I'm not sure.

I was called a terrorist because I said I didn't want to go to the pub for yet another mindless piss-up.

Lol 

Depends what you mean by racism. I mean people intepret racist gestures/comments in different ways? Maybe that's just me, but I've voted 'No' because I can't ever remember being a victim of racism. I guess I'm not one to take notice of such things anyway if it does/doesn't occur.

To the high % of people who have experienced racism....

Don't sit back and take it.

Especially when there is someone willing to make your voice heard and make sure something is done about it.

Tell MAMA.....

http://tellmamauk.org/

I voted 'No' too, because i don't think i ever have.

-

There was this one time, when we stopped at the service station, and you know how you can enter a car park space and then there's a possibility that there's another car space infront of that one too. Yeah, well we had one of those situations, so my dad decided to take the space that was infront. As soon as he turned the car off, an elderly man was looking for space, so my dad switched the car back on and reversed into the space behind. 

Once he'd parked, he came along to my dad's window, in the heavy rain with his colourful umbrella and said 'Thanks sir, I wouldn't have done the same thing for you'. I don't know if this was something to do with 'being considerate about fellow drivers at a service station', 'not being bothered' or he wouldn't have done the same thing because my dad was clearly a Muslim and had a different ethnicity as opposed to 'White'. (I don't know if you can class this as being 'racist' though, 'cause he didn't use any racist terms AT all).

I will suggest that every person of every race has suffered racism.

A better internal question IMO is "have I ever been racist?" and then confront that as inshallah the answer will make us all better people.

[quote=You]I will suggest that every person of every race has suffered racism.

A better internal question IMO is "have I ever been racist?" and then confront that as inshallah the answer will make us all better people.[/quote]

+1

have i ever been racist? not in a serious way. but is it even ok in a jokey way?

I asked this question after finding out that two of the Prophet ﷺ milk mothers were African. I already knew about Umm Ayman (rA) but thus refreshed my memory. The second was Thuwayba (rA) - she's also *that* slave of Abu Lahab who gave the news of the birth of the prophet ﷺ an he freed her right there and then. But she stayed close to the family and nursed the prophet ﷺ and later did accept Islam. She was also the nurse mother of Hamza (rA) the uncle of the Prophet ﷺ

Most people that come on here are probably Asian and may have felt racism by others. But Asians can be racist to others too, and have some sort of superiority complex. The most mind-boggling one is Indians, pakistanis and Bangalis being racist to each other. I cam understand being proud and happy of your background and wanting to not be mistaken for someone else, but some people take it too far!

I think there are certain beliefs people grow up with, certain things people around them say and the more it'd repeated, it's accepted. So not everyone may be overtly racist and discriminate, but I think there are more people who hold prejudices, tbh I have done. But I'm not so close minded that I will always hold the same opinion of a person regardless of how they appear to be. And I know there are a lot of stereotypes of people and I wouldn't be racist, it's just some things are "built" into your head and take time to take out completely. (I sound bad? :$ )

If we all learn and remind ourselves of Islamic teachings and the real life examples of Islam then I'm sure we can be better people! In this case, the milk mothers of the Prophet ﷺ were African - this is despite the fact that the Arabs were so proud of being Arab and the Quraish being of the best Arabs etc. This was the divine decree - an example for makind that Blacks are not superior or inferior to White. And if an African woman can have the privilege of being called "mother" (as the prophet ﷺ called Umm Ayman) then who is anyone else to say anything! SubhanAllah.

[quote=TPOS]I asked this question after finding out that two of the Prophet ﷺ milk mothers were African. I already knew about Umm Ayman (rA) but thus refreshed my memory. The second was Thuwayba (rA) - she's also *that* slave of Abu Lahab who gave the news of the birth of the prophet ﷺ an he freed her right there and then. But she stayed close to the family and nursed the prophet ﷺ and later did accept Islam. She was also the nurse mother of Hamza (rA) the uncle of the Prophet ﷺ

Most people that come on here are probably Asian and may have felt racism by others. But Asians can be racist to others too, and have some sort of superiority complex. The most mind-boggling one is Indians, pakistanis and Bangalis being racist to each other. I cam understand being proud and happy of your background and wanting to not be mistaken for someone else, but some people take it too far!

