14 Pillars of Prayer

LookingToSee โ€”

pillars of PRAYER (not Islam, thank you TPofS) if you miss any of them out, for whatever reason, then the prayer is invalid. and missing any pillar cannot be compensated by thr sujood of distraction. You have to redo the prayer.

  1. standing
  2. opening takbeer - Takbiratul Ihraam
  3. Reciting Suratul Fatihah
  4. Rukoo'
  5. Rising from Rukoo'
  6. Sujood on seven bones
  7. Rising from Sujood
  8. Sitting calmly between sujoods
  9. Being tranquil and calm during each pillar
  10. Doing the pillars in order
  11. The Last Tashaahud
  12. Sitting during the last Tashahud
  13. Sending Salaah and salaam on nabi (pbuh)
  14. The Final Tasleem

lollywood โ€” Wed, 5 Oct 2011 - 21:41

[quote=Metallica58]what do you understand about surat luqman verse 6??

i hope you have a quran ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

and please tll me what you think

I love music soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much, but im afraid really scareed that it could be haram...[/quote]

Not sure about what surat luqman says but I love listening to music as well

Metallica58 (not verified) โ€” Wed, 5 Oct 2011 - 21:43

okay well it says:

Those who puchase Idle talk, without any knowlegde to mislead from the path of Allah, and does it by a way of mokery, for such will be a humiliating torment.

so what is idle talk????

and is the hadith true??

lollywood โ€” Wed, 5 Oct 2011 - 21:57

[quote=Metallica58]
so what is idle talk????
[/quote]

It means talk of no value or something along those lines

[quote=Metallica58]
and is the hadith true??[/quote]

It must be

Metallica58 (not verified) โ€” Wed, 5 Oct 2011 - 22:07

it must be...

so, just so you know.

The prohet ๏ทบ said: among my followers there will be those who, drink alchohol, do adulery, wearing of silk and use of musical instruments as leagal.

so...

talkof no value, so you cant like scream...

lollywood โ€” Wed, 5 Oct 2011 - 22:28

[quote=Metallica58]
adulery,
[/quote]

What's that?

its Adultery
you seem very young

Metallica58 (not verified) โ€” Wed, 5 Oct 2011 - 22:30

oh sorry, misspealed it

but really, what do you think of the Hadith???????????????????

the PROPTHET ๏ทบ said that... is it tru

You โ€” Wed, 5 Oct 2011 - 22:31

@ Metallica, why are you asking so many questions following a line when you simply outsright rejected my link to a scholars opinion on this just a few posts earlier?

No matter what the opinions are, music is not important enough to waste your life over - especially if you are all consumed by it like you suggest you are.

lollywood โ€” Wed, 5 Oct 2011 - 22:40

[quote=Metallica58]oh sorry, misspealed it
[/quote]

You even misspelled misspelled could it get any worse?

Metallica58 (not verified) โ€” Wed, 5 Oct 2011 - 22:50

-_- I TYPE FAST get it?

''You, well dude im not wasting my life, im still working and playing with my family but im asking you is iiiiiiiittttttttttt haram? and why?

and waht do you think about the Sourat: luqman,31 verse,6?????

lollywood โ€” Wed, 5 Oct 2011 - 23:01

[quote=Metallica58]-_- I TYPE FAST get it?
[/quote]

You were miles away from the correct spelling

[quote=Metallica58]Misspealed
[/quote]

[quote=lollywood]Misspelled
[/quote]

Get it?

Metallica58 (not verified) โ€” Wed, 5 Oct 2011 - 23:18

okay okay,

I will type, without any mistakes.

Now, is it true? The Luqman Surat verse 6?

and can we draw??? im not saying that I have the power to create , just drawing. like a tree or somebody or nature..

You โ€” Wed, 5 Oct 2011 - 23:45

The link I posted covers exactly that.

If you cant read it for an immediate answer, you have no hope in this world.

Remember that even for your musical stuff, there are queues and waiting and you don't seem to have the patience for such things.

Metallica58 (not verified) โ€” Wed, 5 Oct 2011 - 23:54

you know what?

GO READ SURAT LUQMAN 31, VERSE 6 AND TELL ME WHAT DOES IT MEAN

Metallica58 (not verified) โ€” Wed, 5 Oct 2011 - 23:56

im asking YOU YOOOOOOOUUUUUU WHAT DO YOUUUUUUUUU THINK????

You โ€” Thu, 6 Oct 2011 - 01:30

Just read the link,

The suggested translation is that it means either a combinaton or "an excess in use of musical insruments" as opposed to a blanket ban.

But even with that definition, your position could be close to or way past the line.

TPOS โ€” Thu, 6 Oct 2011 - 07:25

[quote=Metallica58]im asking YOU YOOOOOOOUUUUUU WHAT DO YOUUUUUUUUU THINK????[/quote]OMD
Why are you asking him/us when 'You' is providing you an answer from a scholar?!

