Ramadan 2005

[quote="MuslimSisLilSis"]people who inconveneince others/upset others need to be AWARE that fasting is more then food or drink[/quote]
and those who are being 'incovenienced' need to be patient and recognise that the smoker (or whoever) is going through a difficult time. and who said they are not aware... have u read seema's post on this thread? it must have taken her a lot of courage to write that.

[quote]once AGAIN i reiterate-NO ONE is in a position to tell others not to fast

but I'm entitled to think what I want[/quote]
and what you think happens to go against the Quran and Sunnah, as Admin pointed out. does that not worry you? :?

My bro is an addict . :? He's been on coke for the last five years. He's been clean for the last 3 weeks and he's started to fast this year. This is very hard on the family because his cravings result in violent outbursts which make him physically push mum around and makes him hallucinate. We all trying to help him but its very hard not to hate him. This ramadan is my first ramadan away from the family as I'm living in campus. Its a very lonely time of year. I suffer from a lot of depression in ramadan.

alwayz remeber ramz ur not alone Allah is wiv u all the tym 😃

[quote="Aasiyah"][quote="MuslimSisLilSis"]people who inconveneince others/upset others need to be AWARE that fasting is more then food or drink[/quote]
and those who are being 'incovenienced' need to be patient and recognise that the smoker (or whoever) is going through a difficult time. and who said they are not aware... have u read seema's post on this thread? it must have taken her a lot of courage to write that.

:?[/quote]

It’s easy to say that one should not be “inconvenienced and should practise patience" but one has to be in such a position before they can talk.

In an extreme example given by Sis (Bro?) Ramz, his/her brother’s addictions results in him physically pushing his mum around. If my younger brother did that, I’d find it hard not to be “inconvenienced” by it and would probably slap him one….if I had an older brother who did that I’d find it very hard not to hate him….and I would never tell my mum to do Sabr.

By the way Sis/bro Ramz...are you depressed cos you're living away from home?

Salam Muslims
Peace Non Muslims

Ramadhan Mubarak

Yet again this great and sacred Month has come. Indeed those who deprived themselves of this Month truly have been deprived.

May Allah azza wa jall accept our dua and our forgive our sins

w/s Muslims
Peace Non Muslims

Salam

I hate those Ramadan lectures that are arranged around sunset.

Organisers seems to have no considerations whatsoever.

We are supposed to be with our families breaking of our fasts !!

When I am invited, I simply refuse to attend such gatherings.

Omrow

theres a ramadan iftar dinner this sunday that I'm gonna go to in a mosque

cant wait-

best time to do a lecture is just before iftar time-more blessings at that time

[quote="Omrow"]When I am invited, I simply refuse to attend such gatherings.

Omrow[/quote]

I'm sure its no big loss for the organisers :roll:

Ramadan Ritual: Fast Daily, Pray, Head to the Mall

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates, Oct. 7 - The decorations are hanging, the cash registers are clanging, and the air of holiday cheer is everywhere. For a holy month, Ramadan is not what it used to be.

Once an ascetic month of fasting, prayer and reflection on God, Ramadan has gradually taken on the commercial trappings of Christmas and Hanukkah, from the hanging lights that festoon windows to the Ramadan greeting cards and Ramadan sales and advertising campaigns that have become the backbone of commerce for the month.

Marketers and businesses have caught on to the potential of 1.3 billion people at home fasting or breaking their daily fasts and getting back to normal life, a captive audience eager for entertainment and celebration, and more than willing to feast when the sun goes down.

Here in Dubai, the region's supermall, commercialism has taken on a life of its own as almost everything has been dressed in the cloak of Ramadan, from consumer goods to cars. Malls are open till the early morning, and the nights rock away at dinner parties in desert tents.

"Ramadan is changing from a religious month to a cultural or social event," said Muhammad el-Kuwaiz, a Saudi management consultant based in Dubai. "You're using faith to commercialize something else. It doesn't feel right."

"It is supposed to be about spirituality, but it drives me crazy that it is all about food and banquets," said Naglaa Abdel Fattah, 30, a secretary in Cairo. "I do not feel the spirit of Ramadan anymore."

