European Gas Crisis

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Salaam

This is getting very interesting.

Some background: Russia sells cheap gas to forver soviet countries that toe its line. Ukraine used to, but since 2004 has become more west-centric.

Russia used to sell gas at £50.00 for 1000 cubic metres, but has demanded the 'market price' of £230.00, which is over 4 times as high. The price was to be effective new years day. Ukraine refused to pay anything above £80.00. Russia has noe severed its gas pipelines supplying Ukraine. Ukraine needs gas. But if it gets it from elsewhere, it would have to pay the market price, which it has already refused to do.

Approximately 25% of the whole EU gas coes from russia. The majority through Ukraine. Those pipeliones remained open, but their pressure has dropped. It is suggested that Ukraine is siphoning some gas off for themselves.

[quote="[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4574630.stm]BBC News[/url]"][size=18]Ukraine 'stealing Europe's gas'[/size]

Russia has accused Ukraine of stealing $25m of gas exports destined for Europe after it cut off supplies to the country on Sunday.

Some European states say supplies from a pipeline running through Ukraine have fallen by up to 40%.

Ukraine denied taking the gas, but said it would indeed siphon off a share if temperatures fell below freezing.

The row erupted after Russia raised the price of 1,000 cubic metres of gas from $50 to $230 and Ukraine refused to pay.

Russia is still charging the lower price to some former Soviet countries, though the average price in the EU is $240.

Moldovan President Vladimir Voronin said his country had also been cut off, after refusing to pay $160 per 1,000 cubic metres, according to the Itar-Tass news agency.

Kiev says it is being punished for its attempts to become more independent from Moscow and develop stronger ties with the West.

In a statement on Sunday night, it accused Russia of resorting to "blackmail" in order to undermine the country's economy.

[b]German warning[/b]

Both the European Union and the United States have expressed concern about the row.

Germany, which depends on Russia for 30% of its supplies, on Monday called on Moscow to "act responsibly".

Alexander Medvedev, deputy head of Russian gas monopoly, Gazprom, said Ukraine had stolen 100 million cubic metres of gas on 1 January.

"If the theft continues at this pace, the volume and cost of the stolen goods will rise quite considerably," he said.

Ukraine's Fuel and Energy Minister Ivan Plachkov said there had been no "unauthorised diversion" of gas.

But he said Ukraine had the right under existing contracts to take a share of gas exported via the Ukrainian pipeline - the main route for Russian exports - and would do so if the temperature fell below -3C.

He also said that Ukraine was currently relying on gas from Turkmenistan and its own reserves.

But Gazprom, which controls the pipeline linking Turkmenistan and Ukraine, said no Turkmen gas was entering the country.

"Today the Ukrainian gas transporting system is receiving nothing but Russian gas," Mr Medvedev told journalists in Moscow.

[b]Supplies falling[/b]

Gazprom supplies about 25% of Western Europe's needs.

Austria, Hungary, Poland and Slovakia have reported a sharp fall in supplies, and have said they will in turn be pumping less gas to customers further down the line.

Experts say Germany could be affected soon.

Austrian, Romanian and Slovak authorities said supplies from Russia were down by about one third, while Hungarian gas firm MOL said its supplies were down by 40%.

Ukraine says the loss of Russian supplies will not hit ordinary Ukrainian consumers, but has warned that industry could be affected.

The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry says Russia is in breach of contract by cutting off the gas and has called for a resumption of talks in the presence of international experts.

It says Ukraine is ready to agree to an increase in gas prices, if this is phased in gradually.

Relations between Russia and Ukraine have been tense since President Viktor Yushchenko came to power last year on a promise to strengthen relations with the EU and Nato, and steer the country out of Russia's sphere of influence.

[/quote][url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4574630.stm]BBC News[/url]

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You — Wed, 4 Jan 2006 - 00:39

In England I think they expect us to know english Grammar at birth!

It is taught, but not how you would expect it. And not after primary school.

We have english literature and language in school. In literature you read old old books, and critique them. In language you just write essays on mundane things.

I think they think twice before picking on bad spelling now... due to dyslexia... it would not be politically correct... (that is an outright assumption though).

And Grammar in all writing software is attrocious. Spelling is what is needed.

I would say my grammar is good most of the time.

Dave — Wed, 4 Jan 2006 - 00:42

Weird...

Yall are pretty backwards on that side of the Atlantic.

Queens, Elton John, and no Grammar in Grammar school.

And what precisely [i]is[/i] a scone?

You — Wed, 4 Jan 2006 - 00:49

Its like a butter cookie is it not?

I cannot remember...

You — Wed, 4 Jan 2006 - 00:52

The british Education system is currently in the doldrums IMO.

They are at the place where there is not enough vocational training to be useful, nor enough theoretical education to be useful. They need to make some tough choices. Is school to educate people which can later adapt into an agile workforce, or to provide a workforce, which can continue to learn while they work?

Dave — Wed, 4 Jan 2006 - 00:52

[quote="Admin"]Its like a butter cookie is it not?

I cannot remember...[/quote]

The only one i've ever had was in London and it had blueberries in it and tasted like a biscuit except absurdly hard (difficult to eat).

You guys have breakfast all wrong...

100man — Wed, 4 Jan 2006 - 00:54

100man to the rescue!

[quote="Admin"]In England I think they expect us to know english Grammar at birth![/quote]
"English grammar"

[quote]It is taught, but not how you would expect it. And not after primary school.

