Riots and looting in parts of London, Birmingham and Manchester

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London Ealing
There are now reports of looting in Ealing, west London
and a Tesco store has been looted

London Clapham
youths attacking shops in Clapham, south London

London Waltham Forest
Three officers injured after being hit by a vehicle in Chingford Mount, Waltham Forest,
More than 30 youths vandalising and looting a number of shops in Walthamstow and Waltham Forest

London Hackney
In Hackney, shops were attacked, and there were skirmishes as youths threw objects including chairs and pieces of wood at officers in riot gear.

Cars and bins were set alight, and contents from the bins were used as missiles by the offenders.

At one point, several people broke into the back of a stationary lorry.

They pulled its contents out onto the road, and some hurled it at police, while others used it to smash windows of a parked bus.

London Enfield
Extra police have been deployed to Enfield to handle clashes that have broken out this evening after a night of rioting in nearby Tottenham

At least 200 youths are believed to be in the area Enfield High Street where shop windows have been smashed and a police car attacked.

Scotland Yard confirmed several people have been arrested after looting in the borough.

It said earlier it has an operation in place across the capital tonight, with "high visibility" patrols being carried out.

Additional officers will be stationed in Tottenham throughout the night.

Hours of violence saw around 300 people battle police in north London on Saturday night and into the early hours of Sunday

Arrests In Enfield Amid Looting And Violence

Extra police have been deployed to Enfield to handle clashes that have broken out this evening after a night of rioting in nearby Tottenham.

At least 200 youths are believed to be in the area Enfield High Street where shop windows have been smashed and a police car attacked.

Scotland Yard confirmed several people have been arrested after looting in the borough.

It said earlier it has an operation in place across the capital tonight, with "high visibility" patrols being carried out.

Additional officers will be stationed in Tottenham throughout the night.

Hours of violence saw around 300 people battle police in north London on Saturday night and into the early hours of Sunday.

Mark Duggan's Brother Shaun Hall

It followed a protest over the fatal shooting of local man Mark Duggan.

The 29-year-old father-of-four died on Thursday after he was shot by police.

An Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) investigation into the incident is under way.

The IPCC, which is expected to make a statement later this evening on the fatal shooting, has said a non-police firearm was found at the scene of Mr Duggan's death.

Tottenham residents have told Sky News they were in fear for their lives as shops were looted, police cars and a bus set alight and petrol bombs thrown at officers.

Scotland Yard said 26 policemen were injured with eight officers - one suffering head injuries - admitted to hospital. They have all since been discharged.

London Ambulance Service said paramedics treated 11 other people, 10 of whom were taken to hospital.

A total of 55 people have been arrested for offences including violent disorder, burglary and theft.

The violence erupted after more than 100 people staged a vigil for Mark Duggan, marching from the local Broadwater Farm area to Tottenham police station.

Mr Duggan's family has told Sky News they do not condone the rioting.

In an exclusive interview with Sky News, the older brother of Mr Duggan called for an end to the violence.

Shaun Hall said he did not want any rioting carried out in his brother's name.

"The family's devastated. We don't want Mark portrayed as some kind of gangster. He was a good man, a family man," he said.

"We do not condone what happened, we are peaceful people

We are grieving and just trying to come to terms with everything that has happened. We do not want this happening in his name."

He added: "I know people are frustrated, they're angry out there... but I would say, please try to hold it down."

The area at the centre of the disorder has been sealed off in Tottenham High Road, where the crowd set fire to buildings, bins and vehicles.

A branch of supermarket Aldi was also set ablaze, and reports said looters had targeted JJB Sports.

London Tottenham
Petrol bombs were thrown, shops looted and 26 officers hurt during riots in Tottenham - prompting criticism of the police from the area's MP.

Violent Riot Ravages Tottenham After Shooting
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Petrol bombs were thrown, shops looted and 26 officers hurt during riots in Tottenham - prompting criticism of the police from the area's MP.

David Lammy said officers should have stepped in earlier to combat "small initial skirmishes" in the disturbance - which followed a protest over the fatal shooting of a man by police

The area at the centre of the disorder has now been sealed off in Tottenham High Road, where a crowd of around 300 had set fire to buildings, bins and vehicles.

