there's so many books in Islam, how can you ask like that? I like it (Y)

i read this book. "how to achieve happiness" by....euh..."shaikh Abdur-rahman bin nasir as-sa'di"

there's also "the world one teen 1 and 2 (dunno if 3 came out" by Muhammad Muhammad Yayha ibn Faruq. There's some dodgy hadiths that i wasnt able to check out. but overall i found it real good.

From my sister's lips by Naima B. Robert.

ohh there's another one..i forgot what it is called. But i'll let you know asap.

if you lived close i'll have lend you those books. hope you dont have to buy them. coz you might not like them or...

A good autobiography that has stood the challenge of the centuries is Ghazali's Deliverance from Error - chronicling his life's journey of studies as a childhood, achieving the pinnacles of academic excellence and academic roles before having a major crisis of confidence - which I believe Descarte plagiarised! - where he began to question everything back to the foundations, before building upwards again...

Kamal Hashmi's Principles of Jurisprudence is an excellent text - simply and comprehensively introducing the subject underpinning fiqh (Islamic law). If you grasp it the foundations of most juristic arguments become visible to you - their strengths and weaknesses.

Nuh Min Keller's rendition of Reliance of the Traveller is a good primer for beginners on Fiqh, covering most topics, including his own notes on controversial areas like sufism.

Ibn Rushd's Bidayat al-Mujtahid (in English or Shawkani's in Arabic) is an excellent follow on, explaining the views of the different schools of thought on jurisprudential matters and why their differences arose.

Ahmed von Denfer's Ulum al-Quran is an excellent overview of the time old subject of Science of the Quran. Sidiqiui's Hadith Literatue is a similar excellent overview of the Science of Hadith and its literature.

Adal Salahi's Life of the Prophet Seerah is very readable as is Haykal's rendition - though the original two in their Arabic are classics, Ibn Ishaaq and Hisham.

Some Non-Islamic texts however very good at exposing the Western World and what it's been up to: Noreena Hertz's The Silent Takeover and Naomi Klein's No Logo are excellent critiques of capitalism in the modern world with some really good examples of what's going on in the world as are Will Hutton's The State we're in and The World we're in. Ferguson's Empire exposes the British Empire's disgraceful history and Hourani's History of the Arab Peoples is one of the more decent renditions of Muslim/Arab history.

Anonymous1 wrote:

A good autobiography that has stood the challenge of the centuries is Ghazali's Deliverance from Error - chronicling his life's journey of studies as a childhood, achieving the pinnacles of academic excellence and academic roles before having a major crisis of confidence - which I believe Descarte plagiarised! - where he began to question everything back to the foundations, before building upwards again...

Kamal Hashmi's Principles of Jurisprudence is an excellent text - simply and comprehensively introducing the subject underpinning fiqh (Islamic law). If you grasp it the foundations of most juristic arguments become visible to you - their strengths and weaknesses.

Nuh Min Keller's rendition of Reliance of the Traveller is a good primer for beginners on Fiqh, covering most topics, including his own notes on controversial areas like sufism.

Ibn Rushd's Bidayat al-Mujtahid (in English or Shawkani's in Arabic) is an excellent follow on, explaining the views of the different schools of thought on jurisprudential matters and why their differences arose.

Ahmed von Denfer's Ulum al-Quran is an excellent overview of the time old subject of Science of the Quran. Sidiqiui's Hadith Literatue is a similar excellent overview of the Science of Hadith and its literature.

Adal Salahi's Life of the Prophet Seerah is very readable as is Haykal's rendition - though the original two in their Arabic are classics, Ibn Ishaaq and Hisham.

Some Non-Islamic texts however very good at exposing the Western World and what it's been up to: Noreena Hertz's The Silent Takeover and Naomi Klein's No Logo are excellent critiques of capitalism in the modern world with some really good examples of what's going on in the world as are Will Hutton's The State we're in and The World we're in. Ferguson's Empire exposes the British Empire's disgraceful history and Hourani's History of the Arab Peoples is one of the more decent renditions of Muslim/Arab history.

for someone who has read so much, simple Q's:
why are you so bitter, aggressive, full of anger, very harsh and rude to other Muslims, very quick to label and accuse Muslims of alot of things, paint alot of scholars and organisations as secular, govt stooges etc. Whats hapened to the wisdom of the Prophet (saw), islamic manners and ettiquettes?
May be then most here would listen to you and take you seriously instead of seeing you as a nuisance, being argumentative and creating arguments with everyone. You've upset alot of people not because they disagree with you but due to your approach and manner.

