Yes that’s permitted for a guy and as for a sister going to a beauty salon that’s permitted to as long as her awrah is covered in front of non-muslim women. [/color][/b]i would love to see a proof from authentic sources for your claim. As far concerning guy, it may be permissible but girl getting her hair cutt even if it's to please her husband and choosing the latest fashion, never heard of that being permissible. Just a general question are girls allowed to cut their hair?
Western hair styles - haraam?
Published by momin on 5 February, 2007 - 21:11
[b][color=indigo]Well why don’t you show me proofs from an authentic source stating that a married guy/girl can’t groom themselves in order to look good for one another. [/color][/b]
1st of all, the person who asked this question was not talking about married couple. The brother/sister asked about those who're going to get married. And it has become very common now days where girl go to beauty salons. Islamic point of view, i don't think you can really argue on this, it depends though how it's done.
there's nothing wrong with if both of the spouses do something in order please each other's eyes but it has to be within the limit of Islam. Now tell me, where does in Islam it says that you can adopt kafirs' fashions in order to please your husband? And i'm sure that what the person was asking. You know and i know very well, what kind of hair cut we look for when we use beauty salons.
regarding the ruling on cutting hair, it's not disallowed for women but only for legitimate reasons. Prophet(SAW) wives used to cut their hair it came just below their ears. Here's the proof, It was narrated in Saheeh Muslim that Abu Salamah ibn ‘Abd al-Rahmaan said: “The wives of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to cut their hair until it came just below their ears.” (al-Hayd, 320). We shouldn't take this as an advantage, we should find the reasons why they did that. From this hadith scholars have concluded that if a woman can't handle, can't take care her hair properly or having long hair is problem for her then she's allowed to cut them and have short BUT don't have hair cut by choosing the latest fashion in the market. If the purpose of this haircut is to resemble kaafir and atheist women, then it is haraam, because imitation of non-Muslims is haraam, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever imitates a people is one of them.” If the aim is not to imitate the non-Muslims, and it is only a modern trend among women that is considered attractive, then a woman can adorn herself in this way for her husband and appear like this in front of her close friends so that she may look and feel good among them.
It is not permissible for a woman to cut her hair short in the back and leave the sides longer, because this involves disfiguring and fooling about with her hair which is part of her beauty, and it also involves imitating the kaafir women. This prohibition also applies to haircuts which are named after kaafir women or animals, like the “Diana” cut, named after a kaafir women, or the “lion” cut or “mouse” cut, because it is haraam to imitate the kaafirs or to imitate animals, and because that involves fooling about with a woman’s hair which is part of her beauty.
i hope, i've made myself clear. I may not have cleared myself in earlier post.
now i'm waiting from you to prove me that a girl can have hair cut by choosing the latest fashion to please her husband.
I don't think you read r10bbr's post clearly.
The first question (about secret marriages) was about people who are not married, nothing implies that they definitely will get married.
The second question (about hair) is talking about a married couple.
I just noticed a mistake in r10bbr's post above, it says [i]husbands[/i], so I'm assuming the girl has more than one husband
Personal grooming is very important.
Also men and women cannot dress alike.
As long as this is kept in mind and practice, and the grooming is not for show to nonmahram's, then what is the harm?
PS I am not a scholar, but this is how I see it.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
r10bbr's post mentions nothing about fashion, they simply say "...and a girl going to beauty salons and getting their hair cut...".
This is what a scholar (Shaykh Faraz Rabbani) says about women cutting their hair:
Also answering r10bbr's above question about trimming chest/leg hair:
^brother i already posted the text that says the same thing
well, even a kid know that if a groom go to a beauty salons then what kind of hair cut she will get. But whatever, i think the questions have been answered, a girl is allowed to get hair cut as long as they don't imitate the latest kufr fashion
need a new topic for this but.. theres a grey area here. on the one hand we're not allowed to cut our hair on the other if women are doing it for an attractive cut to please their husbands it's allowed, it sounds contradictory.