Eight of 26 police officers hurt were taken to hospital - with at least one suffering head injuries - after violence that lasted from late on Saturday night into Sunday morning.

A London Ambulance Service spokeswoman said paramedics had treated a total of 11 people, 10 of whom were taken to hospital. Police say 42 people were arrested.

By the early hours of Sunday, many protesters had moved to nearby Tottenham Hale retail park, where some were spotted looting PC World and JD Sports.

Sky's Simon Newton, in Tottenham, said he saw youths wheeling out televisions and bags of clothes, but that police were not at the scene.
Violent Riot Ravages Tottenham After Shooting

Petrol bombs were thrown, shops looted and 26 officers hurt during riots in Tottenham - prompting criticism of the police from the area's MP.

David Lammy said officers should have stepped in earlier to combat "small initial skirmishes" in the disturbance - which followed a protest over the fatal shooting of a man by police

The area at the centre of the disorder has now been sealed off in Tottenham High Road, where a crowd of around 300 had set fire to buildings, bins and vehicles.

Eight of 26 police officers hurt were taken to hospital - with at least one suffering head injuries - after violence that lasted from late on Saturday night into Sunday morning.

Shops on Tottenham High Road were targeted

A London Ambulance Service spokeswoman said paramedics had treated a total of 11 people, 10 of whom were taken to hospital. Police say 42 people were arrested.

By the early hours of Sunday, many protesters had moved to nearby Tottenham Hale retail park, where some were spotted looting PC World and JD Sports.

Sky's Simon Newton, in Tottenham, said he saw youths wheeling out televisions and bags of clothes, but that police were not at the scene.

Daylight Looters Caught In The Act
:: Just hours after violence raged yards away in the centre of Tottenham, Sky News cameras caught people brazenly looting a local sports shop in broad daylight.

Around 120 people had earlier staged a vigil for shot man Mark Duggan, marching from the local Broadwater Farm area to Tottenham police station.

The 29-year-old father-of-four died at the scene on Thursday.

Violence escalated shortly after dark, when protesters set fire to two police cars and a double decker bus.

The cars, which were parked around 200 yards from the police station, were set upon shortly after dark.

"I don't think anyone could have forseen that such a peaceful and proper protest vigil would evolve into something like this."

Metropolitan Police commander Adrian Hanstock

Local MP David Lammy condemned "mindless" people involved in the rioting - but also criticised police for their handling of the situation.

"A community that was already hurting has now had the heart ripped out of it," he said.

"Many (of the rioters) were not from Tottenham and had come from far beyond this community, intent on causing violence.

"What happened here on Thursday night raised huge questions and we need answers, but the response to that is not to loot (and) to rob.

"This is an attack on Tottenham and ordinary people. There are questions about the nature of the escalation of this violence and the nature of the policing that led up to it.

"It seemed to go on for many hours before we saw the type of policing that I think is appropriate.

Timeline: Events Leading Up To Riots

"I think small skirmishes initially should have been stopped far quicker."

Metropolitan Police CommanderAdrian Hanstock said: "The death of Mark Duggan was absolutely regrettable.

"A peaceful demonstration was hijacked by a small number of a criminal element, that used that event for their own gain.

"We kept a dignified presence at the vigil. Our preparation was in place and the contingence we had needed to be proportionate to the levels of concern we had in the community.

Rioters left debris scattered. Picture: Sky reporter Simon Newton

"It was violence that could not have been anticipated on that scale. As soon as we saw the level, we moved all our available resources, bearing in mind this was at midnight on a Sunday.

"I don't think anyone could have forseen that such a peaceful and proper protest vigil would evolve into something like this."

Downing Street issued a statement condemning the violence as "utterly unnacceptable".

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A Metropolitan Police spokesman said: "Missiles were thrown at them. One was set alight and one was pushed into the middle of the High Road."

A branch of Aldi supermarket was also set on fire, and reports indicated looters had targeted JJB Sports.

The Met opened their Gold Command Control centre, in south London - normally only used for major incidents, such as the Royal wedding and the student protests.

Birmingham - Handsworth
A police station in Handsworth Birmingham has been set on fire

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lollywood — Wed, 10 Aug 2011 - 23:15

[quote=Lilly]maybe i actually meant...

ROTTTTTTTTTTTTIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS

[size=5] i might not have meant it then, but i do now [/size][/quote]

Don't eat too much of them because then you would need to riot to digest them

lollywood — Thu, 11 Aug 2011 - 02:17

[quote=ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE]Peace, unity and prayers on dudley road, for the hereos of bham <3 🙂

A guy speaking at the memorial (he's got a very strong accent! lol)
[/quote]

I wonder if they are going to build a memorial for the 3 guys that died?

Or if not a memorial then a slate with there names on so that they could be remembered in years to come

LookingToSee — Thu, 11 Aug 2011 - 17:15

[quote=lollywood][quote=ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE]Peace, unity and prayers on dudley road, for the hereos of bham <3 🙂

A guy speaking at the memorial (he's got a very strong accent! lol)
[/quote]

I wonder if they are going to build a memorial for the 3 guys that died?

Or if not a memorial then a slate with there names on so that they could be remembered in years to come[/quote]

isnt word of mouth enough? isnt memories enough? do we need to build a memorial? i dont think so.

lollywood — Thu, 11 Aug 2011 - 17:35

[quote=Lilly]

isnt word of mouth enough? isnt memories enough? do we need to build a memorial? i dont think so.
[/quote]

It would be something that the forth coming generations could look at, it could even become a part of history over time

lollywood — Thu, 11 Aug 2011 - 17:48

The Government starts to take some action

David Cameron warns council tenants they could be evicted if they are found to be involved in rioting in English towns and cities

The public express there anger

The e-petition entitled “Convicted London rioters should loose all benefits” has now passed the threshold of 100,000 signatures and has been passed to the Backbench Business Committee to consider for debate. It will continue to be available for signature once the site is re-opened.

LookingToSee — Thu, 11 Aug 2011 - 18:08

[quote=lollywood][quote=Lilly]

isnt word of mouth enough? isnt memories enough? do we need to build a memorial? i dont think so.
[/quote]

It would be something that the forth coming generations could look at, it could even become a part of history over time[/quote]

i dont see the point...

You — Thu, 11 Aug 2011 - 18:17

[quote=Lilly]i dont see the point...[/quote]

It is about recognition - God made us as individuals, and with distinctions etc too. The qur'an mentions that we were made in tribes so that we could be recognised.

Other than that, many tribe names are actually linked to a trade - there will be tribes called "blacksmith", "potter", "farmer", "barber" etc and such things are something that naturally developed over time.

There is no harm to them unless they are used to divide. But its the sme with evreything, and if you get rid of every "pointless" thing in life, life will also cease to have a point.

lollywood — Thu, 11 Aug 2011 - 18:38

[quote=You][quote=Lilly]i dont see the point...[/quote]

It is about recognition - God made us as individuals, and with distinctions etc too. The qur'an mentions that we were made in tribes so that we could be recognised.

Other than that, many tribe names are actually linked to a trade - there will be tribes called "blacksmith", "potter", "farmer", "barber" etc and such things are something that naturally developed over time.

There is no harm to them unless they are used to divide. But its the sme with evreything, and if you get rid of every "pointless" thing in life, life will also cease to have a point.[/quote]

The post above was about the Memorial not caste system

The caste things is here http://www.therevival.co.uk/forum/general/8798

lollywood — Thu, 11 Aug 2011 - 21:39

Get ready for price hicks and tax rises

LONDON (Reuters) - Damage caused by riots in London and other cities this week will cost more than 200 million pounds says the Association of British Insurers

All them cuts and now 200 million pounds worth of damage,had they not cut so much and so fast in the first place maybe we might not be in the situation we are in now?

LookingToSee — Thu, 11 Aug 2011 - 23:08

oops admin... confuzzled the topics admin! ya did! got too many "reply to comment" tabs open!