So all i'm saying is use your knowledge in a better way and get your message across with less anger and bitterness.

This is just my personal observation; i have not written the above to upset you or to start another war of words.

TheRevivalEditor wrote:

Anonymous1 wrote:

A good autobiography that has stood the challenge of the centuries is Ghazali's Deliverance from Error - chronicling his life's journey of studies as a childhood, achieving the pinnacles of academic excellence and academic roles before having a major crisis of confidence - which I believe Descarte plagiarised! - where he began to question everything back to the foundations, before building upwards again...

Kamal Hashmi's Principles of Jurisprudence is an excellent text - simply and comprehensively introducing the subject underpinning fiqh (Islamic law). If you grasp it the foundations of most juristic arguments become visible to you - their strengths and weaknesses.

Nuh Min Keller's rendition of Reliance of the Traveller is a good primer for beginners on Fiqh, covering most topics, including his own notes on controversial areas like sufism.

Ibn Rushd's Bidayat al-Mujtahid (in English or Shawkani's in Arabic) is an excellent follow on, explaining the views of the different schools of thought on jurisprudential matters and why their differences arose.

Ahmed von Denfer's Ulum al-Quran is an excellent overview of the time old subject of Science of the Quran. Sidiqiui's Hadith Literatue is a similar excellent overview of the Science of Hadith and its literature.

Adal Salahi's Life of the Prophet Seerah is very readable as is Haykal's rendition - though the original two in their Arabic are classics, Ibn Ishaaq and Hisham.

Some Non-Islamic texts however very good at exposing the Western World and what it's been up to: Noreena Hertz's The Silent Takeover and Naomi Klein's No Logo are excellent critiques of capitalism in the modern world with some really good examples of what's going on in the world as are Will Hutton's The State we're in and The World we're in. Ferguson's Empire exposes the British Empire's disgraceful history and Hourani's History of the Arab Peoples is one of the more decent renditions of Muslim/Arab history.

for someone who has read so much, simple Q's:
why are you so bitter, aggressive, full of anger, very harsh and rude to other Muslims, very quick to label and accuse Muslims of alot of things, paint alot of scholars and organisations as secular, govt stooges etc. Whats hapened to the wisdom of the Prophet (saw), islamic manners and ettiquettes?
May be then most here would listen to you and take you seriously instead of seeing you as a nuisance, being argumentative and creating arguments with everyone. You've upset alot of people not because they disagree with you but due to your approach and manner.

So all i'm saying is use your knowledge in a better way and get your message across with less anger and bitterness.

This is just my personal observation; i have not written the above to upset you or to start another war of words.

JZK for your kind advice - I will think about it.

I'm not aware that I have personally insulted people and apologise if I have - I've tried to focus on critiquing arguments and as many people hold onto ideas very closely, they feel the critique is against themselves.

Calling an idea kufr for example, simply means it is non-Islamic - it does not imply or mean the holder is kafir - that requires a separate argument and evidences.

In most cases I've noticed people commence criticism of me personally - look at the case of the discussion with the editor...

Regarding anger, would you not be angry if members of your family were taken away middle of the night, tortured, boiled alive? If relatives were living hand to mouth, unable to pay for life saving medicines or operations, noone assisting them? Your sisters had to start selling their bodies due to poverty? Others humiliated daily, children shot at, pregnant women forced to abort their children? All the while, the oppressors stealing and squandering their wealth and labelling the very oppressed people as terrorists and extremists? Those who should be helping them, relaxing, watching and analysing trivia such as football, cricket, movies, eating out, overweight, concerned about their petty interests and willing to jump into bed and conform to whatever the oppressors want them to do or say? If any of this happened to your immediate family, you would no doubt be very angry and want to do something about it including changing the siutation for them - because it's happening to the ummah, and not our immediate family, most Muslims dismiss it and think at best some sending a little bit of money or sticky plasters is all they can do and should do.

Finally, most of the issues I address are widely circulating ideas and are not personal views individuals here are addressing - ideas like British Muslims, Democracy, Seeking Fun/Pleasure, human rights, women's rights, western morality, freedom, liberty, brutality and outdated sharia, attacking Muslims concepts and History like the Calipate (esp. Ottoman Caliphate) etc all of these are encouraged by western powers and their pseduoscholars and propagated by naive Muslims who see no harm in them...

