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when i was a kid speaking to dad in english he'd say "urdu mein baat karo" (speak urdu)
I'd be like-forget it, it wasnt important anyway :roll:
many times our trips to pakiland were to learn Urdu-but we learnt jack :twisted:
my parents have given up on trying to teach their kids Urdu-
none of us see the need to know urdu
we have grandparents over from pakiland atm and its hilarious trying to communicate with them
anyhoo discuss the need to know ur mother tongue in this day and age
and the issue that urdu/punjabi/gujari/bengali etc etc are langauges that are dying in the UK :shock:
and teach me Urdu :twisted:
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Salam
I like Bangla people and their language.
They are so polite.
Omrow
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[quote="Omrow"]Salam
I like Bangla people and their language.
They are so polite.
Omrow[/quote]
Polite? In oldham bengalis r the most unpolitest of peoples, wait, no-ones polite in oldham neway....ill let em off the hizzook then.
Ya Digg 8)
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now thats a big stinkin lie :roll:
oldham has many nice polite people..............and i found the bengali brothers are more welcoming and friendlier people than my own
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[quote="yashmaki"]erm one good thing about knowing your mother tongue you can actually speak about your faith without any difficulties communicating. Our parents generation often mix cultural traditions with Islamic ones. Rather than mocking them if we could advise them in a language they understand that would be really useful. I'd love to know my lingo fluently for that reason.[/quote]
thats a very good point. alhumdulillah nowadays we have many youth who are practising Islam, it would be great if they could do da'wah to their own elders in a common language. it must be frustrating for youth who know their elders are doing something wrong, but they cannot communicate this with hikmah (some elders think youngsters speaking to them in english is rude). 🙁
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was speakin to a YMO brother 2 weeks ago...
and he was sayin how Jehova's Witnesses in Oldham (never knew there were any!)....have learnt bangla and now goin into predominantly bengali areas and doing their own dawah
the bengali elders dont knw much english - look at the commitment in solving that problem!!! :shock:
highly impressed
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[quote="Fresh Prince"]was speakin to a YMO brother 2 weeks ago...
and he was sayin how Jehova's Witnesses in Oldham (never knew there were any!)....have learnt bangla and now goin into predominantly bengali areas and doing their own dawah
the bengali elders dont knw much english - look at the commitment in solving that problem!!! :shock:
highly impressed[/quote]
Yeh we should all learn to speak english, then do dawah to ....wait a minute.... :oops:
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[quote="Fresh Prince"]was speakin to a YMO brother 2 weeks ago...
and he was sayin how Jehova's Witnesses in Oldham (never knew there were any!)....have learnt bangla and now goin into predominantly bengali areas and doing their own dawah
the bengali elders dont knw much english - look at the commitment in solving that problem!!! :shock:
highly impressed[/quote]
yeh there were some jehovahs witnesses who came to my place too, they were learning to speak urdu because in my city there are loadsa desi housewives at home in the day i guess... :?
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[color=indigo]Apparently in bangladesh the really poor homeless ppl r converting to christianity cuz christian aid groups are the only ones who help them and they also give copy of the bible translated into bengali [/color]
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[quote="razor"][quote="Omrow"]Salam
I like Bangla people and their language.
They are so polite.
Omrow[/quote]
Polite? In oldham bengalis r the most unpolitest of peoples, wait, no-ones polite in oldham neway....ill let em off the hizzook then.
Ya Digg 8)[/quote]
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im very sorry to hear you had bad experience wiv bengali ppl, but u get that wiv every1 some ppl r plain rude n others r just so lovely, im bengali im not rude, well i hope im not[/color]
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ignore him....i think it was supposed to be a joke - a poor attempt
(and they wonder why theres a bengali/pakistani divide in oldham!) :roll:
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I was eating in this place known as "Bangla town" today...my bengali friend and all the people who worked in the restaurant were speaking in Bengali....I was convinced that they're were talking about me :?
Often I'm with two people and one knows Urdu and the other doesnt...and the Urdu speaking individual tries to draw me into a discussion in Urdu and I ALWAYS reply in English so that the other person doesnt feel as if we're talking about them.
Way too many people use their billinguilism to backbite about others in front of their face.
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Interesting topic even though only read a few posts
monolingual speakers find bilingualism so fascinating - at uni me and my mate were chatting and my mate does a lot of code switching (switching from one language to another) and a few of the monolingual students just stopped and asked 'how the heck do you do that? we have difficulty with just speaking English!' LOL
i think to an extent being able to speak in the mother tongue is important for effective communication with elders etc also personally I would like to keep up the use of the home language so to not forget using it altogether (a big danger of me doing that!) and then again it isn't and shouldnt be the most important aspect in regards to when it comes to marriage prospects etc and people shouldn't be put down for not using or knowing the home language.
