"Allah's Good Pleasure was on the Believers when they swore Fealty to thee under the Tree: He knew what was in their hearts, and He sent down Sakina - tranquility (alssakeenata) to them; and He rewarded them with a speedy Victory;" (48:18)
Sakinah is the rarest of feelings, I think I have only fealt it a couple of times (and not for very long) - but when it comes, it is unmatched by anything else.
I remember sitting with about 5 or 6 brothers, RIGHT infront of the ka'bah, just before Fajr after we had completed our Umrah. Our hair had been cut and it was the first time (after a tiring few hours) that we could soak up the atmosphere and come to terms with the fact that we were REALLY there, finally.
None of us needed to say anything to each other, we just all sat there smiling and dumbfounded, looking around us and blinking.
I can't think of anything nicer than to have a daughter named after that sort of feeling.
I learned of some Muslim parents naming their children with "English" names with Islamic/Muslim equivalents - i.e. instead of naming their child Dawud (Arabic), they'd name him David (English), or Mary instead of Maryam, Joseph instead of Yusuf, etc etc (in addition, historically, i believe that other Muslim cultures/countries have done the same over time)
The meanings are the same, so theres nothing wrong with it Islamically speaking. What are your thoughts, would you consider doing that? Is it a sign of better integration? Is it a growing trend for the future?
[quote=Amal]I learned of some Muslim parents naming their children with "English" names with Islamic/Muslim equivalents - i.e. instead of naming their child Dawud (Arabic), they'd name him David (English), or Mary instead of Maryam, Joseph instead of Yusuf, etc etc (in addition, historically, i believe that other Muslim cultures/countries have done the same over time)
The meanings are the same, so theres nothing wrong with it Islamically speaking. What are your thoughts, would you consider doing that? Is it a sign of better integration? Is it a growing trend for the future? [/quote]
I just want to ask why? Surely they're Muslim as well as British? There's nothing WRONG with it, but why hide their Islamic identity? How is Jospeh going to be more intergrated than Yusuf.
i can understand reverts keeping the english forms of arabic/muslim names, especially if they are from a caucasian background. It can make things easier for family members to pronounce and even gradually accept. However aside from this i don't understand it, although there's nothing apparently wrong with it on the surface, to me it reflects a sense of being ashamed of ones identity? If i called my son Joseph for example in this country, ppl would not immediately know he was a muslim. However if i named him Yusuf they would be more likely to know or even inquire about the name because it sounds unusual to them. i'm sure in the selection of names we are advised to choose names that reflect our faith where possible, so i assume this would mean we should prefer the arabic/persian/preislamic etc version of the name over the english/biblical names.
Please note i don't look down upon ppl who choose to have the biblical versions of muslim names,i merely choose to hold a different opinion.
[quote=Ya'qub][quote=Amal]I learned of some Muslim parents naming their children with "English" names with Islamic/Muslim equivalents[/quote]
You mean Arabic equivalents, not Islamic/Muslim equivalents.
If you go to any Arab country (other than perhaps Saudi), you will meet Christians and Jews called Dawud, Ibrahim, Yusuf, even Abdullah.[/quote]
Yes, i think i overlooked that bit - bad expression :shock: Guess I typecasted a whole population of people!, names are not exclusive to any race, religion or group. I think Hajjar (above) phrased it best when she referred to it as
[quote=Hajjar]arabic/persian/preislamic etc version of the name over the english/biblical names.[/quote]
i love boys names, they all got a good meaning! my lil boys are called Mustafa-Ahmed & Murtaza-Ahmed! so cute! lol... but i love the name "Adrees" for a boy!! the name is that of a Prophet from the times not so long after Nooh (as). As for a girl i love the names "Bisma", meaning smile in Arabic but some say its also got the same swaab for sayin the name as the full Bisminllah arahman arahem or "Noor" light of ALLAH or "Noorie" same as Noor or "Iqra" i dont know full meaning but i do know that Iqra was 1 of the first words in the first sentance the Prophet ﷺ heard on mont hira the very first time the Qu'ran was revealed to him!
