Your Confidence In Islam

Then tell me master, what will become of her?

What do you foresee.

If she is to be no Jedi, what will fate bring her?

Will this fear turn her to the dark side?

Difficult to see, always in motion is future.

Great danger i sense in her training.

Much fear in her I sense, the fear of loss. Attachments are the shadow of greed.

:roll:

grandpa omro and the jedi wannabe quit chatting crap

Ah. A woman.

No wonder.

omrow, do you have a phobia of women?

Too much passion should be scary for any man.

[quote="zara"]omrow, do you have a phobia of women?[/quote]
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the poorrr guy, he has a phobia against everything, and soon he will be having one against KNIVES![/color][/b]

There’s this Muslim teacher I know….when its time to pray she simply goes to a corner of her classroom, pulls out her prayer mat and begins to pray.

The children are so well trained that you can hear them saying to one another “shhhh Miss is praying”.

I can’t believe that she is so confident that a member of staff isn’t going to walk into her class and see that she’s left a class unattended.

She’s the kind of person that if salaah begins at 1.00pm she’ll read it at 1.00pm even if lunch break is at 1.30pm.

And when she's doing her dua at the end - she's pausing every now and again to tell Billy "to sit back down in your seat and stop messing about"

She’s also regularly telling her class at random moments throughout the day not to eat such as such sweet cos its ‘”Haraam!”

I dunno if she can be classed as being incredibly devout, or just a tad bit nutty. But either way, you gotta rate her confidence in Islam.

As a teacher you are responsible for the health and safety of each child. What if during her namaaz Billy decides it will be funny to stab one of the kids with a pair of scissors? (Kids will be kids). It will be the school that will be in trouble. It will be the schools reputation that will be tainted by the newspapers. While I have a lot of respect for that sister I think she is putting the children’s health and safety at risk. Plus I don’t think the parents would be best pleased to find that their child had been left unattended.

I dunno i like her style.

Such confidence is almost inspiring... almost.

She must have them trained pretty well not to do anything stupid while shes praying. But she prob reads like i do... at lightspeed.

Its a teachers job to train children to the best of their wisdom.

i dunno, it kinda makes me feel uncomfortable. i admire her dedication and fearlessness etc. but i presume its not at a madrassah (because all the kids would be praying on time).

if one of my teachers at school when i was a kid started chanting mantras because they were a hindu i would have been a bit scared and probably thought they were a nutter. As a good-little-atheist i would have been very snobbish and judgemental and probably would have lost some of the respect i had for the teacher.

and re: 'so and so sweet is haram', i think that is a negative image of islam to put across to non-muslim kids. for me anyway, islam is not simply a list of halaal and haram. I got SOOOO annoyed with my friends who's 1st question to me after converting was not 'what made you believe in God' or 'what is the feeling of prayer like' but rather 'so you don't drink alcohol anymore' or 'you mean you can't eat pork??????'

i realise i may be taking this too seriously...

[quote="Ya'qub"]

I got SOOOO annoyed with my friends who's 1st question to me after converting was not 'what made you believe in God' or 'what is the feeling of prayer like'i realise i may be taking this too seriously...[/quote]

if you done mind brother Ya'qub , what made you come to believe in the existance of God?

I'll understnad if you don't what to share your experiance. Its only that i love hearing converts story in how they found faith. Very inspirational.

[quote="Bliss"]
if you done mind brother Ya'qub , what made you come to believe in the existance of God?

I'll understnad if you don't what to share your experiance. Its only that i love hearing converts story in how they found faith. Very inspirational.[/quote]

lol you read my mind.
Ive been contemplating for the past couple of days whether i should ask Ya'qub what prompted him to convert to Islam but then i thought he might get peeved. Im only asking out of curiosity. Like Bliss said if you dont wanna share just tell me to mind my own business.

[quote="Naz"]As a teacher you are responsible for the health and safety of each child. What if during her namaaz Billy decides it will be funny to stab one of the kids with a pair of scissors? (Kids will be kids). It will be the school that will be in trouble. It will be the schools reputation that will be tainted by the newspapers. While I have a lot of respect for that sister I think she is putting the children’s health and safety at risk. Plus I don’t think the parents would be best pleased to find that their child had been left unattended.[/quote]

I believe so too. I couldnt do that!

However, I cant help but think...if a woman has enough love, faith and taqwa to do that.

God also helps such people...which is why during those time, I doubt the head or any other visiter would walk in on her. Nor will anything bad hapen to her class.

Well nothing has happened till date!

don't jinks the woman!

[quote="MuslimSister"][quote="Naz"]As a teacher you are responsible for the health and safety of each child. What if during her namaaz Billy decides it will be funny to stab one of the kids with a pair of scissors? (Kids will be kids). It will be the school that will be in trouble. It will be the schools reputation that will be tainted by the newspapers. While I have a lot of respect for that sister I think she is putting the children’s health and safety at risk. Plus I don’t think the parents would be best pleased to find that their child had been left unattended.[/quote]

I believe so too. I couldnt do that!

However, I cant help but think...if a woman has enough love, faith and taqwa to do that.

God also helps such people...which is why during those time, I doubt the head or any other visiter would walk in on her. Nor will anything bad hapen to her class.

Well nothing has happened till date![/quote]

yeah inshallah nobody will walk in and Billy behaves himself lol

It's not that she just abandons the class.

From what I have read, the pupils have been taught to behave "differently" at such times.

Kids are not always fools.

Besides they do not always have access to scissors.

I don;t know if it is different now, but when I was in school, everyone was not always in the direct view of the teacher.

"Stand outside the class" for doing something wrong is a rather ironic example of this. You do something wrong, and you are given the chance to go un supervised? (I doubt that happens any longer... Well it would be common sense for it to stop...)

