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At least i'm at home unlike you, revivaling from college! :O
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
What can i say? Guilty as charged
im a revival otaku 
now im in the bus on my way home..
Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?
Why u gonna change your name? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
Never have I dealt with anything more difficult than my own soul, which sometimes helps me and sometimes opposes me.
-Imam Al-Ghazali
Be careful you don't tramp any pedestrians.
Never have I dealt with anything more difficult than my own soul, which sometimes helps me and sometimes opposes me.
-Imam Al-Ghazali
Omg! I can not believe it!
zdc complimented, I can't say it, a WOMAN!
Love is a serious mental disease.
when did zdc say that?! i completely missed that!
i dont know if you're being REALLY evil or nice.
Either way...it feels wrong... =/
Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?
I wouldn't be evil! It's genuine shock horror. He's usually babbling on about his dislike of the woman race.
Love is a serious mental disease.
NOT YOU! zdc...
Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?
U completely missed the entire point of what I just wrote
oh, lol, right.
Sorry.
Love is a serious mental disease.
:S
This has turned into a dumb thread.
I agree.
Was a good q though.
Love is a serious mental disease.
I came on here to say the same thing! (The 'it's turned into a dumb thread' thing not the 'it was a good q' - that wouldn't be very modest would it?
)
Jihad of the Nafs (The Struggle of the Soul)
oh lol, yeah!
Didn't realise you came up with it.
Still a good q though....
Love is a serious mental disease.
I got a reply from mufti regarding the above ahadith, it has got nothing to do with dancing.
Bismihi Ta`ala
Haamidan wa Musalliyan
Respected Brother in Islam
Assalamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakaatuh
Your email refers
The hadeeth in question does not refer to dancing. Rather, these Abyssinians were practising warfare using spears etc. To the onlooker their motions and movements seemed to be dancing and thus interpreted as dancing whereas in reality it was not. (Refer to Sharah of Imaam Nawawi on Saheeh Muslim). Understand it through the example of a mother who is rocking her child to sleep. To an onlooker who is not familiar with such a scene the motions and movements of the mother will seem to be dancing and jumping. Likewise, take the example of someone who is unacquainted with karate. He will misinterpret the motions of the individual to be some type of dancing but in reality these are motions and strategies that are required at the time war and combat. The ability of striking the swords in different postures and similarly defending oneself when being struck by a sword also require different motions. Similarly, shooting an arrow or throwing a spear requires a particular posture. These postures in Arabic were interpreted as raqs. One who is not familiar with the usage of the Arabic language will understand the word raqs as dancing whereas in reality the meaning is quite different. Similarly, there are several other words that may have variations in their meaning and explanation. E.g. the word zann, sometimes it could refer to a mere suspicion and at times it could refer to conviction. One who is not familiar will obviously misconstrue these woirds.
And Allah Ta`ala knows best
Mufti
Never have I dealt with anything more difficult than my own soul, which sometimes helps me and sometimes opposes me.
-Imam Al-Ghazali
It was dancing - a wardance. People can try to hide from that because it does not fit their culture, but that does not xhange the hadith.
The example of the rocking mother does not hold up as she would not be doing as a form of celebration in putting on a show for the onlookers. Nor would it be synchronised.
So no, that explanation is not valid.
What you can say is that it was not illicit in any way and such displays are not to be done in public, but dancing as a whole is allowed.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Ok, mufti, please yourself. For you is your religion and for me is mine. May allah guide you. Ameen.
You have lost all credibility in my eyes.
Never have I dealt with anything more difficult than my own soul, which sometimes helps me and sometimes opposes me.
-Imam Al-Ghazali
I thouht I didn't have any in the first place?
Crying wolf too often makes such claims to be less weighty.
I do think you taking the info I resented to a scholar for verification was a good thing though - shows a mind willing to learn.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
You just lost what ever little teeny weeny amount you had, right now, you are pretty much level to the gravel.
I have a habit of letting the scholars interpret hadith and give tafseer of quran. I don't regard myself as learned to make such conclusions.
Never have I dealt with anything more difficult than my own soul, which sometimes helps me and sometimes opposes me.
-Imam Al-Ghazali
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