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[b]Is Islam Compatible With Modern Life?[/b]
Can you follow Islam and live in the 21st century?
Can you be a practising Muslim and follow the law of the land in the West?
Does Islam become an obstacle to fun?
Is Islam an obstacle to freedom?
Is Islam behind times?
Islam says having 2 or 3 or 4 wives is Ok, western law its a crime???
Islam says homosexuality is a sin, western sopcieties say it is ok, normal and acceptavle- a big clash!!!!
Found a wicked job at Barclays, ooops you cant do it especiallt if it deals with mortgages, interest etc.....Is Islam an obstacle to success?
Islam says pray five times a day....in many jobs you cant, many professions you cant, some student schedules makes it impossible- is Islam a bit harsh?
Modern society promotes a clean shaven hunk, sexy looking women..... Islam says have full length beard...and beauty should not be displayed..... again is Islam boring, strict and a bit backward?
Dad, i want a puppy....no you cant, angels dont enter the house where there is a dog!!! Dad i just want a puppy as a pet , to play with...NO!!!! Islam in the way again????
had a long hard day, blast the tunes...ermmmmm, no!! music haram!!! Islam needs to chill out?
Im a guy, its really hot out there, going to the beach in my shorts.....NO, shorts have to be below knees!!!! can a muslim play for Man U...ermmmmm have to get massive shorts to cover my knee!!! Is Islam backward?
C'mon mate our team at work is going to our local for a team celebration....eeerrmmm sorry i cant. Is Islam an obstacle?
no sex before marriage, no boy/girlfriend, no drinking, no interest, no mortagages, cant wear shorts above the knees, girls cant even wear t-shirts, cant go to the pub to watch England play footy in the world cup.......
So, is Islam compatible with modern life?
discuss...
Lol-Nice topic.
Modern life is “a do what you feel like society” therefore, Islam is not compatible with modern life.
This freedom to do whatever you like which is present in modern life leads to a degenerate society and degeneration always leads to problems.
Pre-Islamic Arabia lived without religion. The absence of values caused people to fall into immoral and even bestial behaviour…the pagan Arabs also did whatever made them feel good.
There's loads of definitions of "modern life"...if by modern life you mean technological advances etc then yeh, Islam is compatible with modern life.
"Modern life" is ever changing...50 years ago when women werent allowed to vote and the norm was that she remains a housewife only was considered "modern" at that time.
The message of Islam is eternal, its message is as valid for us today as it was 14,000 years ago. All the “rules, prohibitions” etc are for our own good…Allah (swt) knows best the psychology and make up of man.
Man and society can not survive successfully without religion and morality
Poor Ed
Hes finding it all a lil too hard!
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
Same old questons. over and over.
A concept is a concept. Concepts are not limited by time, but by understanding.
I amk probably one of the worst muslims on here. Everyone is more practising than me. However if I start questioning wether Islam is out of date, I will need to see a shrink.
A concept can be popular, or unpopular. It cannot be outdated. It simply is not limited by time.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Salam
Islam seems to be out of place in today's society.
We are now at the beginning of the 21st century.
And, from the looks of it, this world is still far too backward for Islam.
Islam is a 23rd century way of life. It is too modern for this century.
Society is not yet advance enough for Islam.
Its way ahead of its time.
Infact, I would go as far as saying that God's Religion is future proof.
Therefore, I think that the present world has a lot of catching up to do with Islam.
Omrow
lol omrow, good post. 'cept Islam isn't just a "23rd century way of life", it is not bound by time, it has been applicable to centuries past, and will be for centuries to come, til the end of time.
how can u be so sure... :? tho i wud say the same about myself.
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I agree with most of the points made above.
What we see now is actually what happend in the jahliyah period (time of ignorance) before the Holy Prophet
was born, in that time people would drink, sleep with women and act in an immoral way. So basically to me this time that we see before us isnt "modern", modern is when somethin is up-to-date but how can that possibly be when such things have already taken place.
The reason many people think Islam is backwards is because it doesnt change, the beauty of Islam is that its moral values dont change to suit people, Islam doesnt go back on its word, Islam is for every generation not just the past but also for the present and future.
The West's concept of modern is always changing (funnily enought its not advanced, just the same as the past generations), somethin that may not have been acceptable in the past is now seen as acceptable. They have no moral values as they keep changing their views.
What about Islamic law?
There hasn't really been a real Islamic state incorporating Islamic Law in centuries.
Is the Shariah law you have been given equipped to answer for the problems of the modern world - mp3 piracy, obscenity, environmental regulations v personal property, Jihad with nuclear weapons.
Or is some level of catchup required as far as Shariah?
yes.
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Salam
How can Divine Law not provide answers to the questions that a modern world can throw at it.
That would be a contradiction in terms.
Naturally. the public may not like the answers given. And that, ofcourse, is a different matter altogether.
