Birthdays...HARAAAAAAAAM???

Sumaiya —

No im joking about the title, I just wanna find out what you guys think of it and wether you celebrate it and if its HARAAAAAAAAAAM!

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You — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 - 19:54

[quote=Ya'qub][quote=You]How/Why?

It is not as if the wisher thinks that the person will get something outside the control of Allah (swt) [because there isn't any such thing]?[/quote]

Well why say 'best of luck'/'good luck' if you believe that Allah (swt) is control of everything?[/quote]

manners.

Better that than saying "you're gonna fail!" because that is what you mean - bar something you are not aware of, the person has a high likelihood of failing in the task.

I would define "Luck" as anything that is out of my control. As for the dictionary meaning, I would qualify it. Just like terms have different meanings in lay terms and in scientific circles, the terms can have different meanings for muslims and Non-muslims. As for the dictionary meaning, under that definition (no matter if you believe in God Almighty, or don't), there is no such thing as luck as everything has a cause and consequence. Everything.

@ 'Ed - you are SHOUTING AT PEOPLE WHILE TELLING THEM TO CHILL OUT. NOT COOL - ALSO A LITTLE HYPOCRITICAL AS THE TEXT IS IMPLYING THAT YOU ARE DOING WHAT YOU ARE TELLING OTHERS NOT TO DO.

Oh, and people we should heed the warnings of Judge Mez. maybe take this discussion into a new topic?

Sajid Iqbal — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 - 23:00

@ 'Ed - you are SHOUTING AT PEOPLE WHILE TELLING THEM TO CHILL OUT. NOT COOL - ALSO A LITTLE HYPOCRITICAL AS THE TEXT IS IMPLYING THAT YOU ARE DOING WHAT YOU ARE TELLING OTHERS NOT TO DO.

who's shouting?

i use capitals alot without realising
so before u call me a hypocrite................................ its ok. forget it

Ya'qub — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 - 23:10

[quote=You]
Oh, and people we should heed the warnings of Judge Mez. maybe take this discussion into a new topic?[/quote]

Admin, I don't know how to split topics, could you?

xSmurfy786x — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 - 00:23

[quote=Mecca Da Lyrical Berretta]It's my birthday today :)[/quote]

Awww, well late Happy Birthday!

lets throw a big party!! and Sumaiya is special guest 😃 wooop

Ya'qub — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 - 00:35

[quote=xSmurfy786x][quote=Mecca Da Lyrical Berretta]It's my birthday today :)[/quote]

Awww, well late Happy Birthday!

lets throw a big party!! and Sumaiya is special guest 😃 wooop
[/quote]

ok thats a bit unfair. Sumaiya didn't say birthdays were haram, she ASKED IF they were haram. the topic of this thread is 'birthdays, haram???'

xSmurfy786x — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 - 16:33

[quote=love to live but living to die][quote=Ya'qub][quote=xSmurfy786x][quote=Mecca Da Lyrical Berretta]It's my birthday today :)[/quote]

Awww, well late Happy Birthday!

lets throw a big party!! and Sumaiya is special guest 😃 wooop
[/quote]

ok thats a bit unfair. Sumaiya didn't say birthdays were haram, she ASKED IF they were haram. the topic of this thread is 'birthdays, haram???'[/quote]

Correction its>> "Birthdays...HARAAAAAAAAM???"[/quote]

heyyy i was onlyy joking!