#Before you look at the thorns of the rose , look at it's beauty. Before you complain about the heat of the sun , enjoy it's light. Before you complain about the blackness of the night, think of it's peace and quiet... #
Submitted by Anonymous1 (not verified) on 18 June, 2010 - 23:42 #2
I find sunnipath most inconsistent or problematic - citation of classical scholars on a topic like this is abundant, but on the question of forced sex with one's wife as per discussions on another thread, such citations become like water in the desert...
I find sunnipath most inconsistent or problematic - citation of classical scholars on a topic like this is abundant, but on the question of forced sex with one's wife as per discussions on another thread, such citations become like water in the desert...
Whatever truth is, it is not inconsistent...
Whatever, just answer the question if you're going to.
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#Before you look at the thorns of the rose , look at it's beauty. Before you complain about the heat of the sun , enjoy it's light. Before you complain about the blackness of the night, think of it's peace and quiet... #
I find sunnipath most inconsistent or problematic - citation of classical scholars on a topic like this is abundant, but on the question of forced sex with one's wife as per discussions on another thread, such citations become like water in the desert...
Whatever truth is, it is not inconsistent...
Whatever, just answer the question if you're going to.
When has she EVER answered a question?
Her job is to find fault in others. It's how she endears herself to everyone.
No it's not allowed, it's an abolished practice. Shi'a practice it because they choose to ignore the evidences against it. There's no grey issue on this matter, may be on others not on this one. Regardless of what sunnipath say, which may be inconsistent because every scholar there may take different view on certain issues where theres flexibility, that does not mean they are unreliable, but there is no flexibility on the issue of mu'ta. it's either Nikah marriage in islam today, or nothing. But if a person is shi'a obviously they take a different view
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“O my people! Truly, this life of the world is nothing but a (quick passing) enjoyment, and verily, the hereafter that is the home that will remain forever.” [Ghafir : 39]
anon1 questioned sunnipath because I linked to an article there where the scholars said that marital rape was wrong. It is pretty unrelated to this topic, but due to the scholars there not ageeing with her view, she is not too happy with the "consistency" of sunnipath and finds it problematic to make them match her views.
But that is about a different issue really and the sunnipath link is also categorical in saying that mu'tah is not allowed.
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
anon1 questioned sunnipath because I linked to an article there where the scholars said that marital rape was wrong. It is pretty unrelated to this topic, but due to the scholars there not ageeing with her view, she is not too happy with the "consistency" of sunnipath and finds it problematic to make them match her views.
But that is about a different issue really and the sunnipath link is also categorical in saying that mu'tah is not allowed.
Some people think marital rape is okay? :o
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#Before you look at the thorns of the rose , look at it's beauty. Before you complain about the heat of the sun , enjoy it's light. Before you complain about the blackness of the night, think of it's peace and quiet... #
The idea they use is that marriage in itself is consent, so how can what happens between husband and wife be non consential? but lets leave that is the other issue where it is bundled with the idea that husbands own their wives...
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Noor's link: http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=1868&CATE=10
pretty clear in there
#Before you look at the thorns of the rose , look at it's beauty. Before you complain about the heat of the sun , enjoy it's light. Before you complain about the blackness of the night, think of it's peace and quiet... #
I find sunnipath most inconsistent or problematic - citation of classical scholars on a topic like this is abundant, but on the question of forced sex with one's wife as per discussions on another thread, such citations become like water in the desert...
Whatever truth is, it is not inconsistent...
Whatever, just answer the question if you're going to.
#Before you look at the thorns of the rose , look at it's beauty. Before you complain about the heat of the sun , enjoy it's light. Before you complain about the blackness of the night, think of it's peace and quiet... #
When has she EVER answered a question?
Her job is to find fault in others. It's how she endears herself to everyone.
Don't just do something! Stand there.
I dont wanna sound like im having a go but Anon1 i have never read anything positive from you ever! i think maybe prozac or valium might help?
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
No it's not allowed, it's an abolished practice. Shi'a practice it because they choose to ignore the evidences against it. There's no grey issue on this matter, may be on others not on this one. Regardless of what sunnipath say, which may be inconsistent because every scholar there may take different view on certain issues where theres flexibility, that does not mean they are unreliable, but there is no flexibility on the issue of mu'ta. it's either Nikah marriage in islam today, or nothing. But if a person is shi'a obviously they take a different view
“O my people! Truly, this life of the world is nothing but a (quick passing) enjoyment, and verily, the hereafter that is the home that will remain forever.” [Ghafir : 39]
anon1 questioned sunnipath because I linked to an article there where the scholars said that marital rape was wrong. It is pretty unrelated to this topic, but due to the scholars there not ageeing with her view, she is not too happy with the "consistency" of sunnipath and finds it problematic to make them match her views.
But that is about a different issue really and the sunnipath link is also categorical in saying that mu'tah is not allowed.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Some people think marital rape is okay? :o
#Before you look at the thorns of the rose , look at it's beauty. Before you complain about the heat of the sun , enjoy it's light. Before you complain about the blackness of the night, think of it's peace and quiet... #
The idea they use is that marriage in itself is consent, so how can what happens between husband and wife be non consential? but lets leave that is the other issue where it is bundled with the idea that husbands own their wives...
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Temporary marriage??!
can anyone tell me what Mu'tah is?
Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?