Omrow
Salaam
today in a Q&A with a converts/reverts panel at university......sum1 posed the question, whats the hardest part of Islam you found?
and the scottish sister replied.........'none, Islam is the easy way. Its the man that makes it hard.'
our very own brother Dawud was on the panel, and to a seperate question, he gave what i thought was an outstanding comment....."if you dont practice Islam, it becomes like rules that ar restricting you, chaining you to the ground.......however, once you practice Islam, it becomes the air beneath your wings"
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
There some beautiful quotes there. Because before, when you used to look at islam all the things on ed list, used to have a massive impact on the way we think. But when your imaan increases inside you, these things do become very minor. But there is a massive problem still out there as there is alot of people who do think like ed stated.
The only major thing, that i can see that could cause conflict between Islam with today environment, is the media. When i say media i talking about the Rupert Murdoch type of media, where one man can be able to control the mind of so many. The vast communication network setup is offering people the option of a easy life and man always seek comfort so people are only too willing to accept what they told to desire. The thing is the more advance we thinking we getting, we infact are having the opposite affect, because we anything from being civilised today. Why esle is everyone alway conflicting with each other, no one can claim to be civilised when that is happening.
"A true Muslim is thankful to Allah in prosperity, and resigned to His will in adversity."
[url=http//www.guidancemedia.com/videostream.php?id=Burda.mov]Quran[/url]
Islam is compatible with modern life
cavemen are not :roll:
Islam is NOT compattible with a clubbiong lifestyle.
Be that a caveman club where a woman is hit on the head and carried away, or the modern version where she is hit by intoxicants, and then carried away...
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
5/5 for attempted humor.
nah more like 1/10 - he always come up with lame jokes....
But he has his moments when he is actually funny :shock:
Attempted?
I found that pretty funny.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
So did I, don’t listen to Angel- she's probably still giggling
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[b]Woman's History[/b]
Timeline: 1900 To 2000 : [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/womanshour/timeline/1960.shtml]BBC[/url]
[b]1900 - 1909[/b]
After centuries of second-class status, women crashed into the twentieth century with new verve. Victorian feminists had battled to become doctors (1865), to go to university (1869), to gain basic property rights (1882) but after more than thirty years of campaigning, they were still far from winning the vote.
With the founding of the Women's Social and Political Union in 1903, the "suffragettes" were born and the fight for "Votes for Women" began in earnest. The decade saw other daring exploits, from the first women to drive cars and fly planes to new developments in business and science. Childbirth was made safer with midwives regulated for the first time; children were better provided for with the first school clinics and school meals.
By 1909 Elizabeth Garrett Anderson was Britain's first woman mayor and Marie Curie the world's first woman Nobel laureate. The close of the decade also witnessed the first suffragette hunger-strike and the introduction of the horrific practice of force feeding.
[b]1910 - 1919[/b]
With the outbreak of the First World War, differences were forgotten as the suffrage leaders urged women's support. Women are called on to take up male jobs as their men folk are sent to the front. They prove their worth as munitions workers, bus conductors, and office staff. Women were also recruited into the forces and tens of thousands are employed to work on the land.
The result, in 1918, was the vote. But not all women were enfranchised. The vote only goes to those over 30 who held property. By the close of the decade, women could also become MPs and enter the professions. In 1919, Nancy Astor was welcomed into the House of Commons by the Prime Minister himself, the first woman to take her seat as an MP.
[b]1920 - 1929[/b]
The nineteen twenties saw women in the ascendant. New fashions liberated them from corsets and long skirts. The acceptability of single women going to work and having their own money to spend saw a boom in dance halls, cinemas and off the peg-clothes.
Electricity was beginning to ease the burden in the home and the first birth control clinics meant that married women could at last have some control over their fertility. The handful of women MPs helped push through legislation giving women equality in property rights, divorce and the guardianship of children.
The first professional women qualified as lawyers, civil servants, vets and engineers and the new world of broadcasting gave women a voice on the airwaves. This is the decade that saw the first woman cabinet minister and the launch of the campaign for women priests.
[b]1930 - 1939[/b]
After the euphoria of the twenties, the thirties were a less vibrant decade for women.
The Depression meant that they were increasingly encouraged back into the home as jobs for men became scarce. The BBC, which had prided itself on being a modern organisation, introduced a marriage bar in 1932, bringing it in line with the teaching profession and the civil service. This meant that married women were not employed and if you married, you had to resign.
In the world of the arts, however, women were making better progress. Ballet was thriving under Marie Rambert and Ninette de Valois and the singers Edith Piaf and Billie Holiday were making their debuts.
In 1930, a new international hero was born when Amy Johnson successfully flew to Australia. The decade also saw Britain's first woman police inspector, the first Oxbridge professor and the first woman commissioner of prisons.
[b]1940 - 1949[/b]
The Second World War, like the first, had a dramatic effect on women's lives. This time were expected to play a far fuller part in the armed forces.
