Muslim Youths

Iftikhar —

Muslim Youths

Muslim youths are angry, frustrated and extremist because they have been mis-educated and de-educated by the British schooling. Muslim children are confused because they are being educated in a wrong place at a wrong time in state schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers. They face lots of problems of growing up in two distinctive cultural traditions and value systems, which may come into conflict over issues such as the role of women in the society, and adherence to religious and cultural traditions. The conflicting demands made by home and schools on behaviour, loyalties and obligations can be a source of psychological conflict and tension in Muslim youngsters. There are also the issues of racial prejudice and discrimination to deal with, in education and employment. They have been victim of racism and bullying in all walks of life. According to DCSF, 56% of Pakistanis and 54% of Bangladeshi children has been victims of bullies. The first wave of Muslim migrants were happy to send their children to state schools, thinking their children would get a much better education. Than little by little, the overt and covert discrimination in the system turned them off. There are fifteen areas where Muslim parents find themselves offended by state schools.

The right to education in one’s own comfort zone is a fundamental and inalienable human right that should be available to all people irrespective of their ethnicity or religious background. Schools do not belong to state, they belong to parents. It is the parents’ choice to have faith schools for their children. Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim teacher or a child in a Muslim school. There are hundreds of state schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be designated as Muslim community schools. An ICM Poll of British Muslims showed that nearly half wanted their children to attend Muslim schools. There are only 143 Muslim schools. A state funded Muslim school in Birmingham has 220 pupils and more than 1000 applicants chasing just 60.

Majority of anti-Muslim stories are not about terrorism but about Muslim
culture--the hijab, Muslim schools, family life and religiosity. Muslims in the west ought to be recognised as a western community, not as an alien culture.
Iftikhar Ahmad
www.londonschoolofislamic.sorg.uk

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wednesday here (not verified) — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 - 21:44

[quote=Sumaiya]sorry![/quote]

why is you apologising?

Sumaiya — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 - 21:46

[quote=wednesday here][quote=Sumaiya]sorry![/quote]

why is you apologising?[/quote]
i thought you were a guy

You — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 - 22:13

It would have been more embarrassing if you said it to her face...

and yes, I have been there.

A colleague once complained about me. The manager confronted me, and I had no idea whether to use he or she for the complainant. I used both alternatively, which was probably worse since he/she was in the same room!

Ya'qub — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 - 02:28

[quote=You]It would have been more embarrassing if you said it to her face...

and yes, I have been there.

A colleague once complained about me. The manager confronted me, and I had no idea whether to use he or she for the complainant. I used both alternatively, which was probably worse since he/she was in the same room![/quote]

LOL!

You could have said the generic 'they', 'the accuser', or 'it'.

You — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 - 02:36

But this was I expected myself to be corrected, and actually have an answer.

Omrow — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 - 12:12

Salam

[quote=Sumaiya]omrow why do you always sign you name omrow,
we can see who you are from you display thingy.
by the by, whats bechari? [/quote]

I asked my friend who is an urdu language expert as to what this "bechari" meant:

She said its actually "bitcharee", and it means:

"A sad woman who has no life, and, who, either has no man, or, whose man will soon dump her."

Wow. One word can mean all that !!

Now I agree when it is said that Pakis have a very versatile language.

However, I dont think that word describes you Sumaiya.

Omrow

p.s. --- If my name is annoying you, I will not display it. Just say the word.
p.p.s.- Noor was wrong to make that comment.

Sumaiya — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 - 16:50

[quote=Courage]Guys don't get too comfortable.[/quote]

i thought itd be obvious that im a girl, by now.

Naz — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 - 17:13

[quote=Omrow]Courage likes it rough.

[/quote]

Is it too much to ask that you restrain your tongue for 13 more days?

Omrow — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 - 12:03

Salam

[quote=Naz]
Is it too much to ask that you restrain your tongue for 13 more days?
[/quote]

My tongue?

My tongue is, in no way, in any need, of restraining during Ramadan.

Your imagination, however, is another story.

I was only talking about Courage's desire to fight.

After all, he is Courageous.

Omrow

Courage — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 - 12:38

[quote=Sumaiya][quote=Courage]Guys don't get too comfortable.[/quote]

i thought itd be obvious that im a girl, by now.[/quote]

I know but whenever I'm talking to a group of people I always say guys, not because I think they're all guys.

Omrow, just give it a rest will you?

Sumaiya — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 - 15:53

do you think that guys just wipe out girls so theres no need to mention us?

Omrow — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 - 13:21

[quote=Courage]Omrow, just give it a rest will you?[/quote]

What? My tongue?

Young Anonymou… — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 - 16:43

[quote=Courage]What's wrong with you mate?[/quote]

what do you mean? :doubt: i've been on here for less time than you, and im used to Omrow!
why do you always take him so seriously, i just take it he's always messin around. 😉

Courage — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 - 16:53

The way he speaks to some people is totally out of order to be honest with you.

Funzo — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 - 20:52

[quote=Courage]The way he speaks to some people is totally out of order to be honest with you.[/quote]
no its just you've got a huge chip on your shoulder, seriouslly he doesnt mean anything by it.

laila — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 - 03:32

Please people stop sabotaging topics it seems every topic has this he,she debate going on.

About British schools if you can't beat them then you must join them. Be excellent at everything you do. Afterall we spend a large part of our youth in these institutions we might as well get the best out of them.

It is true Islam's contribution to the Renaissance of Europe and world civilization is not taught but then we have to do some extra curricular studies for ourselves, this only makes us twice as good. We all know knowledge is power.

Our culture and religion may be different to our teachers, I see this as coming to education with an added advantage. We are able to see a multiple of dimensions whilst they may only have one perspective. Knowledge of living with 2 cultures and at least 2 languages is better then only having half of that, surely everyone can see this including our teachers, and our leaders.

If the muslim youth could meet their potential then they would be occupying every seat of power in this country.

Omrow — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 - 11:26

[quote=YouShutup]Omrow,

Do you look like Bob Geldof?[/quote]

Shut up. Girls tend to mistake me for George Clooney.

And You, boys have not told me anything.

Ya'qub — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 - 23:05

The Prophet ﷺ didn't ask Allah (swt) to inrease him in anything, apart from knowledge.

Courage — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 - 10:36

[quote=Funzo][quote=Courage]The way he speaks to some people is totally out of order to be honest with you.[/quote]
no its just you've got a huge chip on your shoulder, seriouslly he doesnt mean anything by it.[/quote]

A bit like effing and blinding then saying that you don't mean anything?

Angelic (not verified) — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 - 11:23

Oh just ignore him!

Let him make his comments, Omrow is Omrow nothing is going to stop him from making these remarks so best to just ignore him (all old memebers been doing that for past 3-4 years!)

Funzo — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 - 22:37

[quote=Courage][quote=Funzo][quote=Courage]The way he speaks to some people is totally out of order to be honest with you.[/quote]
no its just you've got a huge chip on your shoulder, seriouslly he doesnt mean anything by it.[/quote]

A bit like effing and blinding then saying that you don't mean anything?[/quote]
sorry i dont quite catch your drift?