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[quote="MuslimSister"]
Way too many people use their billinguilism to backbite about others in front of their face.[/quote]
so true - kids do this at schools and use their home language to insult the teacher right in front of their face! Swearing in the home language is just way too common in schools and when you think about it if teacher doesnt understand it then he/she doesnt have the level of control that the teacher should have.
This has a really negative effect. So everytime a bilingual speaking kid speaks in home language the teacher assumes it is either swearing or negative comments whereas it could be that the kid is using home language to help explain the work to a less able kid.
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Salam
Omrow
[b]EDIT - Please dont talk to sisters like that, its uncalled for and disturbing ---------NewModOnTheBlock[/b]
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:roll: creepy
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I dont think so. She is not a witch.
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i know shes not
im talkin about you
carry on like that, and is it any wonder many women turn into feminsits or anti-men! :roll:
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Carry on what?
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cant tell if u playin stupid, or jus really are stupid!!
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oh shurrup omrow.
i cant believe the mods never do anything about this. :roll:
[b]done --------- NewModOnTheBlock[/b]
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[quote="Fresh Prince"]cant tell if u playin stupid, or jus really are stupid!![/quote]
either way equals stupid!
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[quote][b]done --------- NewModOnTheBlock[/b][/quote]
thank you.
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Salam
I dont understand why my message was deleted.
I was only praising Exquisite.
She needed to hear that.
I think you lot dont like it when Bangla people are praised.
Maybe you only like criticisms about them. Is that true ?
Omrow
[b]No. Stop making things up. Your post was edited because your tone of voice was very awkward to say the least. The praise was uncalled for, and it came across as flirt-icious. I wont discuss this any further with you. ----------NewModOnTheBlock[/b]
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[quote="Omrow"]
I think you lot dont like it when Bangla people are praised.
Maybe you only like criticisms about them. Is that true ?
[/quote]
stop jumping to stupid conclusions
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[quote="muslim_kuri"][quote="Omrow"]
I think you lot dont like it when Bangla people are praised.
Maybe you only like criticisms about them. Is that true ?
[/quote]
stop jumping to stupid conclusions[/quote]
yes, agreed
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Boss jumped first and deleted my message to Exquisite.
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[quote="Omrow"]Boss jumped first and deleted my message to Exquisite.[/quote]
:roll:
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[quote="muslim_kuri"][quote="MuslimSister"]
Way too many people use their billinguilism to backbite about others in front of their face.[/quote]
so true - kids do this at schools and use their home language to insult the teacher right in front of their face! Swearing in the home language is just way too common in schools and when you think about it if teacher doesnt understand it then he/she doesnt have the level of control that the teacher should have.
This has a really negative effect. So everytime a bilingual speaking kid speaks in home language the teacher assumes it is either swearing or negative comments whereas it could be that the kid is using home language to help explain the work to a less able kid.[/quote]
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lolz that so true, in our school few years back they introduced a new rule rule no 5 "no speaking in any other language apart from english," of course some usd it as an excuse not to speak french, Spanish or bengali in those lessons but they had to amend that rule and added only use of another language will be in language lessons. but its so true ppl backbite to the max, n use so the teacher doesnt understand like we would in bengali say any did homework etc but now however some of the teachers clocked on the bengali swear words i fink once someone called a teacher a dog in bengali and the teacher ended up swearing her back in bengali and called her a female dog[/color]
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Salam
[quote="Exquisite"]in our school few years back they introduced a new rule
rule no 5 "no speaking in any other language apart from english,"
...some of the teachers clocked on the bengali swear words i fink
once someone called a teacher a dog in bengali and the teacher ended up swearing her back in bengali and called her a female dog[/quote]
Excuse me Exquisite.
If you dont mind, can I ask you teach us what a "female dog" is in Bangla ?
And, while you are at it, you might as well tell us what a "cow" is.
I asked because you know how it is. Just in case.
Omrow
erm one good thing about knowing your mother tongue you can actually speak about your faith without any difficulties communicating. Our parents generation often mix cultural traditions with Islamic ones. Rather than mocking them if we could advise them in a language they understand that would be really useful. I'd love to know my lingo fluently for that reason. But that's not the only reason.
For example i don't know any scholars who give proper sermons in Syhleti Bengali for ppl like my parents. They may give small talks but in depth lectures referring to Hadith and Quran, i can't think of any. Most are in Dhaka'i dialect and parents can only understand bits. Now our community could benefit from Bengalis who actually know their language fluently particularly Bengali mothers. Bengali dads often know urdu so they can attend urdu lectures to benefit but the mothers miss out big time.