In many work places childcare was provided to help with the juggling of work and home. Thousands of women found themselves holding down a full time job whilst managing their families on strict rations.
After the war, the introduction of family allowances and the National Health Service undoubtedly improved women's lot but there was also frustration as they were pushed back into the home. Most went willingly, relieved to re-build their families.
Some advances were made with married women allowed to retain their jobs in teaching and the civil service. Cambridge University finally admitted women to its degrees.
[b]1950 - 1959[/b]
The nineteen fifties was very much the decade of domesticity. Most women's lives revolved around their homes and families as they took advantage of new technologies and the consumer boom.
In the world of work, women teachers and civil servants won equal pay and the decade saw Britain 's first woman bank manager, TV newsreader and managing director of an advertising agency.
In the USA, Rosa Parkes galvanised the black civil rights movement when she refused to give up her seat to a white man on a bus. In the UK, Claudia Jones founded the West Indian Gazette and the Notting Hill Carnival. The Kinsey Report into women's sexual behaviour caused shock waves while Dr Spock started a revolution in how to raise your child.
Doris Lessing and Iris Murdoch made their debuts as novelists and at King's College London, research carried out by Rosalind Franklin was key to the discovery of DNA.
[b]1960 - 1969[/b]
The Swinging Sixties saw the re-kindling of female radicalism. In the United States, Betty Friedan published The Feminine Mystique and founded the National Organisation of Women. In Britain, a burgeoning women's liberation movement met for the first time. This was the decade that saw the first sales of the contraceptive pill and a law that legalised abortion.
In 1965 Jean Shrimpton appeared in a mini skirt for the first time and Twiggy set a new style for body and hair. Valentina Tereschkova became the first woman in space and Sirimavo Bandaranaike became the world's first woman Prime Minister, with Indira Ghandi and Golda Meir following soon after.
As Minister of Transport, Barbara Castle introduced seat belts and the breathalyser. As Secretary of State for Employment she paved the way for equal pay. Jocelyn Bell discovered pulsars, Dorothy Hodgkin won a Nobel Prize and The Women's Football Association was founded, with 44 clubs.
[b]1970 - 1979[/b]
This was the decade of feminism. The Equal Pay Act and the Sex Discrimination Act became law and landmark books like Germaine Greer's The Female Eunuch and Kate Millet's Sexual Politics sold in their millions. Magazines like Ms and Spare Rib increasingly found their way into women's homes and the feminist publishers Virago was launched.
Self-help became a by-word as women increasingly took control of their lives with women's refuges and rape crisis centres providing a sanctuary for women who faced violence. It was also the decade that Margaret Thatcher became Britain 's first woman Prime Minister.
[b]1980 - 1989[/b]
The early 1980s saw a proliferation of women-only organisations. This is also the decade of power woman with her shoulder pads and high ambitions. At the same time, many women began to question whether there was a "glass ceiling" as they failed to reach the top jobs in their companies and organisations.
In employment, amendments to the Equal Pay Act and the Sex Discrimination Act established the principal of equal pay for work of equal value and allowed women to retire at the same age as men.
[b]1990 - 1999 [/b]
Women were ordained as priests
Over the decade many women reached the top. In the armed forces, women could go to sea, fly jets and join regular army regiments, although they were still restricted from carrying arms.
The decade also saw Britain 's first woman in space, the first to climb Everest and the first to trek to the North and South poles. After more than sixty years of resistance the Church of England finally ordained women priests. The House of Commons elected a woman speaker and the 1997 election doubled the number of women MPs from 60 to 120, though this number fell in the election of 2001.
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Islam is compatible with modern life, u’ve just got to think of Allah in every situation and remember that the bigger the sacrifice we make then the more reward we will get for it in our afterlife.
smile and be happy!!!
Salam
So you don't really believe that it is compatible ?
Omrow
It depends what you say by modern, if ur talking about drinking, clubbing then no of course not. Its haraam!!! So u’ve got to make those sacrifices in not attending those late student parties and so on…
smile and be happy!!!
the way i see it those things arent 'sacrifices' anyway.
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oh i know that, uff i'm jst getting my wording wrong,
smile and be happy!!!
Modern doesnt have hundred meanings.
And Dusty woman made a good point.
Not really. Your words are your own.
What justifies as a sacrifice can vary among people. For a drunk and a sober man giving up wine is a sacrifice to the drunk but a simple decision by the sober man.
Do not apologise for the truth.
IMO the question is flawed. Islam is eternal. A more appropriate question would be 'How compatible is a Muslim to our current reality.'
Back in BLACK
Fantastic point Seraph.
"Sacrifice" is relative...for e.g one girl may struggle with covering her hair whilst another may not even think twice before she puts her hijaab on every morning.
And we all will be rewarded in accordance to our effort, struggle and difficulties faced in doing good for the sake of Allah (swt)...