Innocence

MuslimSister

Salaam

Today in the school I was teaching I had to teach a class of 7year olds the differences between girls and boys.

My teaching was being assessed so I had to make sure that the children “thoroughly understood the concept” then in the end I had to answer their questions…

I had the utmost respect for the parents who had written into the school and requested that their child does not sit in this lesson…but I quickly realised that their parents efforts were in vain because as soon as the children returned to the classes, their peers quickly filled them in with what they missed….and obviously their version of the lesson was incredibly exaggerated and totally incorrect…

Today just reconfirmed to me, why I don’t ever want to teach in a public school…I hate the thought of being tied down by the National Curriculum, especially since I don’t agree with a lot of it…

I was in primary school only 10/11 years ago and I don’t remember being taught such things until year 6 (age 10-11)…its crazy the changes that have been introduced in the National Curriculum in just ten years.

I also don’t remember being involved in so much singing and dancing when I was in primary/infants school…yeah, we sang songs in assembly most mornings but they were clean, kiddy songs…..these days every school has singing/dancing a major part of their curriculum. And it’s not even the “kiddy” songs….its MTV stuff.

Schools are also big on introducing “multiculturalism” in the classroom….but not every thing from other cultures is good….for instance, many schools teach kids how to dance to African/Caribbean or bollywood music....and this type of dancing is not exactly very decent…

I’m not generalising. I’m registered with an agency…this is basically supply work which means that I’m often sent to different schools all over London. I’m also studying my PGCE at the moment and my Uni also sends me to different schools on a regular basis….and based on what I’ve seen in all the schools that I have been sent on (except private faith schools)…schools have seriously morally degenerated…

Innocence in children is such a beautiful thing….I used to ask my baby sister her opinion on things a LOT just a few years ago-her honesty was refreshing….but now aged 8 she’s learnt how to “butter” her sisters up…

As the first born in my entire extended family I was sheltered a lot as a child so I never acted “older than my age”…I don’t like the fact that my baby sister is exposed via cousin, older siblings etc…if I had my way, I wouldn’t even let her hang out so much in our room…

Anyways, the national curriculum is depressing….I’m not a fan of home schooling for various reasons, I’m of the opinion that children should attend faith schools…and they don’t necessarily have to be Muslim Faith schools…

What’s your view of the National Curriculum and what type of schooling would you prefer for your children?

Wasalaam

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Angel — Thu, 15 Jun 2006 - 17:04

[quote="MuslimSisLilSis"]who'd wnat their parents to be teaching them such stuff

what u on Siris :roll:[/quote]

lol exactly, there is a certain barrier that should be maintained when it comes to a subject like this, i believe it shouldnt be done so freely as i respect my parents very much and i can't talk about such a subject with them be it dad or mum.

*DUST* — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 - 01:46

[quote="Angel"][quote="MuslimSisLilSis"]who'd wnat their parents to be teaching them such stuff

what u on Siris :roll:[/quote]

lol exactly, there is a certain barrier that should be maintained when it comes to a subject like this, i believe it shouldnt be done so freely as i respect my parents very much and i can't talk about such a subject with them be it dad or mum.[/quote]
sirus might be right to a certain extent. it's still a taboo in muslim families but maybe by our kids' generation this would have changed. parents should be open enough with their kids to answer such questions if they arise.

MuslimBro — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 - 03:40

So *Dust* you believe parents should teach children this sensitive subject?

What's wrong with teachers teaching this....it's not like they're gonna lie or anything. There's also load of books out there and the internet so one can educate themselves.

*DUST* — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 - 03:59

[quote="Muslim Bro"]So *Dust* you believe parents should teach children this sensitive subject?[/quote]not go out of their way to 'teach', i said they should 'be open enough to answer questions if they arise' - there's a big difference.

[quote="Muslim Bro"]What's wrong with teachers teaching this....it's not like they're gonna lie or anything. There's also load of books out there and the internet so one can educate themselves.[/quote]oh come on do you even need the answer to that question?! muslimsis has made it clear that lessons in school start from a ridiculously early age. and the islamic manner of teaching the subject would be very different - where is the hayaa in being taught in a co-ed class?

MuslimBro — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 - 04:19

Yeah ok I see where you're coming from.

From an islamic view it would be wrong.

yashmaki — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 - 17:37

erm... i went to a state school not muslim, just normal comprehensive. We were separated, the teachers weren't muslim either lol. They just realised there were too many immature lads, and the lessons would do better if we were separate. So sex education was taught separately.

I think there's still this taboo amongst asians not to talk about sex. Yes modesty should be maintained. But non muslims would also want to maintain modesty. I don't think there's anything wrong with a mother teaching her daughter or a father teaching his son about this subject. In fact it's their duty to give the Islamic perspective. It's not haram to give out this sort of knowledge at the right age.

When ppl require religious advice even if it's of a sexual nature brothers and sisters are always asked to lose the embarrassment, ask the question rather than sin because of ignorance. If you ever join a alim/alima course be prepared for such embarrassments, you'll have to get used to it.

It can be supplemented with state school education, but we shouldn't assume state school ed is sufficient. They tend to give a rather biological and matter of the fact view, and in some cases even encourage kids without realising..i mean free contraceptives to a 12 yr old?

It can also be supplemented with books but books alone are no good. Most kids won't bother reading them. I never read them. I wouldn't use the internet for this subject it's too vast, and your child may link onto erm lets say unsavoury websites by accident.

I wouldn't have wanted my parents teaching me this sort of stuff, but that's only because i've never been close to my parents ,that i felt i could tell them everything, like i do with friends. However nowadays parents are more frank with their kids. They make an effort to be friends, so it's a lot easier to give this sort of education without the child feeling embarrassed.

MuslimBro — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 - 18:07

[quote="yashmaki"]erm... i went to a state school not muslim, just normal comprehensive. We were separated, the teachers weren't muslim either lol. They just realised there were too many immature lads, and the lessons would do better if we were separate. So sex education was taught separately.[/quote]
We were taught separately aswell.

I thought it was part of the curriculum to teach boys and girls separately.

MuslimSister — Tue, 27 Jun 2006 - 13:07

One thing that amuses me about children’s innocence is how quickly they can fill you in with their life story....often when working with kids and asking them to write stories about their family, they tell you stuff out of innocence that shouldn’t really be common knowledge.

Apparently me and my sister were blabber mouths too….unless my parents told me not to say something, I didn’t have a problem telling personal details to my teachers.