Female Genital Mutilation

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Courage wrote:

Well, we can look at the lesser of two evils then, can't we. Operating to save someone's life might be the lesser of two evils, even if it hurts a bit. Do you get what I mean?

That was exactly the point I was trying to make by asking the questions.

I was trying to make it clear to you that your fatwa that 'anything that causes pain is haram' didn't make sense.

Don't just do something! Stand there.

OI! It's not my fatwa, it's just what I've heard an Imam say, plus he backed it up.

Chin up, mate! Life's too short.

Courage wrote:
OI! It's not my fatwa, it's just what I've heard an Imam say, plus he backed it up.

Of course, so it must be true.

Nowadays we get people justifying killing civilians, Jews, suicide bombings, ect.... and they also quote the Qur'an and Hadith.

Salam

This is a terrible topic started by the pious lady.

It is one of the blunders that she makes now and then.

I think Editors should scold her.

We are talking here in public about female's shame !

Wake up for Christ sake !!

Have some honour !!

Omrow

Omrow wrote:
I think Editors should scold her.

She is a sub-editor.

She can pretty much do as she likes!

Don't just do something! Stand there.

MuslimBro wrote:
Courage wrote:
OI! It's not my fatwa, it's just what I've heard an Imam say, plus he backed it up.

Of course, so it must be true.

Nowadays we get people justifying killing civilians, Jews, suicide bombings, ect.... and they also quote the Qur'an and Hadith.

He backed it up with verses from the Quran and logic. Do you have a reason to not believe it?

Chin up, mate! Life's too short.

Omrow wrote:
Salam

This is a terrible topic started by the pious lady.

It is one of the blunders that she makes now and then.

I think Editors should scold her.

We are talking here in public about female's shame !

Wake up for Christ sake !!

Have some honour !!

Omrow

Or let's quit the taboo.

Chin up, mate! Life's too short.

Courage wrote:
MuslimBro wrote:
Courage wrote:
OI! It's not my fatwa, it's just what I've heard an Imam say, plus he backed it up.

Of course, so it must be true.

Nowadays we get people justifying killing civilians, Jews, suicide bombings, ect.... and they also quote the Qur'an and Hadith.

He backed it up with verses from the Quran and logic. Do you have a reason to not believe it?


I haven't heard him so I don't know.

Did you watch the Quran documentary on C4? He was on there.

Chin up, mate! Life's too short.

Ajmal Masroor.

Chin up, mate! Life's too short.

Ya'qub wrote:
Courage wrote:
Male circumcision, if it's done correctly doesn't hurt the baby as it's not really developed to feel pain.

NOT always done to babies... If you go to Malaysia you'll see a whole hospital ward of 10 year old boys with little tents built over their beds.

Anyway, surely what you said would apply to baby girls too, no?

If someone has a brain tumour, does cutting open their head to operate count as 'causing pain' to you? How about chemotherapy for a cancer sufferer? (I'm not saying that this is the same as Female circumcision or FGM, btw. I'm just being pedantic).

Tents over their beds. Biggrin lol.
what's with the tent.

*dirol*''Biggy'*dirol*

Isn't everything?

Chin up, mate! Life's too short.

Courage wrote:
Ajmal Masroor.

Trendy Imam? I saw him talk once (on a non-controversial topic) at Regent's Park mosque, he was quite good.

Channel 4 certainly agree, I think he is their sheikh!

Don't just do something! Stand there.

Timothy Winter (he's a Muslim) and Tariq Ramadan were there too (on the programme). They backed him up.

Chin up, mate! Life's too short.

Courage wrote:
Timothy Winter (he's a Muslim) and Tariq Ramadan were there too (on the programme). They backed him up.

Unfortunately neither of them are recognised/respected by every Muslim - because they work in interfaith depts. of Western Universities.

Don't just do something! Stand there.

I'm sure someone somewhere if they heard about YOU they wouldn't like you, for some irrational reason.

Chin up, mate! Life's too short.

Courage wrote:
I'm sure someone somewhere if they heard about YOU they wouldn't like you, for some irrational reason.

I said it was unfortunate! For the record I really respect both of them.

Don't just do something! Stand there.

I said that the reason would be IRRATIONAL, I never said you didn't. I wasn't disagreeing with or having a go at you, mate! I was just saying!

Chin up, mate! Life's too short.

I met tariq ramdan Smile

Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...

Courage wrote:
Isn't everything?

MPAC don't like him.

Salam

Muslim Sister. I am shocked.

How on Earth could you bring yourself to do this !!!

Omrow

Because she's brave enough to bring the topic up. If it's too much for you son, then you don't have to take part.

“Before death takes away what you are given, give away whatever there is to give.”

Mawlana Jalal ud Din Rumi

Salam

Bravery does not necessarily mean wisdom.

Some brave people are also very stupid.

I am not saying that Muslim Sister is stupid.

Its just that sometimes she does very dumb things without thinking.

God !!

Omrow

And do you want to say exactly which stupid thing she has done?

“Before death takes away what you are given, give away whatever there is to give.”

Mawlana Jalal ud Din Rumi

Salam

The Lamp wrote:

And do you want to say exactly which stupid thing she has done?

Lamp !!

Lamp !!

If I could say it I would say it!!

I cant make myself utter it!

Its unspeakable!!

Jesus H. Christ !!

How can anyone say it!!

She is so dumb!!

Omrow

No she's not, if it's too much for you, kid, then you don't have to take part.

“Before death takes away what you are given, give away whatever there is to give.”

Mawlana Jalal ud Din Rumi

I like lamp.

Did you just say you liked the lamp because you saw it, or do you really like the lamp?

I like lamp.

GO WATCH ANCHORMAN PEOPLE.

Don't just do something! Stand there.

Ya'qub wrote:
GO WATCH ANCHORMAN PEOPLE.

plus one.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

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