I would just want their death to not have been in vain. and for them to be remembered. and taken as examples if they were good people in their living.

no glorification, no overpraising the dead.

lollywood — Fri, 12 Aug 2011 - 18:49

[quote=1R4M]http://mancunianmatters.co.uk/
we were the first to break the news
everyone thought we were lying

I didnt see it personally though

im really proud of mancunians they cleaned up so well-didnt even look as though anything had happened a day later[/quote]

The thing that I like about Manchester is that the Manchester police have started a name and shame campaign -they will be playing pictures of people who they think that are involved in the lootings on big screens in towns centres, Good I say the rest of England should follow

Ya'qub — Sat, 13 Aug 2011 - 01:08

[quote=lollywood][quote=1R4M]http://mancunianmatters.co.uk/
we were the first to break the news
everyone thought we were lying

I didnt see it personally though

im really proud of mancunians they cleaned up so well-didnt even look as though anything had happened a day later[/quote]

The thing that I like about Manchester is that the Manchester police have started a name and shame campaign -they will be playing pictures of people who they think that are involved in the lootings on big screens in towns centres, Good I say the rest of England should follow[/quote]
What will that achieve? Making them into celebrities?

lollywood — Sat, 13 Aug 2011 - 18:46

A London shopkeeper who lost more than £200,000 when looters "swept in like a human tsunami" says he bears them no malice.

"If I had the chance to speak to them I would make them tea and ask them why?

Brij Sehgal, 79, was called by a security firm in the early hours of Tuesday after rioters smashed their way into his electrical goods shop near Ealing Broadway in west London.

They emptied the store of plasma screen TVs and DVD players in a matter of minutes.

"I'm not angry because that is a very negative emotion and I want to look forward, not back," Mr Sehgal told Sky News.

"They swept in here like a human tsunami, like a plague of locusts sweeping everything before them."

Mr Sehgal has been in the shop since the 1960's and incredibly bears the looters no ill will for the damage they caused.

TPOS — Tue, 16 Aug 2011 - 18:04

[quote=Ocean]BORING![/quote]
Don't open the topic then :roll:

@SI, at the moment there's a banner with "bismillah ir-rahman ir-rahim, To Allah we belong and to Him we returh" {their names} "They gave their lives protecting all of us", where the 3 guys died.

There was going to be a peaceful march tomorrow but the dad spoke to everyone and told them there's no need for it, it is not part of Islam and they are all better off going and praying and improving themselves etc.

Amazing man. May Allah continue giving him and the rest of the families sabr!

LookingToSee — Sun, 14 Aug 2011 - 01:10

[quote=ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE][quote=Ocean]BORING![/quote]
Don't open the topic then :roll:

@SI, at the moment there's a banner with "bismillah ir-rahman ir-rahim, To Allah we belong and to Him we returh" {their names} "The died protecting all of us", where the 3 guys died.

There was going to be a peaceful march tomorrow but the dad spoke to everyone and told them there's no need for it, it is not part of Islam and they are all better off going and praying and improving themselves etc.

Amazing man. May Allah continue giving him and the rest of the families sabr![/quote]

+1! too cool! Ameen.

Lioness of Allah — Sun, 14 Aug 2011 - 15:14

[quote=ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2025393/UK-riots-Haroon-Jahan…

A surprising article from the daily mail, I think[/quote]

Its True, that is really suprising:

Instead, Mr Jahan made an open and straightforward declaration of his faith. ‘I’m a Muslim. I believe in divine fate and destiny, and it was his destiny and his fate, and now he’s gone,’ he said. ‘And may Allah forgive him and bless him.’

Ameen,Mashallah,he is so strong, and has utmost faith in Allah... May Allah grant us all sabr in hardship... Ameen.

lollywood — Sun, 14 Aug 2011 - 15:38

[quote=ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE]
@SI, at the moment there's a banner with "bismillah ir-rahman ir-rahim, To Allah we belong and to Him we return" {their names} "The died protecting all of us", where the 3 guys died.
[/quote]

Is it safe to call it a kind of memorial?

[quote=ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE]
There was going to be a peaceful march tomorrow but the dad spoke to everyone and told them there's no need for it, it is not part of Islam and they are all better off going and praying and improving themselves etc.

Amazing man. May Allah continue giving him and the rest of the families sabr![/quote]

Wow religion does have its good then, as a Muslim one is taught that we are the property of Allah and he can take his property back when ever he wants and how he wants, who are we to argue with that -I think its because of this the fathers of the children are calm