Makkah is becoming like Las Vegas?

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[b]Changing essence of Makkah[/b]

3/10/2007
By: Hassan M. Fattah
New York Times

MECCA, Saudi Arabia - Five times a day across the globe devout Muslims face this city in prayer, focused on a site where they believe Abraham built a temple to God. The spot is also the place Muslims are expected to visit at least once in their lives.

Now as they make the pilgrimage clothed in simple white cotton wraps, they will see something other than the stark black cube known as the Kaaba, which is literally the center of the Muslim world. They will also see Starbucks. And Cartier and Tiffany. And H&M and Topshop.

The Abraj al Bait Mall - one of the largest in Saudi Arabia, outfitted with flat-panel monitors with advertisements and announcements, neon lights, an amusement park ride, fast-food restaurants and a lingerie shop - has been built directly across from Islam's holiest site.

Not everyone considers this progress.

"Mecca is becoming like Las Vegas, and that is a disaster," said Ali al-Ahmed, director of the Institute for Gulf Affairs in Washington, a Saudi opposition research organization. "It will have a disastrous effect on Muslims because going to Mecca will have no feeling. There is no charm anymore. All you see is glass and cement."

The mall, which opened a week before the annual pilgrimage, called the hajj, in December, is the first phase in a $13 billion construction boom in Mecca that promises to change how this city, forbidden to everyone but Muslims, looks and feels.

The Abraj al Bait housing and hotel complex, a 1.5-million-square-yard development that will include a towering hotel, has begun to redraw the skyline of this ancient religious city.

When the project is completed in 2009, it will include the seventh tallest building in the world, its developers say, with a hospital, hotels and prayer halls. A public-announcement system pipes in prayers from the Grand Mosque across the way, and worshipers can join the masses simply by opening their draperies.

In nearby Jabal Omar, an entire mountain is being flattened to make way for a huge hotel and high-rise complex. And elsewhere, cranes dot the skyline with up to 130 new high-rise towers planned for the area.

"This is the end of Mecca," said Dr. Irfan Ahmed in London. He has formed the Islamic Heritage Foundation to try to preserve the Islamic history of Mecca, Medina, the second holiest city, and other important religious sites in Saudi Arabia. "Before, even in the days of the Ottomans, none of the buildings in Mecca towered higher than the Grand Mosque. Now these are much higher and more disrespectful."

Money is certainly one of the motivators in the building boom. Every year, up to four million people descend on this city during the pilgrimage, while a stream continues to flow through here during the year, spending an average $2,000 to $3,000 to stay, eat and shop.

Billboards along the way to Mecca remind investors of the potential earnings from owning an apartment here; some claim a 25 percent return on investment. Advertisements on Arab satellite television channels remind viewers that "you, too, can have the opportunity to enjoy this blessed view."

Muhammad al-Abboud, a real estate agent, recounts tales of Pakistani businessmen plunking down $15 million to buy several apartments at a time. Saudi princes own entire floors.

A three-bedroom apartment here runs about $3 million, Mr. Abboud said. One directly overlooking the Grand Mosque can reach $5 million.

Critics of the development complain that the result is gated communities where worshipers can separate themselves from the crowds, thereby violating the spirit of the hajj, where all stand equal before God.

"All of Mecca is a sanctuary," Mr. Abboud said. "So how could something like this not be snapped up?" But some groups say the building boom also has religious motives. They accuse the archconservative Salafi, who hold great sway in Saudi Arabia, of seeking to eliminate historic spots, fearing that these sites would become objects of worship themselves.

Dr. Ahmed of London has cataloged the destruction of more than 300 separate antiquity sites, including cemeteries and mosques. He says the house where the Prophet Muhammad lived was razed and today a dilapidated library, with its windows and doors shuttered, stands in its place.

"It is not respecting the Kaaba, not respecting the house of God or the environment of the sanctuary," Sami Angawi, a Saudi architect who wants to preserve Mecca's heritage, said of the development. "You are not supposed to even cut a tree in this city, so how could you blow up a mountain? The Islamic laws have been broken."

Progress has exacted a heavy price in Mecca. More pilgrims than ever can come here, thanks to billions spent on tunnels and infrastructure to accommodate them. But in exchange, the city's once famed night market, where pilgrims brought their wares to sell, is gone. The Meccan homes and buildings that filled the area near the mosque were demolished in the 1970s to enlarge the mosque. The neighborhoods and families who lived near the mosque and welcomed pilgrims have long since moved away.

Mecca has long been a commercial as well as a religious center, but increasingly global brands dominate here.

Mr. Angawi, the Saudi architect, has led a lonely campaign within the kingdom to bring attention to the destruction of the historic sites. Dr. Ahmed has worked to lobby Asian and Arab governments to press the Saudis to stop such demolitions. And Mr. Ahmed, in Washington, has built a database of the historic spots now destroyed. Many Muslims inside and outside Saudi Arabia have remained silent about the issues, they say, fearing the loss of financing from Saudi Arabia for religious institutions and projects.

Saudi officials say they have been painstakingly preserving the Islamic artifacts they find, and operate two small museums in Mecca. In all, they say, more than $19 billion has been spent on preserving the country's Muslim heritage. They dismiss their critics as cranks who have no following.