Foysol89 โ€” Thu, 6 Oct 2011 - 16:47

[quote=Ya'qub]didn't know there was a hadith about television[/quote]

They're not regarding television per se but the whole point of having ahadith was for the future generations, so that we could apply the same sunnaan of the prophet ๏ทบ in our modern life.

So the ahadith about lowerering your gaze, what you should avoid listening to etc. should also be applied when one is watching TV, listening to music....and so on. Would also like to point out that the same rules that apply outside in public/private also apply online or atleast one should look into it.

I'm no expert on interpreting ahadith so i can't really tell you whether TV is haram or not, for that you should go to a scholar you trust.

@Lilly i apologise for the hijacking of your thread (i blame Metallicdude) i wasn't gonna reply but you did first. Maybe we should just have a new thread for MetalicDude since he never stays on one topic :/

Metallica58 (not verified) โ€” Fri, 7 Oct 2011 - 02:32

what?

guys anyways, MUSIC IN 100% NOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTT HARAM.

TV either, but ONLY if it distraces you from prayer and other stuff.

lower my gaze and watch TV??? whaaatt?? I dont undertstand

Foysol89 โ€” Fri, 7 Oct 2011 - 04:15

[quote=ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE](he was being sarcastic)[/quote]

Thought so.......but just incase

[quote]How are u meant to lower your gaze AND watch tv?[/quote]

Not literally :/ I mean you need to be in control of what you watch, if you know there's gonna be certain fitnah on a programme then you simply avoid watching that programme.

Plus it helps you avoid that awkward asian moment ("oiiii where's the remote?", "Change the channell" *awkward silence + nobody makes eye contact* and my favourite one, start a random convo about anything to avoid awkwardness e.g. "was this room always painted white?", "yo u wanna go shopping tomorrow" or " i killed a cat today" << if you can't think of anything else) ๐Ÿ˜‚

You get my point though?

Ya'qub โ€” Fri, 7 Oct 2011 - 14:51

Stop either killing cats or lying about killing cats!

And that awkwardness occurs in EVERY family, not just asian

TPOS โ€” Fri, 7 Oct 2011 - 15:46

[quote=Ya'qub]

And that awkwardness occurs in EVERY family, not just asian[/quote] even if it's "just" a kiss?

_Me_ โ€” Fri, 7 Oct 2011 - 18:32

[quote=Metallica58]

I love music soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much, but im afraid really scareed that it could be haram...[/quote]

I listen to music as well (not addicted lol) but in my opinion, I don't think listening to music is haraam unless it leads to evil temptations and doings. BUT, I'm pretty sure its not?! :S

Metallica58 (not verified) โ€” Fri, 7 Oct 2011 - 18:37

HEY GUYS, question:

I want to go with my friend at the mall... and it delays a little bit the asr time, and we cant go other times because we have to go to school for a thing, and its friday, deos it HAVE to me with many many peaple or 2 is = to a congregation, because his dad told him DONT GO TO THE MOSQUE, WHY? dont know

so just delaying it ... and making other extras, and not going too much, is it okay?????????????????????????????

Metallica58 (not verified) โ€” Sat, 8 Oct 2011 - 03:42

tey say that drawing animate object are haram...
but Im NOT saying that I have th epower to create im just like making a dude (spongebob,mickey mouse, ) you know like cartoons... and the hadith... is it the hadit writenn by the prophet(saw)???

or is it written in the coran?

You โ€” Sat, 8 Oct 2011 - 15:22

hadith are the sayings of the prophet ๏ทบ that were recorded down the line.

The qur'an is revelation from God.

Both are important.

It is possible to do art without drawing living things - look at the art styles of the middle east for 1400 years, it is quite good.

Metallica58 (not verified) โ€” Sat, 8 Oct 2011 - 17:15

not ALL hadiths, because some say that music is haram... why? becauses its written, well give me a reason!!

okay but you know spongebob, or the simpsons, those are cartoons, theyr living things, im just watching to get a some fun I dont BEIELIVE that they exist...

and why ONLY living things? because its the creation of Allah(swt) right? well trees, mountains are not the creation of Allah (swt) to?

TPOS โ€” Sat, 8 Oct 2011 - 17:35

[quote=Metallica58]not ALL hadiths, because some say that music is haram... why? becauses its written, well give me a reason!!

okay but you know spongebob, or the simpsons, those are cartoons, theyr living things, im just watching to get a some fun I dont BEIELIVE that they exist...

and why ONLY living things? because its the creation of Allah(swt) right? well trees, mountains are not the creation of Allah (swt) to?[/quote]
Just because you dont like them, doesn't mean they don't exist.