Can A Dog Be A Muslims Best Friend?

MuslimSister —

Salaam

I was sitting on the bus with this lady I know who is registered blind…there’s a certain way to deal with people who are registered blind…there are many important do’s and don’ts that one HAS to be familiar with...and you can only know such stuff if you’ve personally associated with people who are visually impaired.

Anyway, another lady who was blind got on the bus with her guide dog…I was SO impressed with the quiet nature of the dog and how perfectly it guided her…he even knew when they reached her stop!

My mum is registered blind. Once in an interview in some radio station she was asked why she didn’t she have a guide dog…she goes “Why do I need a dog when I have four children”? :?

I know what she meant though…she has US to take her everywhere. However, not everyone is that fortunate….without help some visually impaired people are left housebound.

Islamically it’s sinful to acquire a dog for other than hunting, guarding, shepherding purposes….and only the saliva of the dog is considered impure not the fur etc. So Muslims shouldn’t “hate” or “kill” dogs….as some advocate.

I heard of an incident when a blind man wanted to pray in the Mosque with his guide dog….they didn’t let the dog in the Mosque because it was considered unclean however no one else offered to hold the man’s hand and guide him into the Mosque either…

Ideally an Islamic society is build on family relations and ties….so in an Islamic society a blind Muslim should not be in the need of a dog for guidance as the family is supposed to take care of him/her…and if a person does not have any family it should be the duty of a Muslim brother or sister to assist the blind person in need….but what if no alternative is available?

…From what I’ve seen guide dogs are extremely well trained quiet dogs…their tongue doesn’t hang out dripping with Saliva…they don’t lick people….so if a Muslim doesn’t have ANY alternative (i.e. doesn’t have anyone to take him/her to hospital appointments etc)…then can a dog be there for him/her in time of need?

ALSO, what’s with this hate/kill dog mentality?

Please discuss….

Wasalaam

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MuslimSister — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 - 12:43

[quote="Med"]In our city some of the rude boys have dogs for fighting and stuff.
[/quote]

And here.

It adds to their "image" and puts fear in others. Many Rude boys do train their dogs to attack and jump on people :?

Dave — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 - 14:04

[quote="*DUST*"]
lol its not all that strange ya know! most kids do go and hug dogs and talk to em, its cute... and yea, labradors are sooo cute and friendly. 🙂 i came across a vicious poodle once tho...:shock: depends on the dog and its owner i guess.[/quote]

lol some dogs are just better with children I suppose... I can see why a kid would want to hug and talk to a labrador or a retriever - they are friendly, furry, and huge - and cartoons promise that they can talk!

[quote]and i wud b lying if i said pit bulls and rottweilers dont scare me, i just (calmly :wink:) cross the road when i see one. the owners shud use a muzzle when they take their dogs out for a walk - this makes life easier for everyone around, and i'm fairly sure its not painful or anything for the dog.[/quote]

Yea I do too... heard too many stories about how vicious they are, and they never seem all that pleasant. I hate it when people just let them run around and they chase you barking like they are trying to kill you and the owner just whimsically yells "oh don't worry it doesn't bite"

Yea - you.

Keep the dog on a leash jerk.

[quote]but all puppies are cute, regardless! some family members in India have had an alsation for as long as i can remember, she's a guard dog, and amazingly loyal. i remember going to their place when i was kid, and she'd just given birth - those little alsation puppies were soooo cute! 🙂 but i couldnt play with them properly coz they hadnt had their vaccinations. :([/quote]

I thought Alsatians were like rotweilers - kinda mean and dangerous

star — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 - 14:40

im scared of the dogs back home not here....

i gotta be careful when i go because recently one of the dogs in my neighbour-hood back home bit the cheek of my 5-year old cousin sis...

felt sick when i heard that and even disgusted when they said they aint gonna get it put down.