I think there are certain beliefs people grow up with, certain things people around them say and the more it'd repeated, it's accepted. So not everyone may be overtly racist and discriminate, but I think there are more people who hold prejudices, tbh I have done. But I'm not so close minded that I will always hold the same opinion of a person regardless of how they appear to be. And I know there are a lot of stereotypes of people and I wouldn't be racist, it's just some things are "built" into your head and take time to take out completely. (I sound bad? :$ )

If we all learn and remind ourselves of Islamic teachings and the real life examples of Islam then I'm sure we can be better people! In this case, the milk mothers of the Prophet ﷺ were African - this is despite the fact that the Arabs were so proud of being Arab and the Quraish being of the best Arabs etc. This was the divine decree - an example for makind that Blacks are not superior or inferior to White. And if an African woman can have the privilege of being called "mother" (as the prophet ﷺ called Umm Ayman) then who is anyone else to say anything! SubhanAllah.[/quote]

“Abu Dharr, the leader of the tribe of Ghifar, and one who accepted Islam in its early days, narrates:

Once I was conversing with Bilal. Our conversation gave way to a dispute. Angry with him, the following insult burst from my mouth: ‘You cannot comprehend this, O son of a black woman!’

As Islam expressly forbade all kinds of racial, tribal and color discrimination, Bilal was both upset and greatly angered.

Some time later, a man came and told me that the Messenger of God, upon him be peace and blessings, summoned me. I went to him immediately. Hesaid to me:

‘I have been informed that you addressed Bilal as the son of a black woman.’

I was deeply ashamed and could say nothing. God’s Messenger continued his reprimand: ‘This means you still retain the standards and judgements of the pre-Islamic days of ignorance. Islam has eradicated all those false standards or measures judging people by blood, fame, color or wealth. It has established that the best and most honorable of men is he who is the most pious and upright in conduct. Is it right to defame a believer just because he is black?’

Abu Dharr felt profound remorse. He went straight to Bilal’s house and, putting his head on the threshold, said: ‘This head will not rise from here until the blessed feet of Bilal tread on the face of foolish, impolite Abu Dharr.’

Bilal responded: ‘That face deserves to be kissed, not trodden upon,’ and forgave Abu Dharr.”

[video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atvA3vsK0S0]

Devine (1989) suggested that stereotypes can be automatically activated even in low-prejudice people. However those with low prejudice are able to over-ride the stereotypes.

I'm normal. 

what ?

Fifi...what is this??

Define fair. 🙂

Why has more people voted 'Yes' !!??!!

today revvy is agonizingly slow.

that aside, we shld also define "life" no?

but if i include afterlife as part of life then yeah its fair, coz in afterlife everything gets balanced out.

you shouldve put another option

forums such as islamic awakening, ummah forums and others are better thats why

although thats noit my reason i personally think its slow

and because its sufi related

Sorry, that exact thing didn't come to mind, but I'm guessing it is one or some of the above factors which play atleast play some part in making this website worse, in your opinion?

(And you using that option, if there was one, would not be valid since you still do post on here)

EDIT: I saw Abuela's second reply after posting mine.

[quote=TPOS]Sorry, that exact thing didn't come to mind, but I'm guessing it is one or some of the above factors which play atleast play some part in making this website worse, in your opinion?

(And you using that option, if there was one, would not be valid since you still do post on here)

EDIT: I saw Abuela's second reply after posting mine.[/quote]

abualabbasassaffah not abuela

and slow would be the factor and the content and features are not even in the same league from 10 years ago in ummah forums

I recall asking you if it was alright for me to shorten it to that, and you said yes. Anyway I refuse to keep typing that long username. 

I think the content is different because the target audience is different. Ummah forums aren't specifically targetting youth, whilst revival are. So, yes, some content may not be so detailed etc.