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

TheRevivalEditor wrote:

for someone who has read so much, simple Q's:
why are you so bitter, aggressive, full of anger, very harsh and rude to other Muslims, very quick to label and accuse Muslims of alot of things, paint alot of scholars and organisations as secular, govt stooges etc. Whats hapened to the wisdom of the Prophet (saw), islamic manners and ettiquettes?
May be then most here would listen to you and take you seriously instead of seeing you as a nuisance, being argumentative and creating arguments with everyone. You've upset alot of people not because they disagree with you but due to your approach and manner.

So all i'm saying is use your knowledge in a better way and get your message across with less anger and bitterness.

This is just my personal observation; i have not written the above to upset you or to start another war of words.

No offence,Ed, but anon1 gave a direct reply to the topic, and u went off topic again :/
can you guys please stick to the topic at hand!
Thank you for the suggestions guys!
Google/Ebay/Amazon do not give any results for Principles of Jurisprudence by kamal hashmi :S
Lilly why do u like those books? what were the teen books about? and did u mean "the world OF teens"?

OOPS.... i know.... just thought it was a good time to say that...

anyway...
books...

Muhammad -His life & times by Martin Lings- brilliant
Ash-Shifa of Qadi Iyad- brillinat regarding status of the Prophet
Dear Son- by Imam Abu Hamid al Ghazali- small book, great read... its advice he gives to one of his students
Idiots Guide to the Quran- Yayha Emmerick I think... simple but very informative
Encyclopedia of Islamic Doctrine- by Shaykh Hisham Kabbani- 7 books on Islamic aqeeda...brilliant as it gives tonnes of evidence from Quran n Sunnah n classical scholars
Harun Yahya series
Forty Hadith by Imam Jalal ud Din Suyuti- famous book, simple and beautiful collection of ahadith

i'll add more later....

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

Lilly why do u like those books? what were the teen books about? and did u mean "the world OF teens"?

yep world OF teen. they deal with teen issues and because they go from the basic i liked it.
From my sister's lips is this autobiography of a convert.

the thing is. most of the book i read are in french =/

now the exam of over, i shall start reading again (Y)

the sealed nectar, that's what i was planning on reading now but its pretty massive (and again, we've got it in french) why do you not like it?

This is a cool topic!

maybe we're not talking about teh same book?

by mubarakpuri right? Why is mine MASSIVE? it looks like a Qur'an!

talking about Qur'an. Isnt that a good book to read? or maybe not...

it is the same. 323 pages...not much eh? *out of breath just thinking about it*

have i talked about books before? LOL why do i seem to have more books?
I like reading too. Maybe its because its a hard copy it looks like a lot. and with Islamic books you have to concentrate a lot to read them.

I like wikipedia.

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

are there books that have commentary of ahadith? :S

Most are only in Arabic. However Zarabozo's commentary on Nawawi's 40 Hadith is one of the few available in English and is quite good.

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

oh that's a shame.

If you want to study hadith and its commentary in detail then learn Arabic.

Just because you don't know Arabic, don't let that stop you.

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

oh that's a shame.

The Complete Forty Hadith - Imam an Nawawi

there is a newer edition but i can't find that on the net, my cover is blue.

what books/topics are you after?

Ofcourse, learning Arabic properly takes time. If one wants to become a doctor, it doesn't happen overnight. It takes years of hard work but at the end you will be able to understand Arabic properly.

I am currently learning Arabic and it is sometimes frustrating. My teacher once said, 'Arabic is easy'....its not. Hope I haven't put you off

Lastly, whilst learning and even after learning Arabic, you will still need commentary for Quran & Hadith.

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

how long have u been learning for? do u learn to read/write/speak or just read?

It's been less than 2 years. We learn reading, writing and understanding. Speaking is not given too much importance but one learns it whilst learning the other things.

In some lessons it will be purely memorising rules, and in other lessons it will be implementing the rules by translating text. Once you've got your foundation strong, then you will no longer need to learn rules and can start just studying Arabic texts.

Big difference compared to now and before I started. There are some verses in the Quran which I fully understand which is excellent. It is especially good in salah where it helps you concentrate as you're trying to understand the meaning. Even in the khutbah I get the gist of some sentences even if I don't know the meaning of every single word.

If you're going to learn Arabic, don't study for a few weeks/months. You need to study for atleast a few years to know it properly.

No idea. Just read it and if you consider something dodgy, research it. A better approach.

Then when you finish read another book and compare notes.