Dave — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 - 14:48

[quote="naj"]felt sick when i heard that and even disgusted when they said they aint gonna get it put down.[/quote]

:shock:

That's the law over here... if your animal attacks a human it has to be put down - and it attacked a kid?

wow... what are they thinking

star — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 - 14:50

[quote="Don Karnage"][quote="naj"]felt sick when i heard that and even disgusted when they said they aint gonna get it put down.[/quote]

:shock:

That's the law over here... if your animal attacks a human it has to be put down - and it attacked a kid?

wow... what are they thinking[/quote]

well i've never come across anyone getting their dogs put down back home...

maybe coz they think their wicked as for guarding
or maybe dogs cost alot to buy ??? :?

*DUST* — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 - 15:26

[quote="Don Karnage"][quote="naj"]felt sick when i heard that and even disgusted when they said they aint gonna get it put down.[/quote]

:shock:

That's the law over here... if your animal attacks a human it has to be put down - and it attacked a kid?

wow... what are they thinking[/quote]
whoa! :shock: yeh the dog that bit my lil' cousin got put down... :?

star — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 - 15:29

[quote="*DUST*"][quote="Don Karnage"][quote="naj"]felt sick when i heard that and even disgusted when they said they aint gonna get it put down.[/quote]

:shock:

That's the law over here... if your animal attacks a human it has to be put down - and it attacked a kid?

wow... what are they thinking[/quote]
whoa! :shock: yeh the dog that bit my lil' cousin got put down... :?[/quote]

was the dog that bit your cousin from back home ?

*DUST* — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 - 15:30

[quote="naj"][quote="*DUST*"][quote="Don Karnage"][quote="naj"]felt sick when i heard that and even disgusted when they said they aint gonna get it put down.[/quote]

:shock:

That's the law over here... if your animal attacks a human it has to be put down - and it attacked a kid?

wow... what are they thinking[/quote]
whoa! :shock: yeh the dog that bit my lil' cousin got put down... :?[/quote]

was the dog that bit your cousin from back home ?[/quote]
if by 'back home' u mean america then yea... 😉

star — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 - 15:37

[quote="*DUST*"][quote="naj"][quote="*DUST*"][quote="Don Karnage"][quote="naj"]felt sick when i heard that and even disgusted when they said they aint gonna get it put down.[/quote]

:shock:

That's the law over here... if your animal attacks a human it has to be put down - and it attacked a kid?

wow... what are they thinking[/quote]
whoa! :shock: yeh the dog that bit my lil' cousin got put down... :?[/quote]

was the dog that bit your cousin from back home ?[/quote]
if by 'back home' u mean america then yea... :wink:[/quote]

arite cool 😉 then im not surprised it got put down....

i was thinking india/pak/bangla..... i believe there aint no law of animals being put down.. :?

Dave — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 - 16:13

[quote="*DUST*"][quote="naj"][quote="*DUST*"][quote="Don Karnage"][quote="naj"]felt sick when i heard that and even disgusted when they said they aint gonna get it put down.[/quote]

:shock:

That's the law over here... if your animal attacks a human it has to be put down - and it attacked a kid?

wow... what are they thinking[/quote]
whoa! :shock: yeh the dog that bit my lil' cousin got put down... :?[/quote]

was the dog that bit your cousin from back home ?[/quote]
if by 'back home' u mean america then yea... :wink:[/quote]

lol america - do your cousins ever talk about their country of ethnic origin as "back home"

I've never heard that among any ethnicity here... back home usually means a couple blocks away.

Oh* and if they are our agish ask them if they remember the cartoon "Talespin" and the Character "Don Karnage"

*DUST* — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 - 17:26

[quote="Don Karnage"][quote="*DUST*"][quote="naj"]
was the dog that bit your cousin from back home ?[/quote]
if by 'back home' u mean america then yea... :wink:[/quote]

lol america - do your cousins ever talk about their country of ethnic origin as "back home"

I've never heard that among any ethnicity here... back home usually means a couple blocks away.[/quote]
lol, actually i think that comment was more reflective of me than my cousins (tho i doubt they'd call india or wherever as 'back home' either). i've been to india fairly regularly since i was a kid, and havent been to yemen yet, but even tho i luv both places to bits (heard loads about yemen, cant wait to go!) i still dont regard either as 'home'.