"I call my friend and all she talks about is the 10 dishes her family is preparing for iftar," Ms. Fattah said, referring to the breaking of the fast after sundown. "This is extravagant."

Why can't religion and fun go hand in hand?" asked an Iraqi man who spoke on condition that his name not be used because of the sensitivity of religious matters here. "You want to be part of it. The whole thing is one big celebration, and people enjoy it. There's nothing wrong with it."

But to Mr. Kuwaiz and others, there is plenty wrong with it. "You're supposed to exercise abstinence, and the opposite happens," he complained. "Ramadan has become a month where people exercise gluttony."

[url=http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/12/international/asia/12ramadan.html?ex=…]

[quote="MuslimSisLilSis"]Ramadan Ritual: Fast Daily, Pray, Head to the Mall

Why can't religion and fun go hand in hand?" asked an Iraqi man who spoke on condition that his name not be used because of the sensitivity of religious matters here. "You want to be part of it. The whole thing is one big celebration, and people enjoy it. There's nothing wrong with it."

[url=http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/12/international/asia/12ramadan.html?ex=…]

i agree with this philosophy and i saw it in Mansera when i was in pakistan it was a pleasure to fast there whilst in Islamabad everything was so dreary - this was 2 years ago

my lil cuzn is back in UK now from dubai for a bit

he said there, in ramadan everyone throws parties :?

the beach is packed out with people in what should be prayer time!....and every1z flexxin, quad bikes are out, speed boats, BBQ's etc

i dont knw wat 2 make of it 😂

[quote="Darth V-Hayder"]my lil cuzn is back in UK now from dubai for a bit

he said there, in ramadan everyone throws parties :?

the beach is packed out with people in what should be prayer time!....and every1z flexxin, quad bikes are out, speed boats, BBQ's etc

i dont knw wat 2 make of it [/quote]

oh so long as its done in a halal manner then nothing rong with it. u knw cooking up ten different dishes, and being extravagant and feasting all night is an excellent halal and permissible thing, isnt it?

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[quote="Med"][
oh so long as its done in a halal manner then nothing rong with it. u knw cooking up ten different dishes, and being extravagant and feasting all night is an excellent halal and permissible thing, isnt it?[/quote]

so ok you're going to be like this but really nothing wrong with a little bit of merry making it is the month to rejoice taking it to the extreme either way is not on of course but we all know that

scarcasm is HARAAM Med-

u of all people should be the first to know that :roll:

yeah u tell him like it is lilsis

u posted the article but what do you feel? am i right or am i right!

[quote="seema*"]yeah u tell him like it is lilsis

u posted the article but what do you feel? am i right or am i right![/quote]

i agree with the article

ramadan is a spiritual time

not the time to pig out and have party's

but at the same time-i dont believe in starving urself nor am i quick to put fatwa's on them people who make tasty Iftari's and cook lots of stuff

so i agree with u

good to see common sense on the forum-its rare these days

u shud post more often

[quote="MuslimSisLilSis"]scarcasm is HARAAM Med-

[/quote]

i genuinely didnt know that sarcasm was haraam, care to provide evidence?

muslimsis u can chat wt u like, peace be upon you.

[quote="Med"]

i genuinely didnt know that sarcasm was haraam, care to provide evidence?

muslimsis u can chat wt u like, peace be upon you.[/quote]

cant be bothered to provide evidence

esp since its obvious u dont wear ur glasses when u come on here

so its not worth me exerting myself unneccesarily when i'm fasting

but fatwa's were ur speciality-so I thought u'd be the first to know that sarcasm is against Islam

but minor

k, salaam

IM NOT TO SURE BOUT THIS BUT CAN U WEAR SURMA OR EYELINER WHEN U GOT A ROZA?

[quote="ISLAM4LIFE"]IM NOT TO SURE BOUT THIS BUT CAN U WEAR SURMA OR EYELINER WHEN U GOT A ROZA?[/quote]

I don't know.

I always wear kajol, I havent come across any teaching that states that make-up breaks your fast. But you should ask a scholar.

