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Seraphim

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Starting again...

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Seraph

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Aphrodite — Tue, 20 Sep 2005 - 22:10

[quote="Darth V-Hayder"][quote="Omrow"][quote="Darth V-Hayder"]it is stated that the prophets number about 124,000, and the prophet-messengers are twenty-five.

Abi Dharr al-Ghifari (RA)... asked, "Oh Messenger of Allah, how many are there messengers?" He said "310 and a few more".

And in another narration of Imam Ahmed, from the narration of Abi Umaama, Abu Dharr asked, "Oh Messenger of Allah, how many are there prophets?" He said, "120,000 and between them 315 messengers."[/quote]

Though I am no Einstein, still I was good at mathematics.

I particularly liked addition and multiplication. It feels so nice to be able to add things. Two and two always made four.

However, today I have a problem.

Somehow, I cant add the numbers given above by Darth and get 124000.

Omrow[/quote]

what are you trying to add mousey?[/quote]

He's trying to be funny, D. It's not working

Dave — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 - 17:15

Whats up with the order of the Qur'an?

I understand that the first revealed chapter was 93 beginning with the word "Iqra!"

Is that true? And if that's the case why is it arranged the way it is?

Aphrodite — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 - 17:23

[quote="Constantine"]Whats up with the order of the Qur'an?

I understand that the first revealed chapter was 93 beginning with the word "Iqba!"

Is that true? And if that's the case why is it arranged the way it is?[/quote]

'Iqra', not 'Iqba'. 'Iqra' means 'read'

Aphrodite — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 - 17:32

[quote="Constantine"]Typo... but why is it out of order?[/quote]

Unsure, in all honesty. I shall ask my mummy and get back to you anon

Dave — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 - 17:39

[quote="Aphrodite"][quote="Constantine"]Typo... but why is it out of order?[/quote]

Unsure, in all honesty. I shall ask my mummy and get back to you anon[/quote]

That seems to be pretty important I would think.

God gave Muhammad his books in an order, I wouldn't think even Muhammad could be allowed to change that order without God telling him he could.

Aphrodite — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 - 17:41

[quote="Constantine"][quote="Aphrodite"][quote="Constantine"]Typo... but why is it out of order?[/quote]

Unsure, in all honesty. I shall ask my mummy and get back to you anon[/quote]

That seems to be pretty important I would think.

God gave Muhammad his books in an order, I wouldn't think even Muhammad could be allowed to change that order without God telling him he could.[/quote]

Oh, no... the Messenger )saw) WAS told by Allaah to rearrange and how... I just can't remember why.

You — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 - 18:02

The quran was revealed as needed.

If a situation arose, a verse(s) regarding to it would be revealed.

The Prophet would clarify where they fit.

Sirus — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 - 20:33

from what i know....

Hadhrat Abu Bakr or Usman ? (R.A)compiled the Quran in the order it appears today.

The Surahs were revealed individually, some in Makkah and some in Medina

correct me if im wrong anyone

Seraphim — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 - 21:15

[quote="Constantine"]So why did they change the order?[/quote]

Devine command.

In the order it is by the command of God all mighty.

Aphrodite — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 - 21:18

[b]"As for the order in which the Qur'an was compiled, without going into details, at least two arguments can be given, each of which on its own is a sufficient response to the question:

The significance of the first argument can be realised if we consider the answers to the questions:

1. Why should the Qur'an be compiled in chronological order? What is the particular significance of chronological compilation apart from the information of the order of revelation?

2. The same argument is applied to the question of compilation order by length of Surah.

The second argument being that the author of the Book - Allah Almighty - instructed His Messenger to compile it in the order it is.

Just as Allah Almighty revealed the various ayaat to His Messenger (S), He also revealed the position of each ayah/Surah to His Messenger (S). for example when a particular ayah was revealed to Rasulollah (S) – on a certain occasion – Archangel Gabriel also told Rasulollah (S) “The Almighty instructs you to place it (the ayah) as number 280 of Surah of The Cow. Such reports clearly indicate that even the order and the structure of the Holy Qur’an was dictated by Allah Almighty Exalted be He."[/b]

I forgot to ask my mum

Dave — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 - 21:19

So Muhammad was told to put them in a different order afterward?

Or Uthman and Bakr put it in a diff order?

You — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 - 21:56

As the verses were revealed, so was their positioning.

What was done later was actually writing them in the form of a book.

Previously it was written on separate parchments, and memorised in the correct order.

Dave — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 - 21:59

[quote="Admin"]As the verses were revealed, so was their positioning.

What was done later was actually writing them in the form of a book.

Previously it was written on separate parchments, and memorised in the correct order.[/quote]

Was there ever a reason provided why they were revealed out of order?

You — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 - 22:09

They were revealed as needed.

In answer to events.

The quran was not revealed as a big book all in one go.

Neither in a way that it was irrelevant.

And there is also the fact that making a society takes time.

Take alcohol.

First there was a verse saying alcohol was disliked.

Then another saying do not approach prayer when drunk.

Finally when the community was acclimatised, the final order forbidding the consumption of alcohol, saying there was more harm than good in it.

You — Thu, 22 Sep 2005 - 21:54

Did you know some baby fish do not sleep? I read in the paper some fish don't sleep for atleast their first month...

Aphrodite — Thu, 22 Sep 2005 - 21:55

[quote="Admin"]Did you know some baby fish do not sleep? I read in the paper some fish don't sleep for atleast their first month...[/quote]

Can you blame them? Their own mothers would eat them if given the chance, they need to stay alert!

Dave — Thu, 22 Sep 2005 - 21:59

[quote="Aphrodite"]In North Carolina, it is against the law for dogs and cats to fight.[/quote]

huh?

Aphrodite — Thu, 22 Sep 2005 - 22:04

Oh. Ohhhh, I get it now. We're typing facts and you're typing jokes

Next time, warn us there's a joke coming and we'll laugh with you 😛