Re: Sufi related
The forum comments and blogs are not from one particular group, anyone can have their say. The magazine focuses on issues the youth feel - being British young Muslims and everything that comes with that identity. It is not necessarily focusing on aqeedah - there are lots of places which do that, and it does not mean to focus on such divisions. If you feel there have been articles which may alienate some people, give the editor your feedback.

JazakAllah

I used to post now and again when I was sat on the East Side of the office. Since my promotion, I'm sat back to back with the manager and he can see my screen so I don't really get a chance to write anything more than the odd comment. I used to like writing things. Most of them were just personal experiences rather than accumulated knowledge that I had stored up and needed to pass on to fellow Muslims (like Imams do).

Anyway, coming back to the point, there's not a box up there to cover my situation.

[quote=TPOS]I recall asking you if it was alright for me to shorten it to that, and you said yes. Anyway I refuse to keep typing that long username. 

I think the content is different because the target audience is different. Ummah forums aren't specifically targetting youth, whilst revival are. So, yes, some content may not be so detailed etc.

Re: Sufi related

The forum comments and blogs are not from one particular group, anyone can have their say. The magazine focuses on issues the youth feel - being British young Muslims and everything that comes with that identity. It is not necessarily focusing on aqeedah - there are lots of places which do that, and it does not mean to focus on such divisions. If you feel there have been articles which may alienate some people, give the editor your feedback.

JazakAllah[/quote]

calm down brother i was just joking about the name thing,

i know everyone here might  think i must be one of thsoe brother who never smiles and is always serious like almuhajiroun brothers

but im not like that

[quote=abualabbas7]

i know everyone here might  think i must be one of thsoe brother who never smiles and is always serious like almuhajiroun brothers

but im not like that

[/quote]

Prove it. Post a picture of your smile. We don't believe you.

😛

[quote=Northen Southener][quote=abualabbas7]

i know everyone here might  think i must be one of thsoe brother who never smiles and is always serious like almuhajiroun brothers

but im not like that

[/quote]

Prove it. Post a picture of your smile. We don't believe you.

:P[/quote]

🤣

[quote=abualabbas7]

calm down brother i was just joking about the name thing,

i know everyone here might  think i must be one of thsoe brother who never smiles and is always serious like almuhajiroun brothers

but im not like that[/quote] lol whoops ok good to know...btw I'm a sister.
[quote=Titanium]I can relate to points 2,3,4,5,6&7. but can not pick one.[/quote]
Point 8 is the one for you

@NS I consider u a regular even though u don't get to post blogs anymore (Which are missed 🙁 )

sjfgaskljgnslkdgvmnsklgnadrnglkdfnaslkdgsagmfgksfg

galfkgnadfklbndaflgkajdfglsdfhasgasfhglkn

[video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JmA2ClUvUY]

[quote=TPOS][quote=abualabbas7]

calm down brother i was just joking about the name thing,

i know everyone here might  think i must be one of thsoe brother who never smiles and is always serious like almuhajiroun brothers

but im not like that[/quote] lol whoops ok good to know...btw I'm a sister.

[quote=Titanium]I can relate to points 2,3,4,5,6&7. but can not pick one.[/quote]

Point 8 is the one for you

@NS I consider u a regular even though u don't get to post blogs anymore (Which are missed 🙁 )[/quote]

didnt even see who i was talking with all this time i thought it was someone else

[quote=TPOS]

@NS I consider u a regular even though u don't get to post blogs anymore (Which are missed 🙁 )

[/quote]

Don't worry. This contract only has about a month to go. I'A in the next one I won't be sat where a manager can see my screen and my blogs can resume. I have a bit of catching up to do. Soooo much still unsaid.

Watch this space...

😉

[quote=Lilly]sjfgaskljgnslkdgvmnsklgnadrnglkdfnaslkdgsagmfgksfg

galfkgnadfklbndaflgkajdfglsdfhasgasfhglkn

[video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JmA2ClUvUY][/quote]

I actually watched that ^ a couple of days back, and it just made me sighhh. 

They.are.so.utterly.adorable. !!!

