Advice to Muslims in the west

Showkat —

Advice to Muslims in the west

http://www.7cgen.com/index.php?showtopic=7422


For Muslims living in the west

Suffering and being the’ victims

Of racists and their' Islamophobic comments and

violence

The future holds nothing else' but confrontation


Mr and Mrs Non-Muslim

U don’t like us

That’s why u cuss

We don’t like your lack of' values

And' hence we don’t integrate fully

To your satisfaction


Don’t want to be u

U don’t want to be us

We can accept u as u are

But u can’t accept us

Unless we change


Who’s the intolerant?

Who’s the racist and supremacist?


Trying to impose

And commit cultural genocide

By making Muslims lose our identity


U feel sorry for us

While we feel pity for u

It’s true

Never the twain shall meet

Hence we don’t socialise together

In the pub and nightclub


U invited us here

Now you’re full of fear

We want engagement and discussion

While your politician’s abuse and insult

Name calling and scare mongering


Why?

What is it about Islam that u fear?


Is it the hijab, veil or jilbaab?

Is it the topee or beard?


Your media is supposed to be free

But it tows the government policy

Documentary and news article

Dissecting Islam particle by particle

Just like in the past when it attacked Communism

Coz people started to look for an alternative


Is it any wonder that we are suffering daily?

Looks and stares

Intolerable' on public transport

Words and violent actions

When we are outnumbered

Against our women and elderly

Even our kids get called names

From the mouth of babes


Brainwashed from birth

by parents who should know better

who are the extremists and preachers of hate now?


We will not be silenced

And forced to abandon our Islamic identity

And adopt your lack of values

Coz that is the road to disaster

Annihilation and extinction


The more u oppress us

The stronger we become

Unified and focused

Internal divisions forgotten


The future holds nothing

But confrontation

in this nation

Envy of the world

For free speech

we will fight words with better words

Insults and accusations

with intellectual refutation

but are 'you' ready to debate and discuss?


Violent attacks we will resist

And defend our honour

No turning the other cheek

Like the meek and weak

Lambs to the slaughter


The spirit of resistance and Jihad

Burns within our souls

Fanned by the words of the Quran

And the actions of our blessed Muhammad Saw


Islam is strong in the west

Converts and born again Muslims

Those who went with the flow

But now to Allah swt they bow


We’re getting large in number

Mainly youth and those coming back from slumber

And not just the old and elderly


Masjids packed

Like sardines stacked

Row upon row

Bowing, crying and making

Dua to Allah the almighty


We are Muslims in the west

Holding onto our values interacting

And contributing to this society


We realise that the future holds nothing else

But confrontation

And we are ready for the challenge

So bring it on

Enter the arena

With your ideas

Capitalism Vs Islam

And let the discussion and debate begin


Author:Showkotali@hotmail.com


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Sajid Iqbal — Fri, 26 Jan 2007 - 11:31

reminds me of the mosque undercover documentary and the west/kafir hating imams....


bro your lyrics are good if you stay away from the hate that you have inside you for the 'kufaar'...


this is what puts me and others off your lyrics...


u assume too much, generalise too much ...


yes amongst non muslims there are some racists, islamophobes, narrow minded ppl but majority dont hate us... they may disagree but so what? an dalot of us muslims hate THEM, are also racists etc... so whats the difference?


but you have great potential....


i dont mind having your lyrics on the revival website and mag.... once you've toned down a bit:-)


Dave — Sun, 28 Jan 2007 - 21:25

[quote="Showkat"]


In the pub and nightclub

[/quote]


I love how these things always boil down to good, wholesome islamic values of family, modesty and piety versus traditional western values of clubbing, exstacy and drinking.


Believe it or not some Westerns would contend those aren't "Western values" and feel as alienated by that [i]subculture[/i] as muslims do.


But that would ruin the meter and verse of your jingoistic little poems wouldn't it?


gerrad — Sun, 4 Feb 2007 - 00:41

You could just as easily be writing literature for the BNP if you just changed a few words around in each paragraph.....


Showkat — Sun, 4 Feb 2007 - 09:55

Salaams Guys


Why dont u mention the bits u disagree with and why plus your refutation. No point saying its wrong and we disagree.


Dave — Sun, 4 Feb 2007 - 12:55

[quote="Showkat"]Salaams Guys


Why dont u mention the bits u disagree with and why plus your refutation. No point saying its wrong and we disagree.[/quote]


Why do certain muslim polemists think peppering their ignorant nonsense with the words "refutation" "comparative religion" (a non-existent academic discipline) and "logic" make them sound intelligent?


It really makes me grind my teeth.


