable member of the community. And you'd have politicians quietly talking to the powers that be so that I don't become the kind of friend they have to deny.

Short of something serious like a rape or murder I'm probably always going to get away with some level of mischief - not that I live like that anymore.

"Don Karnage" wrote:

"SAINT GEORGE ZHUKOV" wrote:

grievous bodily harm....

Oh... then to answer your question lilsis if I were a poor black kid and did the things I've done even though I was justified there would be no way I could get away with most of it.

Getting somebody like me in trouble embarasses people. You'd have vets parading down the street about how our brave young soldiers protect our freedom and this is how they are repayed. You would have lots of charitable organizations talking about how I'm a great guy and a valuable member of the community. And you'd have politicians quietly talking to the powers that be so that I don't become the kind of friend they have to deny.

Short of something serious like a rape or murder I'm probably always going to get away with some level of mischief - not that I live like that anymore.

all men are equal....

some are more equal than others.........

Congrats.

Now can somebody hit me with a clue stick.

"SAINT GEORGE ZHUKOV" wrote:

all men are equal....

some are more equal than others.........

It's never as simple as a quip...

"Admin" wrote:

Congrats.

Now can somebody hit me with a clue stick.

Annette is a couple weeks pregnant

"Don Karnage" wrote:

"SAINT GEORGE ZHUKOV" wrote:

all men are equal....

some are more equal than others.........

It's never as simple as a quip...

its no quip....

its the truth....

its a comment on society....

i hold that truth to be self evident......

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i thought as much

its cool that ur so honest and matter of fact about it

i often ascribe my happiness and carefree lifystyle to the way my parents have brought me up

i think i'd be a very diff girl had i been bourght up in a working class family, with cultural and uneducated parents

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:

i thought as much

its cool that ur so honest and matter of fact about it

Thats because I resent it - not the question - the circumstance

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i often ascribe my happiness and carefree lifystyle to the way my parents have brought me up

i think i'd be a very diff girl had i been bourght up in a working class family, with cultural and uneducated parents

Honestly your family - and most of the other posters here - is what I want for my kids. Like you don't talk about it but I get the impression you are economically comfortable but not overabundant. And you seem to have a really close knit normal middle class family, 9-5 working father, stay at home mother, I bet you do stuff on the weekends together.

That would be awesome

"Don Karnage" wrote:

Honestly your family - and most of the other posters here - is what I want for my kids. Like you don't talk about it but I get the impression you are economically comfortable but not overabundant. And you seem to have a really close knit normal middle class family, 9-5 working father, stay at home mother, I bet you do stuff on the weekends together.

That would be awesome

yeh thats EXACTLY how our family is.

and saturdays is usually shopping day for us 3 sisters. sumtimes we take mum out too.

we eat dinner together daily. we dont go on holidays as much as we shud. mainly cos our holidays (mine, my sisters and my dads) very rarely fall on the same time.

my 'economically confortable' lifestyle is not enough to finanace my extravagence loving needs (fancy car(s) and designer handbags to match every outfit).

that why ur lifestyle fascinates me

and thats why i spend so much time watching 'Fabulous Life' on MTV

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lol THANKS! That must have taken a little while to finish!

Right now we're not sure if we've been twinned again... it doesn't look that way, but she will be okay this time no mortality threat or anything so I am definitely relieved... and a bit confused.

I wasn't expecting three kids so fast... I'm just a big kid playing house (I think I'm winning), I couldn't imagine myself as an authority figure or somebody's daddy.

Isabella and Olivia think otherwise though, incidentally they said their first words! (Kinda). Sunday - "dunday" to be precise - but it still counts. I was playing with them and my wife asked me a question so I called back "next sunday!" and then olivia shrieked "dunday!" and then olivia did the same. Then they both clapped and giggled and continued to say "dunday"

All Annette's hard work has paid off - she sings to them and reads to them and talks to them almost all day and night.

It was wonderful!

And a little bizzarre... this doing everything in tandem bit is really going to freak me out.

"Don Karnage" wrote:

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:

i thought as much

its cool that ur so honest and matter of fact about it

Thats because I resent it - not the question - the circumstance

hang on

whats there to resent?

i'd be loving it

if i had ur lifestyle - i' allow MTV cribs to come to my house

lol @ lilsis

Dave congrats to you and Annette, wish her an easy pregnancy/labour.

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:

yeh thats EXACTLY how our family is.

and saturdays is usually shopping day for us 3 sisters. sumtimes we take mum out too.

we eat dinner together daily. we dont go on holidays as much as we shud. mainly cos our holidays (mine, my sisters and my dads) very rarely fall on the same time.

That is really cool, did your parents come to childhood events and stuff too? Any other regular family activities like shopping or dinner?

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my 'economically confortable' lifestyle is not enough to finanace my extravagence loving needs (fancy car(s) and designer handbags to match every outfit).

that why ur lifestyle fascinates me

and thats why i spend so much time watching 'Fabulous Life' on MTV

My life is not anything like MTV cribs... they are people who have quickly amassed a large amount of money 60, 70 perhaps 80 million dollars and equally quickly spend it on things you or I probably never think about - talking sofas, showers with laptops in them, robots and other idiotic excesses just to demonstrate to other people that they can have whatever they want.

Conversely I inherited and will continue to inherit a nearly inexhaustible 250 something year old ball and chain. There isn't much fun in wanting things because I never gave myself long enough time to actually want something before I bought it and so those kinds of cravings don't make much of an impression on me... I don't really care if people know I can have whatever I want, and besides - I can't, because the things I want don't have a price tag.

