Submitted by Seraphim on 7 October, 2008 - 21:47 #38
Young Anonymous Muslimah wrote:
whats chooza?
chicken?
yes... chicken.
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Submitted by Ya'qub on 7 October, 2008 - 21:52 #39
You can buy peri peri sauce from Nandos and then cook the chicken at home if you want to be sure.
But SOME Nandos are halal and others aren't. They have to be individually certificated. The guy you met on the bus might have been talking about one branch in particular.
If you ask someone who works for Nandos and they are a Muslim and they say 'yes, its halal, then the sin would go onto them instead.
And you can even eat non-halal food if its been given to you by a Christian or Jew (fatwa c/o Sheikh at Regents Park Mosque).
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Submitted by Seraphim on 7 October, 2008 - 22:02 #40
Ya'qub wrote:
You can buy peri peri sauce from Nandos and then cook the chicken at home if you want to be sure.
But SOME Nandos are halal and others aren't. They have to be individually certificated. The guy you met on the bus might have been talking about one branch in particular.
If you ask someone who works for Nandos and they are a Muslim and they say 'yes, its halal, then the sin would go onto them instead.
I think alot of Nando branches have a certificate on their walls that says they're supposedly halal (unfortunately no muslim works there for me to ask) but they're backstory doesnt seem to check out. I dunno. But yes, if you check and they tell you it is halal, then the sins on them.
Ya'qub wrote:
And you can even eat non-halal food if its been given to you by a Christian or Jew (fatwa c/o Sheikh at Regents Park Mosque).
What?
Can you pls clarify what you mean.
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Submitted by Ya'qub on 7 October, 2008 - 22:07 #41
Seraphim wrote:
Ya'qub wrote:
And you can even eat non-halal food if its been given to you by a Christian or Jew (fatwa c/o Sheikh at Regents Park Mosque).
What?
Can you pls clarify what you mean.
The Qu'ran states that the food of Christians and Jews are halal for us. This is why we can eat kosher food. But the fatwa from the Shiekh was that if we go round to a Christian's house, we shouldn't ask if the food is halal, and we should eat it. This promotes inter-faith relations and is in line with the Qur'an. If you don't agree, phone up the mosque. This doesn't mean we can buy non-halal food from a Christian, though. It isn't really an issue for me because my family are mostly atheists!
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Submitted by Seraphim on 7 October, 2008 - 22:15 #42
But what if they're eating pork or something ... you cant expect me to eat it!!
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Submitted by Courage on 8 October, 2008 - 10:45 #43
Ya'qub wrote:
Seraphim wrote:
Ya'qub wrote:
And you can even eat non-halal food if its been given to you by a Christian or Jew (fatwa c/o Sheikh at Regents Park Mosque).
What?
Can you pls clarify what you mean.
The Qu'ran states that the food of Christians and Jews are halal for us. This is why we can eat kosher food. But the fatwa from the Shiekh was that if we go round to a Christian's house, we shouldn't ask if the food is halal, and we should eat it. This promotes inter-faith relations and is in line with the Qur'an. If you don't agree, phone up the mosque. This doesn't mean we can buy non-halal food from a Christian, though. It isn't really an issue for me because my family are mostly atheists!
Yeah, but surely if a jew or Christian eats food that is really "halal"/kosher according to their law, it would be halal anyway? I think Jewish law is just sstricter on which meat we can eat, sheep, goat and camel are considerred non-kosher.
And you can even eat non-halal food if its been given to you by a Christian or Jew (fatwa c/o Sheikh at Regents Park Mosque).
What?
Can you pls clarify what you mean.
The Qu'ran states that the food of Christians and Jews are halal for us. This is why we can eat kosher food. But the fatwa from the Shiekh was that if we go round to a Christian's house, we shouldn't ask if the food is halal, and we should eat it. This promotes inter-faith relations and is in line with the Qur'an. If you don't agree, phone up the mosque. This doesn't mean we can buy non-halal food from a Christian, though. It isn't really an issue for me because my family are mostly atheists!
and should only be eaten when halal food is not avaliable.
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Submitted by Ya'qub on 8 October, 2008 - 17:24 #45
Naz wrote:
and should only be eaten when halal food is not avaliable.
Which verse says that?
I know ALL food becomes halal for us in times of need, including pork and fish that has dies of natural causes.
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Submitted by Courage on 9 October, 2008 - 09:59 #46
There is a verse that says "If you are forced by your circumstances, then your Lord is Most Forgiving and Merciful"
I heard that its three days straight with no food and no food is available to you etc and you see a pig you have to kill it and eat it to survive otherwise its like suicide.