Made my daay. (Y)

becauase this place is dead unless i start a  new thread which always gets attention and high posts

see its my threads in the last 2 months that got the highest views and posts

[quote=abualabbasassaffah7]becauase this place is dead unless i start a  new thread which always gets attention and high posts

see its my threads in the last 2 months that got the highest views and posts[/quote]
It's certainly dead but your threads haven't improved anything. It's just two people going round in circles.
More people posting more interesting stuff is needed

[quote=TPOS][quote=abualabbasassaffah7]becauase this place is dead unless i start a  new thread which always gets attention and high posts

see its my threads in the last 2 months that got the highest views and posts[/quote]

It's certainly dead but your threads haven't improved anything. It's just two people going round in circles.

More people posting more interesting stuff is needed[/quote]

atleast posts are being made otherwise its dead zero

Quality over quantity mate
EDIT: that's probably a little unfair, I'm not sure of the quality of either of ur posts - in terms of your knowledge etc BUT going round in circles is lame.

[quote=abualabbasassaffah7]becauase this place is dead unless i start a  new thread which always gets attention and high posts

see its my threads in the last 2 months that got the highest views and posts[/quote]

Yeah of course it were only YOU who lightens this place up. Can't even imagine what would become of this place without your existence (!) (FYI, notice the sarcasm)

I guess people would prefer to spend their time wisely instead of constantly debating and arguing over what is Bi'dah and what is not. 

😃

[quote=_Me_][quote=abualabbasassaffah7]becauase this place is dead unless i start a  new thread which always gets attention and high posts

see its my threads in the last 2 months that got the highest views and posts[/quote]

Yeah of course it were only YOU who lightens this place up. Can't even imagine what would become of this place without your existence (!) (FYI, notice the sarcasm)

I guess people would prefer to spend their time wisely instead of constantly debating and arguing over what is Bi'dah and what is not. 

:D[/quote]

Smileys are Bi'dah.

Please refrain from using them.

😉

[quote=Northen Southener][quote=_Me_][quote=abualabbasassaffah7]becauase this place is dead unless i start a  new thread which always gets attention and high posts

see its my threads in the last 2 months that got the highest views and posts[/quote]

Yeah of course it were only YOU who lightens this place up. Can't even imagine what would become of this place without your existence (!) (FYI, notice the sarcasm)

I guess people would prefer to spend their time wisely instead of constantly debating and arguing over what is Bi'dah and what is not. 

:D[/quote]

Smileys are Bi'dah.

Please refrain from using them.

;-)[/quote]

Speak for yourself *dirol*

[quote=abualabbasassaffah7]becauase this place is dead unless i start a  new thread which always gets attention and high posts

see its my threads in the last 2 months that got the highest views and posts[/quote]

i dont know if you're joking or not. but in case you arent. this site was alive and well before you came around. and once upon a time it was alive, well and KICKING before even I was around. (not that im old or anything)

i feel like being sarcastic now. but i wont.

Once upon a time implies a long time ago, which doesn't really help our case 😛

IMO this place doesnt need to be the biggest or busiest in the world, just useful to whoever uses it.

But yes a little more is always better. apart from when I get grumpy having to read every post because I havent set up some sane moderating system.

[quote=TPOS]Once upon a time implies a long time ago, which doesn't really help our case :P[/quote]

thanks for the backup TPOS LOOOL

nyways, this abu guy, the one above. he sounds diff from his  religious post doesnt he?

sigh..i wont say what i came on here to say.

[quote=Lilly][quote=TPOS]Once upon a time implies a long time ago, which doesn't really help our case :P[/quote]

thanks for the backup TPOS LOOOL

nyways, this abu guy, the one above. he sounds diff from his  religious post doesnt he?

sigh..i wont say what i came on here to say.[/quote]

i prefare as-saffah not that i hae a problem with abu

and to the others quite obvious you didnt read the posts properly, because the bidah definition and statement you made to me regarding the smiley is you's (the member) view not mine, so in a way you dissed him indirectly rather then me