You would probably find that aspect of my life pretty boring pretty fast.

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:

hang on

whats there to resent?

i'd be loving it

if i had ur lifestyle - i' allow MTV cribs to come to my house

There is lots to resent.

"Don Karnage" wrote:

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:

yeh thats EXACTLY how our family is.

and saturdays is usually shopping day for us 3 sisters. sumtimes we take mum out too.

we eat dinner together daily. we dont go on holidays as much as we shud. mainly cos our holidays (mine, my sisters and my dads) very rarely fall on the same time.

That is really cool, did your parents come to childhood events and stuff too? Any other regular family activities like shopping or dinner?

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u ask me stuff that i've taken for granted or never really thought about

well. parents have never missed a parents evening or a school play even where i have a small part.

they've never missed a million and one speeches that my sister does

we've been to france - disnay world etc a lot when we were children

we always go to people's houses and weddings together as a family

when we was kids - weekly shopping used to be done as a family - but THANK GOD me and my sister have our license now cos them shopping trips were HELL. we'd fight SO much.

we used to have weekly 'bike riding' sessions in the park when we were kids as a family (dad even taught mum how to ride a bike)

he taught my sister how to play badminton really well - and they've been on holiday a LOT toegther

we have lots of family barbecues together in the summer

when we grew up we were kinda 'too big for our parents now' and still are

so we rather do stuff ourselves then have them hanging around gushing over us

altho - i know my sister appreciated a lift from dad each and everytime she was called to an unknown area when she used to do suppy work (she didnt have her license then and had a terrible sense of direction-still does)

they're always on all our case - it sometimes gets annoying - but truth is they're just really intrested and want the best for us when it comes to jobs, education etc

to be honest - i do appreciate them

i like being in their company - i love teasing my brother - ganging up on him with my sisters - i love taking mum out and I like the way dad always sorts everything out for us

i dnt think we're the 'perfect' family

but i cant think of a family i'd rather be a part of

Out of random curiosity did you know or do anything with your neighbors as a family?

"Don Karnage" wrote:

Out of random curiosity did you know or do anything with your neighbors as a family?

You mean do a family activity and involve the neighbours? ...

Does neighbourhood watch count?

"Seraphim" wrote:

"Don Karnage" wrote:

Out of random curiosity did you know or do anything with your neighbors as a family?

You mean do a family activity and involve the neighbours? ...

Does neighbourhood watch count?

Yea like stuff you do as a family that involves your neighbors? Anybody actually hang out with them or anything?

What is a neighborhood watch, is that exactly what it sounds like?

"Don Karnage" wrote:

"Seraphim" wrote:

"Don Karnage" wrote:

Out of random curiosity did you know or do anything with your neighbors as a family?

You mean do a family activity and involve the neighbours? ...

Does neighbourhood watch count?

Yea like stuff you do as a family that involves your neighbors? Anybody actually hang out with them or anything?

What is a neighborhood watch, is that exactly what it sounds like?

I dont hang with any of my neighbours or anything like that... the most we do is send each other christmas cards and say hi to them when we see them. Nothing big really (i have Christian Neighbours).

A neighborhood watch is a citizens organization with the purpose of crime and vandalism prevention within a neighborhood. Neighborhood watch members are to stay alert to unusual activity and contact the authorities. Basicly everyone in the neighbourhood keeps an eye on each others property incase of burgalrys or something. Coz theres alot of old folk who live on their own so people watch out for each other. And since some people are not even home during the day the neighbours watch over the place whilst they're out.

I cant believe you've never heard of it? :roll: Im pretty sure its an American thing.

It doesn't really involve doing anything does it, unless you're an active member going to meetings and stuff.

"Neighbourhood Watch originated in the United States in Oakland in 1966, under the title [url=http://www.essex.police.uk/advice/v_nhw_01.php]Home Alert[/url]".

When I was a kid and the only non Asian/Muslim kid in school..I used to sit on my own in the canteen at lunch cos no one wanted to sit next to a 'paki..... My next door neighbours kid used to come and sit next to me...and when people used to make fun of me he used to stick up for me. I must have been only 7/8 at the time, but I still rate him for being so decent.

My dad was really close friend with his dad...they used to go shopping together, play sports, the guy used to look after our house when we'd go on holidays, we'd eat dinner togther reg and mum used to always send food over....most non Muslims love 'indian food'

As children we celebrated our b'days together.

When we moved houses, we kinda lost in touch..however, there's def more of a community spirit in my present neighbourhood.

"Seraphim" wrote:

I dont hang with any of my neighbours or anything like that... the most we do is send each other christmas cards and say hi to them when we see them. Nothing big really (i have Christian Neighbours).

A neighborhood watch is a citizens organization with the purpose of crime and vandalism prevention within a neighborhood. Neighborhood watch members are to stay alert to unusual activity and contact the authorities. Basicly everyone in the neighbourhood keeps an eye on each others property incase of burgalrys or something. Coz theres alot of old folk who live on their own so people watch out for each other. And since some people are not even home during the day the neighbours watch over the place whilst they're out.

I cant believe you've never heard of it? :roll: Im pretty sure its an American thing.

Interesting, I've never heard of this... We live in a gated community in Boston so there is no reason for a neighborhood watch. There wasn't any reason for alert in South Carolina either until some individual began stalking Annette so I brought in hired security. I don't think a neighborhood watch would really work since the properties are miles apart, but it's definitely a good idea...