I cant wait to have baby again! o.m.q that would be my 3rd child though!!! makes me feel well old that does! lol i gonna wait a bit i think lol
I mean many Muslims, unfotunately. Not Forum users. If you've had a different experience feel free to let us know. But some Muslims don't read, don't question, they don't even try and encourage their kids. Of course I'm not talking about those who can't or do, I;m talking about a few I know of and what I've seen and observed.
Zahara Batool, Fatima Batool, Ayesha, Zara, Amina, Maha, Aaliyah...
I would keep my children's names after blessed personality as I have heard the name you keep has influence on your childen alongwith good upbringing of course!
A judge in New Zealand made a young girl a ward of court so that she could change the name she hated - Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii.
Judge Rob Murfitt said that the name embarrassed the nine-year-old and could expose her to teasing.
He attacked a trend of giving children bizarre names, citing several examples.
Officials had blocked Sex Fruit, Keenan Got Lucy and Yeah Detroit, he said, but Number 16 Bus Shelter, Violence and Midnight Chardonnay had been allowed.
One mother wanted to name her child O.crnia using text language, but was later persuaded to use Oceania, he said.
Re: baby names
Ya'qub — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 - 18:03
I've always liked the name Abdul-Latif: "Servant of the Gentle". Masha'Allah.
Re: baby names
Naz — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 - 18:06
Safaa or Nissa for a girl
Uday for a boy (not sure whether that is an Islamic name but i like it)
Re: baby names
Ya'qub — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 - 18:32
[quote=love to live but living to die]
Boy: Ayman, Hassan, Farakh, Abdus-salaam, Faize[/quote]
huh?
Re: baby names
Ya'qub — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 - 18:37
[quote=love to live but living to die][quote=Ya'qub][quote=love to live but living to die]
Boy: Ayman, Hassan, Farakh, Abdus-salaam, Faize[/quote]
huh?[/quote]
i think its with an E... Faeze.... pronounced Fa-ee-z[/quote]
I've heard the name Faisal, is it the same/similar?
Re: baby names
musslima — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 - 18:47
names i like so far:
abdul latif
ayman
safaa
hassan
and samiya
and er mariam is my name and i have too many relatives with the same name
Re: baby names
Noor — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 - 20:06
Male: Qasim, Bilal, Mustafa, Yusuf, Ibrahim, Ismaeel, Sulayman, Talhah, Abdul Kareem, Abdul Rahman, Abdullah, Tahir, Hassan, Husayn, Eesa, Musa, Nuh, Yahya
Female: Sukayna, Fatimah, Aasiya, Ayesha, Maryam, Khadijah, Zaynab, Sakeenah, Maariya, Haleema Saadia, Hafsah, Juwarriya, Humayra, Umm Salma, Umm Kulthum, Rukayya, Eeman, Noor
there are loads of beautiful names!
Re: baby names
rocky — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 - 20:08
Boys: Uzair, Ubed, Hussain
Girls: Zara, Zahra, Sana, Samiyaa
Re: baby names
Ya'qub — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 - 20:34
[quote=Noor]Sakeenah, [/quote]
Masha'Allah that's really nice. Isn't it the feeling you have when you just said a prayer so sincere that you felt it worked.
Re: baby names
Noor — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 - 20:36
"Allah's Good Pleasure was on the Believers when they swore Fealty to thee under the Tree: He knew what was in their hearts, and He sent down Sakina - tranquility (alssakeenata) to them; and He rewarded them with a speedy Victory;" (48:18)
Re: baby names
Ya'qub — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 - 20:45
Yeah, tranquillity. That's what I meant.
Sakinah is the rarest of feelings, I think I have only fealt it a couple of times (and not for very long) - but when it comes, it is unmatched by anything else.
I remember sitting with about 5 or 6 brothers, RIGHT infront of the ka'bah, just before Fajr after we had completed our Umrah. Our hair had been cut and it was the first time (after a tiring few hours) that we could soak up the atmosphere and come to terms with the fact that we were REALLY there, finally.
None of us needed to say anything to each other, we just all sat there smiling and dumbfounded, looking around us and blinking.
I can't think of anything nicer than to have a daughter named after that sort of feeling.