[quote="You"]It's not that she just abandons the class.

From what I have read, the pupils have been taught to behave "differently" at such times.

Kids are not always fools.

Besides they do not always have access to scissors.

I don;t know if it is different now, but when I was in school, everyone was not always in the direct view of the teacher.

"Stand outside the class" for doing something wrong is a rather ironic example of this. You do something wrong, and you are given the chance to go un supervised? (I doubt that happens any longer... Well it would be common sense for it to stop...)[/quote]

If they are juniors then they can be trusted but in they are infants you need to keep a watchful eye on them esp the boys.
Course they have scissors but they probs the safety ones but they also have pencils with sharp pointy ends, sharpeners, rulers (can be use to slap other kids with). If you think about it everything in the class room is a weapon.

'Good teaching' is to ALWAYS be in direct view of the class. 80% of teaching is actually thearatics

Leaving a class unnattented is the worst thing that you can do. A couple
of my friends failed their PGCE course cos they left their class unattended for a bit – they went to get more photocopies.

However, it is ironic that kicking kids out of class is worse, all teacher do it, but its actually bad practice - they'd never do that if they were being observed.

back in my days if you were naughty then you had to sit on the carpet in front of everybody, crossed legs with your index finger on your mouth. The other alternative was standing in the corner of the classroom with your back towards the class.

I havent really had naughty kids- being in my class is so much fun 😉

However, if kids refuse to listen I have these signs on the board titled 'Whose Hot' and 'Whose Not' and names go on the board under a heading depending on their behaivour for that day....kids cant stand being named and shamed.

I also threaten to keep kids in detention duing break time, where they have to stand outside the staffroom, where every teacher gives them a peed of look when they pass - but it doesnt really come to that.

However with younger kids, drawing a sad face on the board or putting them on 'time out' on the 'naughty chair' usually makes them feel remourseful enough.

lol you sound like a really cool teacher mine were all grumpy. I think its good to try new methods to see how the kids respond to each one. That way you can pick out the best one.

[quote="Naz"]back in my days if you were naughty then you had to sit on the carpet in front of everybody, crossed legs with your index finger on your mouth. The other alternative was standing in the corner of the classroom with your back towards the class.[/quote]

when i was in nursery school, i got in trouble once (and ONLY ONCE!!) because i pushed into a girl during a game where i was pretending to be a police officer.

i was made to sit on the carpet, and because I'd never been in trouble before i got really upset, I still remember crying my eyes out while still wearing the police helmet!!

discipline in my secondar school was a huge problem, i remeber that some of my friends escaped detention by climbing out the window (we were on the ground floor) or pushing the teacher into the lockers to get past her!

[quote="Ya'qub"][quote="Naz"]back in my days if you were naughty then you had to sit on the carpet in front of everybody, crossed legs with your index finger on your mouth. The other alternative was standing in the corner of the classroom with your back towards the class.[/quote]

when i was in nursery school, i got in trouble once (and ONLY ONCE!!) because i pushed into a girl during a game where i was pretending to be a police officer.

i was made to sit on the carpet, and because I'd never been in trouble before i got really upset, I still remember crying my eyes out while still wearing the police helmet!!

discipline in my secondar school was a huge problem, i remeber that some of my friends escaped detention by climbing out the window (we were on the ground floor) or pushing the teacher into the lockers to get past her![/quote]

tut tut tut pickin on a poor defenceless girl lol
I think most secondary schools have a discipline problem. I feel really sorry for secondary school teachers. I admire their courage and bravery, i could never do it.

to bliss and naz:

my story is available here:

http://www.steps2allah.org/pmwiki.php?n=Stories.Stories#Yaqub

[quote="Ya'qub"]to bliss and naz:

my story is available here:

http://www.steps2allah.org/pmwiki.php?n=Stories.Stories#Yaqub[/quote]

interesting

Yesterday I met up with a VERY good friend of mine. I've known him since I was about 3 months old. Because we lived close to each other, we would always meet up on weekends: from playing with building blocks as toddlers, as we grew up we started playing football in the park and computer games together, then we started going out to cinema etc as teenagers, then later we looked for girls and went to pubs and clubs. We've been through many changes together, and we really know each other inside out. Or maybe we KNEW each other inside out.

He went to Uni in a faraway city, and as a result I only saw him at holidays etc. He's just graduated and is now back home. He's the one friend of mine who took my conversion to Islam negatively. He's a committed atheist and would always try to argue and 'talk-me-out-of-it' as it were.

Alhamdulillah things are ok now, he seems to have A) accepted it and B) realised its been a massively positive influence on me. But he still likes to discuss and ask many questions. I relish the prospect because I feel confident enough to explain Islam in rational terms to him, the problem is the topics he brings up (yesterday it was extremism, sex, drugs and pork) don't really invite a proper discussion. Does anyone know the best way of moving the conversation away from these boring issues and onto things like prophethood or the Day of Judgement?

Just tell him, you find these topics boring to discuss {for whatever reason} so lets talk about X, Y and Z.

He sounds like a good friends so maybe you should try and be striaght with him. Theres no quick fix or escape card really.

Just be your charming self.

He'll come around.

If he's a committed atheist he so doesn't want to talk about prophethood and judgement day. If I noticed my Muslim friends steering the conversation that way I would start seeing a bit less of them. You could tell him you're bored of talking about Islam's part in topical issues and more generally stick to catching up and, like Seraphim said, be yourself.

i don't see 'pork' as a particularly topical issue.

i just want him to understand me.

because at the moment he just thinks i've decided to give up drinking, partying and other things just because I feel like it. I just want him to understand that theres a reason why i've done all this.