I was taught to love Allah (swt) and focus on His Mercy more then His wrath.
Allah (swt) has even said “My Mercy overcomes My wrath”.
Whenever my mosques teachers tried to “scare” me into practising Islam I would run a mile and would be more likely to NOT do it…
If an act is associated with a negative emotion a child is less likely to do it.
Focusing on the love and mercy of Allah (swt) also worked with my little sister who at the age of 6 is a regular hijaabi…
There was this Awliya (I can't remember his name)...but his mum used to put a sweet under his prayer mat. I can see myself doing stuff like that to my kids.
Focusing too much on the “punishments” side of Islam puts people off Islam.
Wasalaam
Submitted by Dave on 27 September, 2005 - 17:59 #33
lol yea... when I was a little kid this was the God I was taught:
That's all well and good for some people but I think the better servant is the one that does things because God wants it and they want to make him happy.
Not because they are afraid he will send a big black ghoul with big red eyes to freak you out at night.
That's like my idea of heaven is just being in a place close to God so you can serve him... because you want to serve him.
I think it basically comes down to what you want... if you want to serve him but go astray I think he will probably extend his mercy to you. If you are just not interested in serving this "God guy" and go astray he is going to punish you.
Submitted by Omrow on 27 September, 2005 - 18:10 #34
Salam
Iran claims that two recent hurricanes are punishments for President Bush.
Submitted by Dave on 27 September, 2005 - 18:12 #35
So... what praytell was their theory on the Earthquake that nailed them a number of years back?
I can't wait until some fool claims to see "Allah" written on one of the satellite photos of the hurricanes.
Submitted by Omrow on 27 September, 2005 - 18:16 #36
Salam
Yes. Some Muslims did claim that Iran was punished because they are a wrong sect of Islam.
Omrow
Submitted by Dave on 27 September, 2005 - 18:19 #37
"Omrow" wrote:
Salam
Yes. Some Muslims did claim that Iran was punished because they are a wrong sect of Islam.
Omrow
Wow...
There is this weird sect called "Geo-logists" who have this screwed up idea about plates shifting and built up pressures and some nonsense about fault lines :roll:
I think it basically comes down to what you want... if you want to serve him but go astray I think he will probably extend his mercy to you. If you are just not interested in serving this "God guy" and go astray he is going to punish you.
good point
it all comes down to ur intention at the end of the day
it is said that God loves us 70 times MORE then a mother loves her child
how can we be scared of such a Being?
Submitted by You on 27 September, 2005 - 22:12 #39
because hate is not the opposite of love?
—
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Aphrodite on 27 September, 2005 - 22:19 #40
"Admin" wrote:
because hate is not the opposite of love?
The opposite of love or hate is indifference.
—
~Judgements prevent us from seeing the good that lies beyond appearances.~
"God put me on this earth to accomplish a certain number of things. Right now I am so far behind that I will never die" ~ Bill Watterson
Submitted by You on 27 September, 2005 - 22:22 #41
exactly.
If someone loves you, the disapointment when you fail is even greater.
—
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
i hevent ever been told the details of hell and the punishment
its tru that a person is more likley to listen to someone if they love them-more then if they were scared of them
Submitted by Angel on 28 September, 2005 - 13:04 #43
I actually read up on the punishments but never got very far cuz it was to scary....i hate it at night cuz i think of death an being in the grave alone, its gets very scary and the fact you can die anytime is very freaky.
Submitted by Mujahidah on 28 September, 2005 - 13:18 #44
Asalamualaikum!
I've been told that as long as a Muslim has luv for Allah subhana wata Allah n his beloved Rasul he has gt nothing to be scared of.
Yes! death does scare u but if u fear Allah (swt) n hav true luv for him u'd follow the rite path n try n improve urself 4 the hereafter.
Im scared of death myself but dats y im tryin to improve myself n struggle for the cause of Allah (swt) for a betta life in the hereafter,still nt perfect though :roll:
We all no dat we cant run away 4rm death so we mght aswell prepare 4 it.
—
"Duniya toh badalti rehti hai...Ey mere Quaid tuh kabhi Na badal janaa"
Submitted by Angel on 28 September, 2005 - 13:35 #45
"Mujahidah" wrote:
Asalamualaikum!
I've been told that as long as a Muslim has luv for Allah subhana wata Allah n his beloved Rasul he has gt nothing to be scared of.
Yes! death does scare u but if u fear Allah (swt) n hav true luv for him u'd follow the rite path n try n improve urself 4 the hereafter.
Im scared of death myself but dats y im tryin to improve myself n struggle for the cause of Allah (swt) for a betta life in the hereafter,still nt perfect though :roll:
We all no dat we cant run away 4rm death so we mght aswell prepare 4 it.