Re: baby names
Funzo — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 - 23:29
Boys names:Israr Jabbar Ibrar Irfan Dhulqarnain
Re: baby names
Courage — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 - 13:44
I would say for guys:
Umar, Abbas, Sulayman, Dawud, Yusuf, Yassir, Abdullah, Bilal, Tariq.
For girls: Hafsa, Maryam, Aisha, Noora, Safa, Ruqaiyah, Yasmin, Salma.
Re: baby names
Ya'qub — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 - 22:24
Any name is halal apart from names that associate partners with Allah (swt) e.g. Christopher.
It is recommended not to have a name of a negative personality trait e.g Harsh or Angry or something.
But most people choose Arabic names because it identifies you as a Muslim.
Re: baby names
musslima — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 - 11:35
[quote=Noor]Male: Qasim, Bilal, Mustafa, Yusuf, Ibrahim, Ismaeel, Sulayman, Talhah, Abdul Kareem, Abdul Rahman, Abdullah, Tahir, Hassan, Husayn, Eesa, Musa, Nuh, Yahya
Female: Sukayna, Fatimah, Aasiya, Ayesha, Maryam, Khadijah, Zaynab, Sakeenah, Maariya, Haleema Saadia, Hafsah, Juwarriya, Humayra, Umm Salma, Umm Kulthum, Rukayya, Eeman, Noor
there are loads of beautiful names![/quote]
isn't that the same as maria which also means maryam?
Re: baby names
Amal — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 - 12:28
I learned of some Muslim parents naming their children with "English" names with Islamic/Muslim equivalents - i.e. instead of naming their child Dawud (Arabic), they'd name him David (English), or Mary instead of Maryam, Joseph instead of Yusuf, etc etc (in addition, historically, i believe that other Muslim cultures/countries have done the same over time)
The meanings are the same, so theres nothing wrong with it Islamically speaking. What are your thoughts, would you consider doing that? Is it a sign of better integration? Is it a growing trend for the future?
Re: baby names
Ya'qub — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 - 15:25
[quote=Amal]I learned of some Muslim parents naming their children with "English" names with Islamic/Muslim equivalents[/quote]
You mean Arabic equivalents, not Islamic/Muslim equivalents.
If you go to any Arab country (other than perhaps Saudi), you will meet Christians and Jews called Dawud, Ibrahim, Yusuf, even Abdullah.
Re: baby names
xSmurfy786x — Tue, 1 Jul 2008 - 08:56
Awwwwwwwwwww i got twin sisters xD
tell her she got alot of work at hand 😃
bless.. my sisters are called Aaliyah and Attiyah
they were going to be called Manaahil and Mahrukh.. lol but that was difficult for my grandma to pronounce hehe
boy and girl.. hmmmm.. about about Saad and Sadiqa?
orrr Ameena and Amaan?
ill think of more names lol
Re: baby names
xSmurfy786x — Tue, 1 Jul 2008 - 08:55
Girls: Humaira, Hafsa, Halima, Saher, Sadiqa, Kiran, Arooj, Anmole, Farah, Faiza, Iram, Maha, Aasfa, Shameem, Aasiya, Shagufta, Sameena, Saffiyah, Iqra, Naila, Muqaddas, Ameena,
Boys: Ammar, Mujtaba, Saad, Asad, Shoib, Zohaib, Adeel, Hassan, Shabaz, Sharaz, Jawaad, Akeel, Shahid, Talha, Huzaifa, Usmaan, Amaan, Faisal, Junayed, Fahad, Munzir,
Re: baby names
Courage — Tue, 1 Jul 2008 - 13:14
[quote=Amal]I learned of some Muslim parents naming their children with "English" names with Islamic/Muslim equivalents - i.e. instead of naming their child Dawud (Arabic), they'd name him David (English), or Mary instead of Maryam, Joseph instead of Yusuf, etc etc (in addition, historically, i believe that other Muslim cultures/countries have done the same over time)
The meanings are the same, so theres nothing wrong with it Islamically speaking. What are your thoughts, would you consider doing that? Is it a sign of better integration? Is it a growing trend for the future? [/quote]
I just want to ask why? Surely they're Muslim as well as British? There's nothing WRONG with it, but why hide their Islamic identity? How is Jospeh going to be more intergrated than Yusuf.
