What is the most important when considering (making?) a marriage proposal

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You wrote:
like mould?

yes, it is something that can be overlooked etc, but I think the vote of only 17% choosing beauty on here seems a little low. Either that or I am way more... shallow than most.

LOOL! No not like mould, more like flowers in the spring (I have a thing about flowers in the spring lol)

I think that beauty is important but just not AS important..

Jihad of the Nafs (The Struggle of the Soul)

It has to be a really comfortable partnership transcending checkboxes, she could have all the beauty, faith, respect and money and be a nice person to boot and the relationship could yet fall short, whereas you might strike up a relationship with someone who has none of the above. You never know.

  • It can never be satisfied, the mind, never. -- Wallace Stevens

Lol @ Omrow...family criminal record?

Out of the four options, I chose beauty. I thought respect was about social standing so I dropped that. Future prospects were important until I realised you meant financial prospects - that's just wrong. So it was out of beauty and faith, and really for me, vibes and personality would be more important.

Faith is great, but when we say faith we no longer understand "well rounded individual who values social relations as much as spiritual ones" instead we understand "someone who prays a lot". Given that, I felt beauty was more all encompassing. At the end of the day though, its still 'personality and vibes.'

Gentleness and kindness were never a part of anything except that it made it beautiful, and harshness was never a part of anything except that it made it ugly.

Through cheating, stealing, and lying, one may get required results but finally one becomes

Is ti me or does Omronius seem to have calmed down?

Has he been tamed by some woman out there? Shok

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

He's going soft in his old age! ;P I'd like her to be a good role model, who respects me and I respect her, she's gotta be gentle and caring. Ofcourse I've got to find her attractive, so she should be beautiful in both senses. Also someone who tries to follow the commandments of Islam, and someone who can inspire me to be a better Muslim and a better man.

“Before death takes away what you are given, give away whatever there is to give.”

Mawlana Jalal ud Din Rumi

"role model" ???

That is probably the last thing any person should be or want to be.

You should do things either because you want to or because you feel they are right (preferably in that order) and not because you think you will make a good example for others to follow.

Offtopic, but the worst type of role models is kids - they have not gained wisdom and have enthusiasm, so especially adults will put them on pedestals, not realising how the enthusiasm often makes the role they are modelling unhinged and unbalanced. That is only found out years later when the role model falls from grace.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

For men is beauty, for women it's $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Never have I dealt with anything more difficult than my own soul, which sometimes helps me and sometimes opposes me.
-Imam Al-Ghazali

as i said earlier as well in my blog, it is most important that a girl
is a shia coz shia females make best marriage partner.
other girls too are ok, but you just cant beat a shia woman as a wife. they are the best soul males ever. i like this girl who studies with me, but i wont marry her unless she agrees to convert and become a shia muslim.

Ayatollah rightly named America as "Great Satan".

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Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?

zdc wrote:
For men is beauty, for women it's $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

you have obviously studied women for years and/or can read their mind.

-_-"

Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?

malik wrote:
as i said earlier as well in my blog, it is most important that a girl
is a shia coz shia females make best marriage partner.
other girls too are ok, but you just cant beat a shia woman as a wife. they are the best soul males ever. i like this girl who studies with me, but i wont marry her unless she agrees to convert and become a shia muslim.

Would that mean you're a Shiatte Muslim then?
I'm Shaitte by genes, and know everyone needed to know about Shiattes,but practice Sunni law, does that make me an ideal wife?

Love is a serious mental disease.

For me the most important hings upon making a proposal is the sincerity and respect. these are both essential in making such action as these can bring full light and life to your next journey as a couple.

Lilly wrote:
malik meeet zdc
zdc meet malik
have fun
ciao

Thanks for the intro..

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Never have I dealt with anything more difficult than my own soul, which sometimes helps me and sometimes opposes me.
-Imam Al-Ghazali

malik wrote:
as i said earlier as well in my blog, it is most important that a girl
is a shia coz shia females make best marriage partner.
other girls too are ok, but you just cant beat a shia woman as a wife. they are the best soul males ever. i like this girl who studies with me, but i wont marry her unless she agrees to convert and become a shia muslim.

WAKE UP, A wife is wife, don't come here with all your shia crap, make better wives and all dat. I heard some nasty things about shia gals which I won't mention here. If shia gals are just soooooo good then why the heck you eyeing a sunni gal? Cos shia gals are crap. Go sing you shia song in Iran cos I have a very small appetite for your type.

If this is what they do to their kids, imagine what they will do to the poor husband.
(Link not for the faint hearted.)

Never have I dealt with anything more difficult than my own soul, which sometimes helps me and sometimes opposes me.
-Imam Al-Ghazali

Lilly wrote:
zdc wrote:
For men is beauty, for women it's $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

you have obviously studied women for years and/or can read their mind.

-_-"

No need for any of that, just pure observation.

Never have I dealt with anything more difficult than my own soul, which sometimes helps me and sometimes opposes me.
-Imam Al-Ghazali

Seraphim wrote:
Culinary skills Biggrin

I cant believe no one thinks this is an important skill.
Food doesnt magically appear outta no where you know ¬_¬

Its really disappointing how parents are putting less and less emphasis on teaching their kids how to make food (guys and girls)

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Seraphim wrote:
Seraphim wrote:
Culinary skills Biggrin

I cant believe no one thinks this is an important skill.
Food doesnt magically appear outta no where you know ¬_¬

Its really disappointing how parents are putting less and less emphasis on teaching their kids how to make food (guys and girls)

Who the heck is gonna cook when they'er both working?? No time for that.
You gotta support the take away guys too you know.