Yeh in total agreement with that, i am scared cuz i know i aint a good muslim need to work on it a great deal. Pray for me that i do become a better muslim.
Submitted by Mujahidah on 28 September, 2005 - 13:54 #46
"angel" wrote:
Yeh in total agreement with that, i am scared cuz i know i aint a good muslim need to work on it a great deal. Pray for me that i do become a better muslim.
I will do sis.
The holy month of Ramadhan is cumin, one of my favourite months so...insh'Allah i will pray xtra 4 all my bros n sis includin u.
Jazak'Allah khair
—
"Duniya toh badalti rehti hai...Ey mere Quaid tuh kabhi Na badal janaa"
Submitted by Angel on 28 September, 2005 - 15:29 #47
Thanks!!
Btw i dont know if this is the case with everyone but during the month of ramadan i seem to make more dua.
Does anyone ask for a lil more, if so what do u ask for (if your willing to share)
Submitted by judda on 28 September, 2005 - 15:44 #48
"Constantine" wrote:
That's like my idea of heaven is just being in a place close to God so you can serve him... because you want to serve him.
mate in heaven u don't serve god
god searves u
u lend god a loan of rightessness and he rewards u for it
god don't need us we need him
—
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
Submitted by Dave on 28 September, 2005 - 16:25 #49
"Judda" wrote:
"Constantine" wrote:
That's like my idea of heaven is just being in a place close to God so you can serve him... because you want to serve him.
mate in heaven u don't serve god
god searves u
u lend god a loan of rightessness and he rewards u for it
god don't need us we need him
I don't presume to know what God needs... but I definitely know that the purpose of the angels is to serve and worship God, and that in revelations the ones who are taken up to heaven are there in his company to worship him.
That's what the text says.
It's not some mundane cartoonish world where you eat cake all day and watch birds chirp.
That's stick and carrot religion.
Just being in his presence makes heaven worthwhile.
Submitted by Medarris on 28 September, 2005 - 18:05 #50
"Constantine" wrote:
So... what praytell was their theory on the Earthquake that nailed them a number of years back?
.
I dont know what irans theory is about tthat earthquake but your comments suggest that if you say others are being punished by God, you imply that you yourselves are not being punished by God.
There as a country and a government that existed not too long ago that would say that any evil that befalls us and our our country is becuase of oursins. Infact a terrible earthquake came to that country and they said it was becuase the people were not establishing their prayers in the correct way and the famine was becuase of people turning away from God. This was in a theocracy.,
—
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Submitted by Dave on 28 September, 2005 - 18:11 #51
Actually I was saying they callously tell their enemies that natural reoccuring disasters are signs from God that their enemies are evil, and when natural disasters happen to them they just accept it as a natural disaster.
I have about as much love for Iran as they have for us.
Submitted by judda on 29 September, 2005 - 10:25 #52
"Constantine" wrote:
I have about as much love for Iran as they have for us.
....and what have they done to you? :roll:
—
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
Submitted by Mujahidah on 29 September, 2005 - 11:16 #53
"angel" wrote:
Thanks!!
Btw i dont know if this is the case with everyone but during the month of ramadan i seem to make more dua.
Does anyone ask for a lil more, if so what do u ask for (if your willing to share)
No problem! as a Muslim sister its my duty to do dua for my bros n sis.
Yeh! Id' agree wid makin more dua during the holy month of Ramadhan. I personally ask 4 a betta life, protection, knowledge n true ishq e Rasul (saw). Things dat i no my parents or any family relative wnt accept is my main dua.
Wat bout every1 else???
—
"Duniya toh badalti rehti hai...Ey mere Quaid tuh kabhi Na badal janaa"
hayDER!!! :x
and can you both stop sticking your tongues out like immature kids
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
Salaam
I was taught to love Allah (swt) and focus on His Mercy more then His wrath.
Allah (swt) has even said “My Mercy overcomes My wrath”.
Whenever my mosques teachers tried to “scare” me into practising Islam I would run a mile and would be more likely to NOT do it…
If an act is associated with a negative emotion a child is less likely to do it.
Focusing on the love and mercy of Allah (swt) also worked with my little sister who at the age of 6 is a regular hijaabi…
There was this Awliya (I can't remember his name)...but his mum used to put a sweet under his prayer mat. I can see myself doing stuff like that to my kids.
Focusing too much on the “punishments” side of Islam puts people off Islam.
Wasalaam
lol yea... when I was a little kid this was the God I was taught:
[img]http://www.nonsensesoftware.com/Files/Ben/Bob.png[/img]
That's all well and good for some people but I think the better servant is the one that does things because God wants it and they want to make him happy.