Re: baby names
Courage — Tue, 1 Jul 2008 - 13:15
What? A girl called Muqaddas?
Re: baby names
Courage — Tue, 1 Jul 2008 - 14:03
Yeah but to me, Muqaddas is obviously a boys name.
Re: baby names
Hajjar — Tue, 1 Jul 2008 - 23:14
salams,
i can understand reverts keeping the english forms of arabic/muslim names, especially if they are from a caucasian background. It can make things easier for family members to pronounce and even gradually accept. However aside from this i don't understand it, although there's nothing apparently wrong with it on the surface, to me it reflects a sense of being ashamed of ones identity? If i called my son Joseph for example in this country, ppl would not immediately know he was a muslim. However if i named him Yusuf they would be more likely to know or even inquire about the name because it sounds unusual to them. i'm sure in the selection of names we are advised to choose names that reflect our faith where possible, so i assume this would mean we should prefer the arabic/persian/preislamic etc version of the name over the english/biblical names.
Please note i don't look down upon ppl who choose to have the biblical versions of muslim names,i merely choose to hold a different opinion.
Re: baby names
Amal — Wed, 2 Jul 2008 - 14:02
[quote=Ya'qub][quote=Amal]I learned of some Muslim parents naming their children with "English" names with Islamic/Muslim equivalents[/quote]
You mean Arabic equivalents, not Islamic/Muslim equivalents.
If you go to any Arab country (other than perhaps Saudi), you will meet Christians and Jews called Dawud, Ibrahim, Yusuf, even Abdullah.[/quote]
Yes, i think i overlooked that bit - bad expression :shock: Guess I typecasted a whole population of people!, names are not exclusive to any race, religion or group. I think Hajjar (above) phrased it best when she referred to it as
[quote=Hajjar]arabic/persian/preislamic etc version of the name over the english/biblical names.[/quote]
Re: baby names
Hanfi_Sunni_Sista — Fri, 4 Jul 2008 - 22:36
i love boys names, they all got a good meaning! my lil boys are called Mustafa-Ahmed & Murtaza-Ahmed! so cute! lol... but i love the name "Adrees" for a boy!! the name is that of a Prophet from the times not so long after Nooh (as). As for a girl i love the names "Bisma", meaning smile in Arabic but some say its also got the same swaab for sayin the name as the full Bisminllah arahman arahem or "Noor" light of ALLAH or "Noorie" same as Noor or "Iqra" i dont know full meaning but i do know that Iqra was 1 of the first words in the first sentance the Prophet ﷺ heard on mont hira the very first time the Qu'ran was revealed to him!
I cant wait to have baby again! o.m.q that would be my 3rd child though!!! makes me feel well old that does! lol i gonna wait a bit i think lol
Re: baby names
Courage — Sat, 5 Jul 2008 - 09:03
Iqra means to read and recite. Something many of us don't do.
Re: baby names
Naz — Sun, 6 Jul 2008 - 12:26
[quote=Courage]Iqra means to read and recite. Something many of us don't do.[/quote]
How do you know?
Re: baby names
Courage — Wed, 9 Jul 2008 - 12:22
I mean many Muslims, unfotunately. Not Forum users. If you've had a different experience feel free to let us know. But some Muslims don't read, don't question, they don't even try and encourage their kids. Of course I'm not talking about those who can't or do, I;m talking about a few I know of and what I've seen and observed.
Re: baby names
Angelic (not verified) — Wed, 9 Jul 2008 - 12:54
My favour names for boys are:
Muhammad, Ahmad, Mahdi, Taha, Ali, Hassan, Hussain, Hammad.....
Girls:
Zahara Batool, Fatima Batool, Ayesha, Zara, Amina, Maha, Aaliyah...
I would keep my children's names after blessed personality as I have heard the name you keep has influence on your childen alongwith good upbringing of course!
Re: baby names
Ya'qub — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 - 14:45
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7522952.stm
Re: baby names
Courage — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 - 14:47
I was just reading that a few seconds ago!