Also the bit about immitating non muslim women;s fashions. well their fashions are across the world now. to see a woman with layers or very short hair from England to Saudi Arabia is quite the norm. we all know most of these haircuts have come from the west yet it has become the norm across the world. so are these trends all considered impermissible, if no why not look at the origins. If it is permitted then the idea that kufr haircuts aren't allowed isn't upheld is it? This issue has always confused me.
furthermore what do you mean by "modern trend". Modern trend sounds like a euphamism for the lastest fashionable hairstyles, and these almost always come from the west. I don't see the difference between this and "kufr" haircuts uve been arguing against?
Also if a sister wears a hijab even if she is not married if she wishes to cut her hair to look more attractive for herself, amongst her own siblings and parents whats haram in that? Please make me understand coz i dont see the sin in it. Obviously she should seek out a muslim hairdresser for hijab reasons.
so what of western clothing isn't that also immitation? I also agree with sheikh faraz rabani's view, otherwise i think we're being excessive and excessiveness isn't a part of our faith.
Exactly. People people, if we want to wear western clothes it's all fine as long as its decent/modest and covers your awrah etc. In regards to haircuts, the only issue I am aware of is women should not resemble men. So if a women has layers in her hair and doesn't have hair too short and doesnt look like a male, what is the problem?!
What kind of salon are you talking of?
I get my hair cut at a salon. I tell them how to cut my hair, and they do what I ask them to. If I tell them to trim my hair, they do it. If I was to ask them to cut my hair in a particular style, then they would do that. I don't know any salon where you go there and they transform you to look like who they want you to look like. I don't see how you can label all salons and all girls who go to a salon to have their hair cut as obviously wrong and imitating the kufr. If nothing improper occurs then why is it wrong to even step into a salon.
what hairstyle is exclusive to non muslim women?
what hairstyle makes people look at a women and say "she's a jew cos she has her hair like that"?
or that "she must be a hindu cos she has a long oily plait" :roll:
I was under the impression muslimahs were not allowed to cut their hair at all (except to trim split ends) according to some obscure hadith.
So... that would mean most hair styles period would be out... including east asian ones.
nah Dave tis not true. From what ive been told women can as long as they meet certain criteria such as not immitating masculine haircuts, not immitating haircuts associated with certain ppl i.e the mohican hair cut, the spiky look punks have etc etc.
See the brother said many scholars also say we can't have hair cuts done thinking i want to look like that non muslim woman. However most haircuts and the hairstyling industry is largely based in the west, that's where its roots are, so it;s normal that new styles would come from the west, and then become fashionable, and thus the norm across the world. So if it's the norm, hence not just linked to western women then how's it sinful?
Very few women get their hair done thinking i wana look like that woman. Yes there are some folks who wana look like their favourite celebs and immitate not just hair cuts but clothing and mannerisms. But it's thinking rather lowly of women to suggest all of them follow this trend.
Most choose cuts they like. they do it for a change for themselves, or for their husbands, and yes there are those who do it to try and attract the opposite sex, i obviously don't support that sort of behaviour but not everyone is practising and not everyone is a muslim.
This reminds me of the debate on radio five today, about women and their bad hair days. Women apparently are so obssessed with having their hair look nice that many women said they've taken a day off work coz their hair just didn't look right. How sad is that, what is that saying about the state of society
tis not true
girls CAN cut their hair as long as it
-does not look like mens hair
-is not specific to a non muslim hair do
but in this day and age NO hair style of exclusive to non muslims
the purple rinse is deffo exclusive to English grannies or do American grannies don them too?
LOL
what about the hairdo's of old ladies
such as the way the queen of England does her hair and Dot Cotton
I've never seen a Muslim old lady with hair like that
maybe when my generation becomes grannies-u wont see as many long, thin, oily plaits but more of the above