We have english literature and language in school. In literature you read old old books, and critique them. In language you just write essays on mundane things.[/quote]
"English literature and language", "English Literature and Language" (best)
"old, old"
query: use of second person pronoun

[quote]I think they think twice before picking on bad spelling now... due to dyslexia... it would not be politically correct... (that is an outright assumption though).[/quote]
Totally idiosyncratic. "... spelling now. Due to dyslexia it would not be politically correct (although that is an outright assumption)."

[quote]And Grammar in all writing software is attrocious. Spelling is what is needed.[/quote]
"grammar"
sp. "atrocious"

[quote="Admin"]I would say my grammar is good most of the time.[/quote]

Could be worse.

100man — Wed, 4 Jan 2006 - 01:02

[quote="Don Karnage"]Yall[/quote]
"Y'all"

[quote="Admin"]Its like a butter cookie is it not?

I cannot remember...[/quote]
"It's like a butter cookie, is it not?

I cannot remember."

[quote="Admin"]The british Education system is currently in the doldrums IMO. [/quote]
"British education"

[quote="Admin"] Is school to educate people which can later adapt into an agile workforce, or to provide a workforce, which can continue to learn while they work?[/quote]
"people who"
"a workforce which...it works" or "workforce of people who can"

[quote="Don Karnage"]i've[/quote]
"I've"

[quote="Don Karnage"]lol did anybody see the producers?[/quote]
"The Producers"

I loved the original but I haven't seen the new one or the West End show.

*DUST* — Wed, 4 Jan 2006 - 01:12

[quote="100man"]I should be running this show. The grammar would be fantastic.[/quote]
oy! scoot over - you're in my place!! 😛

Admin i completely disagree with your view of English grammar taught in British schools. :| I remember doing Grammar in secondary school as well as primary. Most of my English teachers were excellent though, this obviously has a massive impact on how much a student learns in the lesson. Grammar isn't particularly interesting ofcourse, so most kids just don't bother with it.

*DUST* — Wed, 4 Jan 2006 - 01:46

[quote="Don Karnage"]The only one i've ever had was in London and it had blueberries in it and tasted like a biscuit except absurdly hard (difficult to eat).[/quote]
LOL... ur description reminds me of Hagrid's 'rock cake'! 😂

Dave — Wed, 4 Jan 2006 - 02:26

[quote="Aasiyah"][quote="Don Karnage"]The only one i've ever had was in London and it had blueberries in it and tasted like a biscuit except absurdly hard (difficult to eat).[/quote]
LOL... ur description reminds me of Hagrid's 'rock cake'! :lol:[/quote]

lol tasted like it too

MuslimSisLilSis — Wed, 4 Jan 2006 - 09:53

they dont teach grammar as a subject-they just pick up on ur mistakes (I was told that in Uni)

no wonder its difficult to learn French cos they start with teaching you grammar and we cant compare it with english grammar

and Dave-plain scones are yummy

You — Wed, 4 Jan 2006 - 10:58

Actually I remember something like 'your you're' and 'there their and their' in year 7 (I think)... so there is a bit.

But no real concentration on it.

Sirus — Wed, 4 Jan 2006 - 11:23

they are easy

u wanna talk grammer....i got Dictionary boy Dawud at my house.....boy, i cant understand that guy :shock:

bieng articluate at a job or an interview or in class is one thing.......in ur sleep and at breakfast is another...

MuslimSisLilSis — Wed, 4 Jan 2006 - 11:24

FYI duhboy

being articulate-knowing big words etc is nothing to do with grammer

grammer is stuff like saying "you're" in the right places instead of "your"

and placing the aprostophe in the right places

Sirus — Wed, 4 Jan 2006 - 11:28

when i say articluate....you knw what i mean.....using bog words, correct pronunciation, grammaticaly correct in his words....

only 1 thing he has said slang/street..........'innit'....but only once

im gonna make that kid street smart for his own good

he needs more asian friends :twisted:

MuslimSisLilSis — Wed, 4 Jan 2006 - 11:30

[quote="Hayder on Holiday"]
he needs more asian friends :twisted:[/quote]

True

I'm sure u'll mess up his grammar for good :twisted:

such is the influence of bad friends-u can chat about that 2night too

bad friends mess up ur grammar and make u dum.b

Sirus — Wed, 4 Jan 2006 - 11:38

[quote="MuslimSisLilSis"][quote="Hayder on Holiday"]
he needs more asian friends :twisted:[/quote]

True

I'm sure u'll mess up his grammar for good :twisted:

such is the influence of bad friends-u can chat about that 2night too

bad friends mess up ur grammar and make u dum.b[/quote]

lol...whislt that is true........i dont like people bieng posh around the house

save the big words for jobs, interviews, uni..........at home, you gotta keep it real.....otherwise you get shot 😂

are u tryna say im a bad friend to him.....he cracks....ermm....jokes only snobs [size=7]...white folk...not bieng racist, jus they hav diff joking styles...[/size]would understand....

You — Wed, 4 Jan 2006 - 23:11

[quote="MuslimSisLilSis"][quote="Admin"]Actually I remember something like 'your you're' and 'there their and their' in year 7 (I think)... so there is a bit.

But no real concentration on it.[/quote]

yeh but did u learn all [url=http://www.learnenglish.de/grammarpage.htm]THIS[/url]

do u know the definitions of all the stuff highlighted in blue?[/quote]

I learnt alot of that whilst studying Arabic (in english). All these grammatical terms would get used to describe the arabic word, and I would then have to learn what it was!

(and can people spell grammar properly. Its almost as bad as spelling 'spelling' badly!)