And for the love of English (this goes out to all those in the aforementioned polemist group) you do not "do" a refutation. You "refute" something. THE NOUN COMES FROM A PRE-EXISTING VERB! I don't know how many times I have suffered through reading some school kid who wants to know if he is "doing" a good refutation of a "stereotype."


Asides out of the way:


Genius, I already told you what my beef is - you boiled Western Culture down to clubbing, partying and underage sex and pitted it against what you claim to be good old fashioned wholesome Islamic values.


Look at the first line:


[quote]Mr and Mrs Non-Muslim

U don’t like us

That’s why u cuss

We don’t like your lack of' values

And' hence we don’t integrate fully

To your satisfaction [/quote]


Your poem reinforces the stereotype that many Muslims (such as yourself) cling to - that Muslims are amidst a sea of barbarians and must remain a quiet segregated little community inviting the barbarians to be like them. Completely disregarding the fact that the vast majority of well-adjusted non-Muslims lead completely normal lives with completely traditional values. Not all of us own hotel chains so that we can go clubbing with that pop-tart Britney.


What your poem does [i]not[/i] do is explore the possibilities that 1. Mr and Mrs Non-Muslim do not like you because they are ignorant or racist, 2. Mr and Mrs Non-Muslim do not in fact hate you at all and 3. Society has other reasons for pushing integration that might have nothing to do with Islam like... oh... say... I don't know:


[url=http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1813149,00.html]Honor Killings[/url]


[url=http://www.forcedmarriage.nhs.uk/]Forced Marriages[/url]


[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/4145198.stm]Cultural Superiority Complexes[/url]


Incidentally I am accusing you of directly contributing to what is happening in that last article - just thought you should know.


[i]Maybe[/i] there are real problems with integration in Britain, [i]maybe[/i] Islam is not what the kaffir have in mind when they decry that general sense "these guys don't seem to "get" Britain" and [i]maybe[/i] these things are something Muslims too have a stock in and should be actively attempting to change.


Oh hell while we're at it maybe the general population, while perfectly well meaning, is being educated that the stuff above (forced marriages, honor killings, mobs) is perfectly normal behavior of these savage muslims! I bet somebody out there is using the aforementioned behavior to demonstrate that Islam is a wicked vicious faith that needs to get in line with British values.


Oh wait... [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3898695.stm]there is.[/url]


Gee... a muppet leveraging stereotypes to convince a large group of people that another group of people holds inferior values and that they should be cautious about moving forward with them... ya know, I've seen this scenario somewhere before... where have I seen this... I just,


I don't know...


Now let's imagine a world where people are so stupid that the more people at the scene of an accident, the less chance you will be saved because psychologically people are less inclined to act depending on how many people are there. Or a world in which a woman is advised to yell "Fire" instead of "rape" because when she yells rape people naturally run away, but fire they run toward the problem (to stare).


Unfortunately this is the world you live in. And these are the people you are living with - in fact, you're one of em! Unless you've undergone some kind of extensive training program to counteract basic human nature, intelligent, articulate, decisive you, is just another mindless, controllable and prejudicial twit when in a crowd.


That's right, in a group you are at least 95% more likely to set aside your personal thoughts and apprehensions and make a hasty and irrational decision for fear of upsetting what you believe to be the consensus of the group, pushing it into disembalance.


It's called "group think," it's why the Nazis came to power, why the Challenger blew up and why everybody watches "It's a wonderful life" at Christmas despite the fact we all know the movie sucks.


See what you are doing (Just like lazy eyed Nick), is leveraging the natural fear and prejudices that drive communal action, to take part in Communal reinforcement (sending a repeated message to convince a community of something, regardless of its merits), to leverage group think and help make muslims actually believe that this whole integration problem is a cover to turn you into indulgent, sinful kaffir.


Sort of like how greasy griffin uses Communal reinforcement to trigger group think among day to day working class Brits, and convince them that this whole integration problem is about Muslims trying to turn Britains into savage, women hating muslims.


And the funniest thing of all is that nobody is really winning! You've both just dragged yourselves waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay the hell off course! I'm thinking it's really no time before we see a Paris riots part deux on the streets of London, a whole lot of people angry for reasons they really can't remember but uhh... it's got somethin' to do with Integration... we think...?


You've both cloaked the original issue so well with your blatantly prejudicial agendas that its become an issue in and of itself.


It's freaking hilarious watching Brits and Brits go at it over completely ridiculous non-issues, like *GASP* veils and bikinis, while theres a real live 500 pound pink gorilla standing in the livingroom that nobody seems to talk about.


He's messing up the furniture, and clashing with the wallpaper and nobody seems to notice!


But anyway, way to go. I think your poem really nailed the important issues on this one. Clearly integration is all just cultural imperialism from white people and their kaffir culture which consists of x number of bad things.