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Submitted by Seraphim on 10 October, 2008 - 10:24 #50
Funzo wrote:
I heard that its three days straight with no food and no food is available to you etc and you see a pig you have to kill it and eat it to survive otherwise its like suicide.
and should only be eaten when halal food is not avaliable.
Which verse says that?
I know ALL food becomes halal for us in times of need, including pork and fish that has dies of natural causes.
No i think you have misunderstood what i have said.
Of course you can eat kosar meat and even pork if no halal meat is available.
What i was trying to get at is why would you eat kosar meat when there is halal available?
really? Youd actually eat pork?
Id rather starve to death.
No i was saying that haram can become halal when in need. Personally i would never touch that filthy animal let alone eat it. Theres a slaughter house near where i live. When Im going into town I pass it on the way. A lorry always goes in packed with live ones and OMG the stench is unbelievable. I have to cover my face with my hijab coz its that bad. They are all screeching away coz they know their mot is coming.
I really dont know how non Muslims can eat meat from the filthy animal.
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Submitted by Courage on 10 October, 2008 - 15:10 #52
Seraphim wrote:
Naz wrote:
Ya'qub wrote:
Naz wrote:
and should only be eaten when halal food is not avaliable.
Which verse says that?
I know ALL food becomes halal for us in times of need, including pork and fish that has dies of natural causes.
No i think you have misunderstood what i have said.
Of course you can eat kosar meat and even pork if no halal meat is available.
What i was trying to get at is why would you eat kosar meat when there is halal available?
really? Youd actually eat pork?
Id rather starve to death.
If you're in that situation your basic animal insticts would kick in and it'll be virually impossible to not eat it.
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Submitted by Seraphim on 10 October, 2008 - 16:56 #53
Naz wrote:
They are all screeching away coz they know their mot is coming.
LMAO, that cracked me up... i dunno why hehe.
"Courage" wrote:
If you're in that situation your basic animal insticts would kick in and it'll be virually impossible to not eat it.
Hmmmm possibly, but id like to think I could control myself even in that situation.
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Submitted by Ya'qub on 11 October, 2008 - 22:42 #54
Of course you can eat kosher meat, whether or not halal is available. Give me a good reason why not. It is killed for the sake of Allah (swt), and adheres to all the halal requirements (and is actually stricter than halal requirements).
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Submitted by Courage on 13 October, 2008 - 10:00 #55
Seraphim wrote:
Naz wrote:
They are all screeching away coz they know their mot is coming.
LMAO, that cracked me up... i dunno why hehe.
"Courage" wrote:
If you're in that situation your basic animal insticts would kick in and it'll be virually impossible to not eat it.
Hmmmm possibly, but id like to think I could control myself even in that situation.
Yeah, so would I, but let's be realistic, and not worry about it till it happens. If we're stranded on a desert and I die, you have my permission to eat me if that's your only option.
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Chin up, mate! Life's too short.
Submitted by Seraphim on 13 October, 2008 - 10:06 #56
Courage wrote:
Yeah, so would I, but let's be realistic, and not worry about it till it happens. If we're stranded on a desert and I die, you have my permission to eat me if that's your only option.
Thats just ew.
And again, no thank you. I can control myself not to make a feast outta ya.
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Submitted by Courage on 14 October, 2008 - 14:36 #57
But your basic survival instincts might become too strong.
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Submitted by Seraphim on 14 October, 2008 - 17:09 #58
Courage wrote:
But your basic survival instincts might become too strong.
They would prove trying yes. But we are not children that we would give in to them.
Years of learning and training has allowed us to control our basic urges (at least they have for me).
So id say we have a pretty decent chance of staying true and strong.
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Submitted by Courage on 14 October, 2008 - 17:57 #59
Generally, yeah. But you haven't been "trained" in situations like that, have you? Look, I'm not saying you're weak, or would do this generally, but it's extremely, extremely difficult, if possible for a human being in that situation.
Muslims don't eat pig meat and other humans coz Allah tells us not to, but if Islamically we are meant to eat whatever is available to save our lives, your disobeying Allah by not eating Whatevers there.
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Man gets and forgets' Baba Ali
STEREOTYPICAL!
thats meannn, some of my friends are tiny but theyre soo pretty!
and im tiny!
If you desire Allah to be persistent in granting you the things you love,, be persistent in doing the things that he loves - (Imaam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal)
define a midget.
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
Midget is a term used to describe an exceptionally short person ugly person.
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
define exceptionally short
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
To state the obvious: its rude to call anyone a midget.
