I dont think segregation is actually demanded by Islam - it is just a convenience allowing women (and men) to observe the rules of hijab and modesty more easily, as especially for women, the rules of hijab are less strict when there are no men around.

1. Allah says: "And when you ask the ladies for anything, ask them from before a screen. That makes for greater purity for your hearts and for theirs." [Surah al-Ahzab: 53] For women to go about uncovered in the company of men is inarguably a gross violation of the command given in this verse.

No one is arguing that women should go uncovered. being uncovered is a different argument from segregation.

Saying that, segregation does relax the rules for women here as they need to be less covered infront of other women. But as said, it is something that makes things easier, not something that is enforced.

2. It is prohibited for men to join women in one place in the absence of at least one of the women's close male relatives. The Prophet (peace be upon him) forbade men and women from being alone together. He said: "Never is a man alone with a woman except that Satan is the third party with them."

The hadith says dont be alone together. That is different from segregation, which is not mixing in any way ever.

3. Once the Prophet (peace be upon him) saw men and women mixing together on the road upon their departure from the mosque. He said to the women: "Hold back a bit. You do not have to walk in the middle of the road. You may keep to the sides." The narrator of the hadith commented that after that time, women would come so close to the buildings that their dresses would sometime cling to the walls." [Sunan Abi Dawud with a sound chain of transmission]

Once again, it does not ban them from the streets.

The ahadith mentioned in the posts do not enforce segregation. They prohibit other things, like losing modesty, being alone in the company of a stanger of the opposite gender etc, but this is not the same as segregation.

Anonymous.... wrote:

It is haraam. And young children should not be encouraged to play with the opposite gender but its not haraam as their sins do not count till they've started puberty. It's not about what I think or say you its what Islam says

if it was haraam, people would refrain from it, including u but u urself said uve attended a mixed college!

But I don't think I know any nurseries that aren't mixed.

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

But I don't think I know any nurseries that aren't mixed.

lmao!!!

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

But I don't think I know any nurseries that aren't mixed.

Maybe we should start opening them then,get the little children to learn that they have to stay away from boys. And in that light, we should not allow the small female children to go their uncles, grandads and cousins which do not come under the catergory of mehram...you know train them from a young age...

I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic there or not...

Bijou wrote:

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

But I don't think I know any nurseries that aren't mixed.

Maybe we should start opening them then,get the little children to learn that they have to stay away from boys. And in that light, we should not allow the small female children to go their uncles, grandads and cousins which do not come under the catergory of mehram...you know train them from a young age...

uncles and gradads do come under mahram :/

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

Bijou wrote:

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

But I don't think I know any nurseries that aren't mixed.

Maybe we should start opening them then,get the little children to learn that they have to stay away from boys. And in that light, we should not allow the small female children to go their uncles, grandads and cousins which do not come under the catergory of mehram...you know train them from a young age...

uncles and gradads do come under mahram :/

Not all of them.

I was being sarcastic lol Sorry, I guess my sense of humour today is at a downfall...

Bijou wrote:

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

uncles and gradads do come under mahram :/

Not all of them.

you mean "uncles" then? those who aren't actually the parents brother?

And my aunty and uncle actually tell my little cousins to not be friends with boys at school or talk to them or accept xmas cards from them. I find it really weird and OTT. Like yesterday my cousin brought home cards she'd been given and one was from a boy and her mum goes to her
"I told you not to take take cards from boys"
and she was like
"dad said just take it but throw it n the bin when you get home" so her mum was like ok then.
Then her mum goes to her little sister (3)
"should you be friends with boys?"
and she was like "no you should be friends with girls only"
It was like some sort of script or like robot talk lol

and then my aunty talking to herself curses boys and says "they lead them astray"
and I thought WOAH!

I mean fair enough you can instil the fact that girls and boys shouldn't get close etc and telling them to stay away from each other will stop them from doing that but I just found it quite extreme.

I don't ever remember being told not to be friends with boys like that (I may have been but I don't remember it and I doubt it was said in such a way - I know i still have cards from boys in my class in like yr6 or something! at the same time i wasn't encouraged to do it either, I just knew my boundaries.

Maybe if you put such a constraint on children they will do the opposite of what you expect them to do? Like instead of staying away from the unknown, trying it out, see what its all about and so leading to more trouble as they haven't fully understood the reason behind what you're asking them to do or maybe they might just rebel. :/

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

Bijou wrote:

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

uncles and gradads do come under mahram :/

Not all of them.

you mean "uncles" then? those who aren't actually the parents brother?

And my aunty and uncle actually tell my little cousins to not be friends with boys at school or talk to them or accept xmas cards from them. I find it really weird and OTT. Like yesterday my cousin brought home cards she'd been given and one was from a boy and her mum goes to her
"I told you not to take take cards from boys"
and she was like
"dad said just take it but throw it n the bin when you get home" so her mum was like ok then.
Then her mum goes to her little sister (3)
"should you be friends with boys?"
and she was like "no you should be friends with girls only"
It was like some sort of script or like robot talk lol

and then my aunty talking to herself curses boys and says "they lead them astray"
and I thought WOAH!

I mean fair enough you can instil the fact that girls and boys shouldn't get close etc and telling them to stay away from each other will stop them from doing that but I just found it quite extreme.

I don't ever remember being told not to be friends with boys like that (I may have been but I don't remember it and I doubt it was said in such a way - I know i still have cards from boys in my class in like yr6 or something! at the same time i wasn't encouraged to do it either, I just knew my boundaries.

Maybe if you put such a constraint on children they will do the opposite of what you expect them to do? Like instead of staying away from the unknown, trying it out, see what its all about and so leading to more trouble as they haven't fully understood the reason behind what you're asking them to do or maybe they might just rebel. :/

Yes, I meant uncles who are not the brothers of your dad.

Lol your aunt seems a little OTT like you said, however, although I was being sarcastic with the previous comment about segregated nurseries, I do think it is important for children to realise from a young age that they should not mix too much.

The only reason I think it could be useful to teach this lesson as a younger age is because when children get older they will start asking things like:

' well you used to let me play with them when I was small, whats wrong now? I'm still small, I'm not an adult you know'

And this is when problems start happening and questions being raised. Like everything there is a limit and boundaries.

In terms of your aunt, well she just seems quit obsessive tbh. What's wrong with accepting cards? You can take it, make the other person happy because it is similar to a gift being given...

Anyway, I guess all parents have their own ways of parenting, God when I get my kids I will also have to go through this stage...Urg! Can't wait.

Well not necessarily
u learn as u grow older that that u cant do things that u did wen u were children

I dont understand how someone can say that children shouldnt play together

what kind of world must u be living in

There's nowhere in Islam that says men and women hav to remain segregated etc

whats the point of wearing a hijab then
u only do that in front of men
not women or ur own family

this is why there are rules about modesty
so that when you are in a mixed gathering
you remain decent and safe etc