Developers and real estate agents, meanwhile, say the construction makes room for even more Muslims to take part in the hajj, and therefore serves the greater good.

That suggests that the changes are far from over.

"Mecca has never been changed like it has now," Mr. Angawi said. "What you see now is only 10 percent of what's to come. What is coming is much, much worse."

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Shocking :shock:

Is there any hadith which mentions that this would happen ???

That is going to be very claustrophobic...

"FHPE" wrote:
Shocking :shock:

Is there any hadith which mentions that this would happen ???

Actually, when i first read about this, i thought of this hadith: :shock:

Abu Hurayra reported that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "The Final Hour will not come until people compete with one another in the height of their buildings."

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'Umar ibn al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, wrote to his workers telling them: "Do not make your buildings tall. That will come about in the worst of your days."'

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May Allah shine sweet faith upon you this day and times beyond. May your heart be enriched with peace, and may your home be blessed always. Ameen.

"Amal" wrote:
"FHPE" wrote:
Shocking :shock:

Is there any hadith which mentions that this would happen ???

Actually, when i first read about this, i thought of this hadith: :shock:

Abu Hurayra reported that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "The Final Hour will not come until people compete with one another in the height of their buildings."

and

'Umar ibn al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, wrote to his workers telling them: "Do not make your buildings tall. That will come about in the worst of your days."'

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Really worrying, .......... and Makkah of all cities. I suppose "Greed" and love of money/acquisition of wealth is a major factor !

how can u actually say its out of greed???? you cant!!!! your opinions r soo lame and useless!! so what if theres tall buldings in Makkah????? BIG DEAL!!!

The road to success is always under construction!!

Before getting so heavy handed in the reply..........reading my post would clarify that I am "supposing" and not "saying" ..............

And if you read what "Amal" wrote when quoting "Umar ibn al khatttab" (RAH) that tall buildings will come about in the worst of days............that is a big deal !!!!!!!!!

I think you guys need a lil perspecective on this.

Firstly the holy city of Makkah and Las Vegas are on different sides of the morality spectrum. One being the holiest of the holy (Makkah) while the other being the city of all major sins (Vegas). So to say the two are merging is a really serious accusation.

Tall buildings have been around for ages, its not something thats new. But the Kabbah being swallowed up by all these tall buildings must be a sign of the end of days.

Judging from the pictures I dont think its a good idea for this building...whatever it is to be finished as it seems to overshadow the Kabbah. Just looking at the picture your eyes are likely to be more drawn to the building rather than the Kabbah. Im guessing gold must have exchanged hands to allow the building of this monstrosity.

Who actually owns the building? Without know who owns it and for what purpose i will retain judgement as to the root cause.

Back in BLACK

"FHPE" wrote:
Before getting so heavy handed in the reply..........reading my post would clarify that I am "supposing" and not "saying" ..............

And if you read what "Amal" wrote when quoting "Umar ibn al khatttab" (RAH) that tall buildings will come about in the worst of days............that is a big deal !!!!!!!!!

chill out!! i was only sayin!!! no need 2 get vexed!!

The road to success is always under construction!!

All this is what you get when you follow the Americans; they tend to force their way of life on you; so don't you be surprised to see a lap dancing clubs in the holy city. They want to turn it into Las Vegas where all sort of prostitution, drugs, sex, and gamblings are legalised for kids. Ladies cannot even wear a hijab there. God curse them.

Ayatollah rightly named America as "Great Satan".

You know what else you get when you follow Americans?

The brilliant idea of wearing [i]ties[/i] with suits! I mean seriously, is it that confusing for persians to pull off a half windsor?!

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They accuse the Salafi, who hold great sway in Saudi Arabia, of seeking to eliminate historic spots,[b] fearing that these sites would become objects of worship themselves.[/b]

probably one of the few times I would have to agree with the Salafi's.

from my experiences of when i went there, although there are all these high rise buildings, shopping malls, wonderful places to dine.. it cannot be compared with the magical beauty of the Masjid al Haram and the Kabah.

One thing that was good was that they've kept the Haram in Madina in good order. you'll notice when you go there that every single building there surrounding the Haram is of the same height.

one of the things which I think they or us Muslims should look into is better segregation of men and women in the haram sharif in Makkah (Madinah is fine). i understand its very difficult for the authorities to maintain order, and they do try and keep the men and women seperate, but i think more can be done.

[b][i]Round and round the Ka'bah,
Like a good Sahabah,
One step, Two step,
All the way to jannah[/i][/b]

It's a round place where you go towards the centre. Totally different for crowd control to a normal layout which has a front and a back.

Besides, why is it really needed?

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

basically when people are struggling to find a space inside the haram just before namaz, and a sister decides to park herself right in front of you, not allowing you space to perform ur sajdah..

u really don't want to be in that situation.. i mean its the house of Allah we're tallking about.

i know what you mean about it being circular.. and they're doing a great job in trying to keep the men and women to sit in seperate arena's.. but i really think they can do more..

[b][i]Round and round the Ka'bah,
Like a good Sahabah,
One step, Two step,
All the way to jannah[/i][/b]