Its just plain offensive and hurtful.
When life offers you a dream so far beyond any of your expectations, it is not reasonable to grieve when it comes to an end.
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whats chooza?
chicken?
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Man gets and forgets' Baba Ali
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You can buy peri peri sauce from Nandos and then cook the chicken at home if you want to be sure.
But SOME Nandos are halal and others aren't. They have to be individually certificated. The guy you met on the bus might have been talking about one branch in particular.
If you ask someone who works for Nandos and they are a Muslim and they say 'yes, its halal, then the sin would go onto them instead.
And you can even eat non-halal food if its been given to you by a Christian or Jew (fatwa c/o Sheikh at Regents Park Mosque).
Don't just do something! Stand there.
I think alot of Nando branches have a certificate on their walls that says they're supposedly halal (unfortunately no muslim works there for me to ask) but they're backstory doesnt seem to check out. I dunno. But yes, if you check and they tell you it is halal, then the sins on them.
What?
Can you pls clarify what you mean.
Back in BLACK
The Qu'ran states that the food of Christians and Jews are halal for us. This is why we can eat kosher food. But the fatwa from the Shiekh was that if we go round to a Christian's house, we shouldn't ask if the food is halal, and we should eat it. This promotes inter-faith relations and is in line with the Qur'an. If you don't agree, phone up the mosque. This doesn't mean we can buy non-halal food from a Christian, though. It isn't really an issue for me because my family are mostly atheists!
Don't just do something! Stand there.
But what if they're eating pork or something ... you cant expect me to eat it!!
Back in BLACK
Yeah, but surely if a jew or Christian eats food that is really "halal"/kosher according to their law, it would be halal anyway? I think Jewish law is just sstricter on which meat we can eat, sheep, goat and camel are considerred non-kosher.
Chin up, mate! Life's too short.
and should only be eaten when halal food is not avaliable.
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
Which verse says that?
I know ALL food becomes halal for us in times of need, including pork and fish that has dies of natural causes.
Don't just do something! Stand there.
There is a verse that says "If you are forced by your circumstances, then your Lord is Most Forgiving and Merciful"
Chin up, mate! Life's too short.
No i think you have misunderstood what i have said.
Of course you can eat kosar meat and even pork if no halal meat is available.
What i was trying to get at is why would you eat kosar meat when there is halal available?
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
really? Youd actually eat pork?
Id rather starve to death.
Back in BLACK
I heard that its three days straight with no food and no food is available to you etc and you see a pig you have to kill it and eat it to survive otherwise its like suicide.
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
Not really you could go a week without food.
Back in BLACK
No i was saying that haram can become halal when in need. Personally i would never touch that filthy animal let alone eat it. Theres a slaughter house near where i live. When Im going into town I pass it on the way. A lorry always goes in packed with live ones and OMG the stench is unbelievable. I have to cover my face with my hijab coz its that bad. They are all screeching away coz they know their mot is coming.
I really dont know how non Muslims can eat meat from the filthy animal.
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
If you're in that situation your basic animal insticts would kick in and it'll be virually impossible to not eat it.
Chin up, mate! Life's too short.
LMAO, that cracked me up... i dunno why hehe.
Hmmmm possibly, but id like to think I could control myself even in that situation.
Back in BLACK
Of course you can eat kosher meat, whether or not halal is available. Give me a good reason why not. It is killed for the sake of Allah (swt), and adheres to all the halal requirements (and is actually stricter than halal requirements).
Don't just do something! Stand there.
Yeah, so would I, but let's be realistic, and not worry about it till it happens. If we're stranded on a desert and I die, you have my permission to eat me if that's your only option.
Chin up, mate! Life's too short.
Thats just ew.
And again, no thank you. I can control myself not to make a feast outta ya.
Back in BLACK
But your basic survival instincts might become too strong.
Chin up, mate! Life's too short.
They would prove trying yes. But we are not children that we would give in to them.
Years of learning and training has allowed us to control our basic urges (at least they have for me).
So id say we have a pretty decent chance of staying true and strong.
Back in BLACK
Generally, yeah. But you haven't been "trained" in situations like that, have you?
Look, I'm not saying you're weak, or would do this generally, but it's extremely, extremely difficult, if possible for a human being in that situation.
Chin up, mate! Life's too short.
Muslims don't eat pig meat and other humans coz Allah tells us not to, but if Islamically we are meant to eat whatever is available to save our lives, your disobeying Allah by not eating Whatevers there.
'Allah gives and forgives
Man gets and forgets' Baba Ali
http://halfDate.com
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