Not because they are afraid he will send a big black ghoul with big red eyes to freak you out at night.
That's like my idea of heaven is just being in a place close to God so you can serve him... because you want to serve him.
I think it basically comes down to what you want... if you want to serve him but go astray I think he will probably extend his mercy to you. If you are just not interested in serving this "God guy" and go astray he is going to punish you.
Salam
Iran claims that two recent hurricanes are punishments for President Bush.
http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-234/0509278864162008.htm
Omrow
So... what praytell was their theory on the Earthquake that nailed them a number of years back?
I can't wait until some fool claims to see "Allah" written on one of the satellite photos of the hurricanes.
Salam
Yes. Some Muslims did claim that Iran was punished because they are a wrong sect of Islam.
Omrow
Wow...
There is this weird sect called "Geo-logists" who have this screwed up idea about plates shifting and built up pressures and some nonsense about fault lines :roll:
Yea... the world is built on a kitchen table.
Plates.
Whatever.
good point
it all comes down to ur intention at the end of the day
it is said that God loves us 70 times MORE then a mother loves her child
how can we be scared of such a Being?
because hate is not the opposite of love?
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
The opposite of love or hate is indifference.
~Judgements prevent us from seeing the good that lies beyond appearances.~
"God put me on this earth to accomplish a certain number of things. Right now I am so far behind that I will never die" ~ Bill Watterson
exactly.
If someone loves you, the disapointment when you fail is even greater.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
i dont like people who scare others about Islam
i hevent ever been told the details of hell and the punishment
its tru that a person is more likley to listen to someone if they love them-more then if they were scared of them
I actually read up on the punishments but never got very far cuz it was to scary....i hate it at night cuz i think of death an being in the grave alone, its gets very scary and the fact you can die anytime is very freaky.
Asalamualaikum!
I've been told that as long as a Muslim has luv for Allah subhana wata Allah n his beloved Rasul he has gt nothing to be scared of.
Yes! death does scare u but if u fear Allah (swt) n hav true luv for him u'd follow the rite path n try n improve urself 4 the hereafter.
Im scared of death myself but dats y im tryin to improve myself n struggle for the cause of Allah (swt) for a betta life in the hereafter,still nt perfect though :roll:
We all no dat we cant run away 4rm death so we mght aswell prepare 4 it.
"Duniya toh badalti rehti hai...Ey mere Quaid tuh kabhi Na badal janaa"
Yeh in total agreement with that, i am scared cuz i know i aint a good muslim need to work on it a great deal. Pray for me that i do become a better muslim.
I will do sis.
The holy month of Ramadhan is cumin, one of my favourite months so...insh'Allah i will pray xtra 4 all my bros n sis includin u.
Jazak'Allah khair
"Duniya toh badalti rehti hai...Ey mere Quaid tuh kabhi Na badal janaa"
Thanks!!
Btw i dont know if this is the case with everyone but during the month of ramadan i seem to make more dua.
Does anyone ask for a lil more, if so what do u ask for (if your willing to share)
mate in heaven u don't serve god
god searves u
u lend god a loan of rightessness and he rewards u for it
god don't need us we need him
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
I don't presume to know what God needs... but I definitely know that the purpose of the angels is to serve and worship God, and that in revelations the ones who are taken up to heaven are there in his company to worship him.
That's what the text says.
It's not some mundane cartoonish world where you eat cake all day and watch birds chirp.
That's stick and carrot religion.
Just being in his presence makes heaven worthwhile.
I dont know what irans theory is about tthat earthquake but your comments suggest that if you say others are being punished by God, you imply that you yourselves are not being punished by God.
There as a country and a government that existed not too long ago that would say that any evil that befalls us and our our country is becuase of oursins. Infact a terrible earthquake came to that country and they said it was becuase the people were not establishing their prayers in the correct way and the famine was becuase of people turning away from God. This was in a theocracy.,
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Actually I was saying they callously tell their enemies that natural reoccuring disasters are signs from God that their enemies are evil, and when natural disasters happen to them they just accept it as a natural disaster.
I have about as much love for Iran as they have for us.
....and what have they done to you? :roll:
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
No problem! as a Muslim sister its my duty to do dua for my bros n sis.
Yeh! Id' agree wid makin more dua during the holy month of Ramadhan. I personally ask 4 a betta life, protection, knowledge n true ishq e Rasul (saw). Things dat i no my parents or any family relative wnt accept is my main dua.
Wat bout every1 else???
"Duniya toh badalti rehti hai...Ey mere Quaid tuh kabhi Na badal janaa"
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