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Arguments driven by a vitriolic hatred of other people's posts and views - and not for the sake of Allah.... hmmmmm
Remember that when you stand in front of him and each post you made will be enquired into...
It may also be for the sake of Allah and it may have started due to religious reasons, but it would be disingenuous of me to pretend that I do not despise Anon1, in person, in actions and in views (so, no it is not just limited to the posts and views of Anon1 - "you are what you" do and this means her posts are her - just like mine are me - and any separation and pretence to being misunderstood etc is delusion).
I wont pretend that at some level is it not personal hatred of Anon1. Then again as long as both are pointing in the same direction...
I will not claim or pretend to be perfect and beyond defect. I just do and act on the abilities I am given in the flawed ways that I can.
Don't worry, I am aware. Are you?
Are you Anon1?
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
One should not brag about unIslamic behavior or think by admitting it one can continue with it.
One should repent sincerely that one has erred and fix the problem - not continue with it.
It is no justification if you think the other person has isues with intention - as the Prophet(saw) told one of the companions, can you read their heart?
I can read the words and I will base my judgement on them. I am not perfect and I will not claim perfection.
I do believe that my hatred of Anon1 was atleast initially and partially based on the content and mannerisms of her posts - denying qur'an and sunnah, jumping on people when they tried to do good or asked questions in an open manner, but to pretend that it is limited to that would be disingenious of me.
I personally despise (the late) Ariel Sharon and Tony Blair too. It may have also started off on moral/religious grounds, but is it just that now? I doubt it.
I am not bragging but admitting that I am not perfect - there is a big difference between the two. I accept the ahadith even if I am unable to action on them fully. It is not my way to reject the truth if it is inconvenient to me.
Atleast my posts and ideals were from Islamic concepts while Anon1 often seemed to start from the angle of scorn and anger and seemed to have the only aim of trying and show intellectual superiority.
I will not pretend to be perfect or play in a game to show how I am better than others.
Are you Anon1?
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
You should be careful when you make allegations of what your opponent's intentions are - you appear not to agree with the prophet's advice!
I accept the hadith. I am however a flawed individual that cannot always be perfect.
I also personally despise Ariel Sharon and Tony Blair too.
Besides, are you saying that we cannot judge you by your own words?
Do you accept the hadith?
I remember only yesterday Anon1 was talking about my intentions and agendas... would the hadith apply there too or is it too inconvenient in that case?
Are you Anon1?
Good thing I dont hold to the ideal of free speech - it allows me to censor voices...
The damage caused by the presence of Anon1 is that young people who have questions and concerns and want to discuss Islam are having to think twice before they post their questions and comments because they feel they will be personally attacked. This is forcing them to use alternative means that are more private and less likely to be invaded by Anon1.
All great except that they then ask me and I am not a scholar and I cannot give the answers that they need or deserve - if those same questions were asked on the forums, other more knowledgeable people would be able to post and correct me where I am wrong or offer alternative views.
The presence of Anon1 prevents all that because the people are hesitating to post due to anon1 jumping on them to show how they are intellectually inferior to her, using their posts as a platform to feel all superior instead of actually engaging with them in a relaxed environment.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
So others do haram according to you justifies you doing haram... hmmmm....
Maybe, just maybe, on the day of judgement when they want your good deeds for your insults your above defence may pose problematic - to think you will get their good deeds in return may be difficult if they argue that they undertook political analysis to protect Muslims given their perception of your agenda and its similarity with that of the government.
A credible argument as political analysis is necessary in dawa/hisaabah and does not require certainties but probabilties according to many scholars...
You could potentially be stuck on that day...
Potentially, I could be stuck. I will leave the judgement in the hands of Allah (swt), because trying to preclude it would be disingenious.
No it doesn't.Two wrongs don't make a right. but I admit to being flawed and am not above mistake.
Wait, were you not arguing that you cannot see someones intentions? what is all this talk about agendas again? From there can I assume hypocrisy or can I not? I can't see what is in the soul, but I can see what is typed... quite the dilemma.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
are you Muslim?
Read carefully:
if they argue that they undertook political analysis to protect Muslims given their perception of your agenda and its similarity with that of the government.
semantics shemantics.
Atleast have the guts to be honest.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
to get back to the discussion
personally we shouldnt have non members, everyone who wants to be taken seriously should register
but since we allow non members then anon should not be banned
if anyone disagrees with her then discuss/debate or ignore her
simples!
As of today only members can post in most places.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
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