[quote="MuslimSister"][quote="ISLAM4LIFE"]IM NOT TO SURE BOUT THIS BUT CAN U WEAR SURMA OR EYELINER WHEN U GOT A ROZA?[/quote]

I don't know.

I always wear kajol, I havent come across any teaching that states that make-up breaks your fast. But you should ask a scholar.[/quote]

lipstick that has flavour to it does break your fast! im not sure about eyeliner sumone sed it does! i dnt wear it often anyway!!

Salaam

I heard a scholar once say that Allah (swt) never orders anything except that Satan takes two contradictory stances towards it…. either shortcoming and negligence or overzealousness and exaggeration.

And that’s why in Ramadan we either get some who are extreme in eating in abundance or those people who don’t even eat and even delay breaking their fast.

Islam is a religion of moderation.

Also, one benefit of Ramadan is that this month we can achieve Sabr, tolerance and self control.

It’s mentioned in a hadith that if someone is arguing with you when you’re fasting, you should say three times “I’m fasting, I’m fasting” and shouldn’t retaliate. So in this month, we should let things….if someone has done or said something to upset us-we should let it go….if someone has let us down-we should let it go.

Once, a man came to visit Imam Abu Hanifah all the way from Basra, He asked Imam Abu Hanifah a question and the Imam told him the answer. The man told him that his answer contradicted the teachings of his teacher. Imam Abu Hanifah calmly told him that “Your teacher must be wrong”. The man became furious and started to swear at Imam Abu Hanifah mother. Imam Abu Hanifa loved his mother but remained calm and didn’t show any hint of anger or irritation when the man deeply insulted his beloved mother. Nor did he remind the man of his great Caliber and position in society-He didn’t say “Who does HE think he is talking to ME like that?”

And that was Imam e Azam, a man who was greatly honored and respected by all that knew him. And then there’s us who do not come anywhere near the status, piety, and knowledge of Imam Abu Hanifa but are so easily offended when someone insults us.

In this month, it’s easier for us to humble ourselves and suppress our Nafs.

Wasalaam

[quote="MuslimSister"][quote="ISLAM4LIFE"]IM NOT TO SURE BOUT THIS BUT CAN U WEAR SURMA OR EYELINER WHEN U GOT A ROZA?[/quote]

I don't know.

I always wear kajol, I havent come across any teaching that states that make-up breaks your fast. But you should ask a scholar.[/quote]

You can. aslong as you do not eat it...

[quote="Admin"]

You can. aslong as you do not eat it...[/quote]

yes, Kajol is very chewy-and u can get it in an assortment of fruity flavours

my baby sis used to love eating make up

ermmm what is kajol?

and not the actoress

[quote="Darth V-Hayder"]ermmm what is kajol?

and not the actoress[/quote]

u can call it kajol/surma or eyeliner

u put it inside ur eye

makes ur eyes look very pretty

i never leave the house without my eyeliner

oh yes, i remember

neither do i 8)

[b]Seeking Soul's Salvation[/b]

Harken! O you who was not content to sin throughout Rajab.

His rebellion against his Lord had to continue the duration of Shaban.

The month of fasting has now come to shade and shelter you,

Do not transform it also into a month of sinning.

Recite the Quran and glorify [God], with diligent assertion.

Indeed! It is a month for glorification and the Quran.

Deny your bodily appetites, seeking your soul’s salvation.

Eventually, the earth will consume the body.

How many deceased people have you known who fasted?

Amongst your family, neighbours, and brothers.

Death has erased them, leaving you behind.

Get serious [about your religion], for the living are quite close to the dead!

You take delight in the Eid outfits being cut out now for the festival.

But soon they will be your burial shrouds.

How long will the person be happy with his worldly home?

Knowing that his ultimate home is the grave.

Source:
"Lata’if al-Ma’arif [The Subtleties of Knowledge]" - Ibn Rajab al-Hanbali,
p. 282.

Ref: www.youngmuslims.ca

thats a good poem Yashmaki but can i ask u a personal question - why have u deleted most of your threads?

check your pms sister.