[size=18]TERROR LAWS AGREEMENT[/size]The three major parties have come to an agreement on plans to implement new anti-terror measures in the wake of the London bombings.
Home Secretary Charles Clarke hopes to introduce new legislation to Parliament in October.
It follows talks with his Conservative shadow David Davis and Liberal Democrat home affairs spokesman Mark Oaten.
The three said they had reached a cross-party agreement in principle.
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PLANNED NEW LAWS
-Outlawing "acts preparatory to terrorism", such as downloading bomb-making instructions from the internet
-New offence of indirect incitement to commit terrorist acts, such as preachers "glorifying" bombings
-New law for those providing or receiving terrorist training, in the UK or abroad
Now if we remove double standards and see the occupation of Iraq as terrorism, under these laws which british citizen is NOT a terrorist?
None.
Under these terms we all support terrorism. We 'glorified' terrorism by re-electing that lying terrorist scumbag. We all fund terrorism with our taxes. We train these terrorists in our 'training camps'. We commit acts preparatory to terrorism by helping make, transport and fund ammunitions which are used in these terrorist operations.
I hate double standards.
Over 100 people were murdered In Iraq today. Not a word. We still mourn the 55 killed 2 weeks ago.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
i agree...
its a sick cruel world we live in
salaam
Admin, what are you on?
wasalaam
I agree-
Why? does it not all make sense? its simple logic.
You are letting your sentimental feelings cloud your judgement.
I on the other hand only feel rage. I try to be consistent in my analysis of all situations.
You see using british definition of terrorism, we all are terrorists. Apart from that blying scumbag, who's probably got diplomatic immunit coz he is leader.
Besides I don't have the finances for two different emasuring sticks.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
25 British Muslim leaders have met Tony Blair and leaders of the oppostion.
The Muslim leaders were told to back gov plans to combat terrorism.
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Mr Admin u used to be such a easy going chap-but ur so angry and frustrated these days
whats going on?
Salam
I agree with the government's proposal to bring in the new anti-terror legislation.
Why ?
If someone killed a member of my family, I wouldn't like it if people stood there and clapped.
We can't have scumbags who stand in a mosque and say that those who attacked London were so good that they are now in heaven enjoying beautiful virgins.
That's just sick !!
It encourages more terrorism.
Omrow
I am easy going.
But there are some subjects where I am not willing to give way.
The discussions are more serious at this time on the forums (mainly because of current events), and my responses are so too.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
LOL
the law makers are just prats..
when we were at school, college even.. everyone read up on the anarchists cookbook, its just one them them things u do..
u see i don't understand the stupidity of the government officials.. rather than prosecuting curious minds, why not prosecute the distributers of such materials?
it dont take a genius to work dat one out.
i mean, even the CIA has the Al-Quada training manual publicly available for download.. LOL
now this is what i see happening, a non muslim downloads the Al-Quada training manual or bomb making recipes, nahhh, he aint a threat.. he's just curious..
next a muslim gets arrested for preaching against the government, his pc gets used as evidence, they drop in a few training manuals, some porrn, and an anarchists cookbook.. bish bash bosh, the guys planning to blow up the world..
sometimes our own leaders just make make laugh, the laws are just stupid..
[b][i]Round and round the Ka'bah,
Like a good Sahabah,
One step, Two step,
All the way to jannah[/i][/b]
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that means that Mr Ed and Mr Admin need to be more strict from now on with their moderating
cant be giving extreme members like exHT and AbdusSalam second chances
apprently the home sec is gonna have talks with the muslim "leaders" again asking them their advice on what kind of preaching=inciting hatred and violence
We're heading down a dangerous road.
We don't want our Friday sermons to be censored.
salaam
i think all active msulims now will be watched and scrutinised. every article i write, everything published in the magazine and website will be under the spotlight. i suppose even our emails etc will be monitored....
but we on behalf of The Revival have nothing to worry about inshallah as we are not exremists and we do not have a misguided view of jihad like some do. we dont support terrorism in anyway, infact we openly condemn it.so we will carry on as we are inshallah.
wasalaam
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[size=18]Italian anti-terror law enacted[/size]
The lower house of the Italian parliament has approved new measures to combat the threat of terrorist attack, which means they have become law.
The bill includes surveillance of the internet and phone networks and making it easier to detain suspects.
[b]Those who hide their features from the public - including through wearing the Islamic burqa - also face punishment.[/b]
A number of Western countries have introduced extra measures after the London bombs this month.
The BBC's Jacky Rowland notes that explicit threats against Italy have appeared on a number of extremist websites.
Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi has rejected the theory that Italy is being targeted due to its presence in Iraq, where it has 3,000 troops.
The government has indicated that it plans to start withdrawing those troops next year.
[b]'Very satisfied'[/b]
Italy's upper house backed the bill on Friday.
The package of extra measures approved overwhelmingly by parliament includes:
* doubling to 24 hours the time suspects can be kept in custody without charge
* interrogating suspects without lawyers present
* strengthening of measures to prevent terrorists from financing their operations
* increasing penalties for carrying false documents
* compiling lists of mobile phone users to help police investigating suspected terrorist crime
[b] * up to two years in prison and a 2,000 euro (£1,379 or $2,424) fine for anyone who purposely hides their features by covering their faces in public.[/b]
Interior Minister Giuseppe Pisanu said after the vote that he was "very satisfied" with the overwhelming approval of the house.
There are growing fears that Italy could be the next target in Europe.
"The terrorist threat with Islamic origins has a world-wide dimension, it could materialise everywhere and no corner of the planet is immune," Mr Pisanu said.
The minister has said the Italian government has received no specific information of a strike.
However, about 13,000 sites around the country are being guarded against possible terrorist attack, including public buildings, embassies, ports, railway stations and the Vatican.
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