Never have I dealt with anything more difficult than my own soul, which sometimes helps me and sometimes opposes me.
-Imam Al-Ghazali

zdc wrote:
Seraphim wrote:
Seraphim wrote:
Culinary skills Biggrin

I cant believe no one thinks this is an important skill.
Food doesnt magically appear outta no where you know ¬_¬

Its really disappointing how parents are putting less and less emphasis on teaching their kids how to make food (guys and girls)

Who the heck is gonna cook when they'er both working?? No time for that.
You gotta support the take away guys too you know.

Unless your workin 24 hours a day, im sure you'll make time when you begin to starve.
Takeaway food is always gonna be sh1t anyway.
Something home cooked is waaay better.

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Seraphim wrote:
Unless your workin 24 hours a day, im sure you'll make time when you begin to starve.
Takeaway food is always gonna be sh1t anyway.
Something home cooked is waaay better.

The modern fraternity of muslimahs, believe, sh1t or not, JUST EAT IT.

Never have I dealt with anything more difficult than my own soul, which sometimes helps me and sometimes opposes me.
-Imam Al-Ghazali

zdc wrote:
Seraphim wrote:
Unless your workin 24 hours a day, im sure you'll make time when you begin to starve.
Takeaway food is always gonna be sh1t anyway.
Something home cooked is waaay better.

The modern fraternity of muslimahs, believe, sh1t or not, JUST EAT IT.

No thanx i dont eat sh1t lol

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Seraphim wrote:
zdc wrote:
Seraphim wrote:
Unless your workin 24 hours a day, im sure you'll make time when you begin to starve.
Takeaway food is always gonna be sh1t anyway.
Something home cooked is waaay better.

The modern fraternity of muslimahs, believe, sh1t or not, JUST EAT IT.

No thanx i dont eat sh1t lol

Get married, then you'll see, you won't just eat sh1t, you'll even pay for it.

Never have I dealt with anything more difficult than my own soul, which sometimes helps me and sometimes opposes me.
-Imam Al-Ghazali

zdc wrote:
Who the heck is gonna cook when they'er both working?? No time for that.

The woman can do that. If she doesn't have time then she'll have to make some time.

zdc wrote:
Seraphim wrote:

No thanx i dont eat sh1t lol

Get married, then you'll see, you won't just eat sh1t, you'll even pay for it.

LOL why would he eat shit when he can jsut cook for himself?1

"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi

It annoyes me when ppl describe some women as "gold diggers"

cos at the end of the day
a woman always marries a man who will support her financally
its always been like that

and similarly
men marry for looks
theyll even marry a girl thats under 12
Lord knows what u can do with a small child, its gross

but
thats the way of the world unfortunately

1R4M wrote:
It annoyes me when ppl describe some women as "gold diggers"

cos at the end of the day
a woman always marries a man who will support her financally
its always been like that


It's just the truth.

"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi

MuslimBro wrote:
zdc wrote:
Who the heck is gonna cook when they'er both working?? No time for that.

The woman can do that. If she doesn't have time then she'll have to make some time.

You sexist pi., HOW DARE YOU!!

RESPECT WOMAN! THEY ARE NOT MEANT TO SERVE YOU! (Just giving u hint of what you're in for from our very respectable, muslimah's)

Ok muslimah's fire away, rub his nose is brown, soft,mushy stuff.

Never have I dealt with anything more difficult than my own soul, which sometimes helps me and sometimes opposes me.
-Imam Al-Ghazali

zdc wrote:
Seraphim wrote:
zdc wrote:
Seraphim wrote:
Unless your workin 24 hours a day, im sure you'll make time when you begin to starve.
Takeaway food is always gonna be sh1t anyway.
Something home cooked is waaay better.

The modern fraternity of muslimahs, believe, sh1t or not, JUST EAT IT.

No thanx i dont eat sh1t lol

Get married, then you'll see, you won't just eat sh1t, you'll even pay for it.

Are you talking from experience or is this part of your general BS that you come out with?

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1R4M wrote:
It annoyes me when ppl describe some women as "gold diggers"

Haha, no way, they aint diggers, we gotta dig it out for them, and turn it into jewellery. Digging is beneath their dignity. No way.

Never have I dealt with anything more difficult than my own soul, which sometimes helps me and sometimes opposes me.
-Imam Al-Ghazali

Seraphim wrote:

Are you talking from experience or is this part of your general BS that you come out with?

The power of observation, you don't have to put your hand in the fire to see someone burning, you use your eyes for that.

Never have I dealt with anything more difficult than my own soul, which sometimes helps me and sometimes opposes me.
-Imam Al-Ghazali

zdc wrote:
Seraphim wrote:

Are you talking from experience or is this part of your general BS that you come out with?

The power of observation, you don't have to put your hand in the fire to see someone burning, you use your eyes for that.

In that case, i think you should wait till you've put your eyes in the fire.
Coz i think you need more practice at making observations.

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