'home' is more like places where i have actually lived, places which are ingrained into my memory, which i feel nostalgic about. holiday destinations and places like yemen or india have a seperate feel and excitement about them, but home is something else.

Dave — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 - 17:33

[quote="*DUST*"][quote="Don Karnage"][quote="*DUST*"][quote="naj"]
was the dog that bit your cousin from back home ?[/quote]
if by 'back home' u mean america then yea... :wink:[/quote]

lol america - do your cousins ever talk about their country of ethnic origin as "back home"

I've never heard that among any ethnicity here... back home usually means a couple blocks away.[/quote]
lol, actually i think that comment was more reflective of me than my cousins (tho i doubt they'd call india or wherever as 'back home' either). i've been to india fairly regularly since i was a kid, and havent been to yemen yet, but even tho i luv both places to bits (heard loads about yemen, cant wait to go!) i still dont regard either as 'home'.

'home' is more like places where i have actually lived, places which are ingrained into my memory, which i feel nostalgic about. holiday destinations and places like yemen or india have a seperate feel and excitement about them, but home is something else.[/quote]

lol so you don't pine for Aden in your spare time - looking wistfully out the window thinking of arabian shores?

Do your parents ever try to pull your interests back to India or Yemen or are visits more like just a vacation?

*DUST* — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 - 17:49

[quote="Don Karnage"]Do your parents ever try to pull your interests back to India or Yemen or are visits more like just a vacation?[/quote]
lol no coz thats the thing - i am very interested in these places [size=7](yet to visit Aden, cant wait to go, but not to the extent of 'pining' :P)[/size], i luv the culture and everything, but as i sed, that doesnt make them my 'home'.

Dave — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 - 17:59

[quote="*DUST*"][quote="Don Karnage"]Do your parents ever try to pull your interests back to India or Yemen or are visits more like just a vacation?[/quote]
lol no coz thats the thing - i am very interested in these places [size=7](yet to visit Aden, cant wait to go, but not to the extent of 'pining' :P)[/size], i luv the culture and everything, but as i sed, that doesnt make them my 'home'.[/quote]

lol that's cool then - sounds like the UK is your base of operations to see the world.

Somewhere to come home to

[size=7](I would like to Aden also)[/size]

MuslimSister — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 - 18:59

Salaam

Allah (swt) Himself, described the actions and mannerism of a mere dogin the holy Qur’an and elevated its status, simply and only because of its close association and link with His Wali’s (friends).

Allah (swt) knows best true status of the dog in Surah Kahf…

Wasalaam

star — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 - 19:17

in short i heard of a story about a man who saw a thirsty dog and gave him some water...

because of that good act he was granted paradise...

even giving water to a thirsty dog is a means of sadaqah...

MuslimSister — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 - 21:16

[quote="Don Karnage"]Dave is now confused...

So are dogs good or bad in the Qur'an?[/quote]

Muslims shouldnt "hate/fear or kill" dogs as some advocate.

However at the same time the saliva of a dog is considered impure and we're not allowed to keep dogs as pets.

But kindness to ALL creatures is stressed in Islam.

MuslimSister — Tue, 24 Jan 2006 - 13:25

[quote="MuslimSister"]

[quote="Omrow"]Dogs are good.[/quote]

Didnt you say "Dogs won't get into paradise"?[/quote]

[quote="Omrow"]Salam

Paradise is not for dogs.

Yet Muslims do believe that dogs will go to Paradise.

Omrow[/quote]

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judda — Tue, 24 Jan 2006 - 15:17

[quote="Seraphim"]I dont think u understood Judda

we're talking about REAL dogs .... not you stuffed animals.[/quote]

but they is real

judda — Tue, 24 Jan 2006 - 15:44

[quote="Modnster "]
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who r u?

is u knew to the team?

if so, HI i'm judda, u will be deleting a LOT of my posts during ur time as a mod, sometimes i only post for it to get deleted, it gives the mods something to do. So how long is u gonna stick around 4?

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