ye i should of put a "not sure" option cuz im not sure either! cuz it seems young but really at ten a child does know the difference between right and wrong but they may not be emotianally ready for the same punishments for crime. like the two children in teh James Bulger case but then they obviously had quite disturbed childhoods. on the other hand there will always be exceptions, so im not sure!
i dnt think i can add another option on though :S
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Submitted by Seraphim on 28 January, 2009 - 17:50 #5
Technically if you aged 17 or under your a Juvenile. And are thus likely to recieve reprimands and then a final warning before you ever appear before the Youth Court (yes theres a separate court for Juveniles).
And even then being sent to a detention facility is used as a last resort and in strict specified circumstances.
So for the moment its adequate imo.
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Submitted by Ya'qub on 28 January, 2009 - 18:03 #6
Seraphim wrote:
Technically if you aged 17 or under your a Juvenile. And are thus likely to recieve reprimands and then a final warning before you ever appear before the Youth Court (yes theres a separate court for Juveniles).
And even then being sent to a detention facility is used as a last resort and in strict specified circumstances.
So for the moment its adequate imo.
What about for 14 year olds who go around stabbing people for fun?
I know people like that. They don't stab me cos I'm a top shotter (not really, it's cos I've known them since they were in nappies).
I still think they should be locked up, or at least if they had more to threaten them with.
In Islam its from puberty (though there are earlier stages where discipline has been suggested by.)
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No it's 10 years old. when you are responsible for your crimes and will be punished according to the law.so if you done a really bad crime e.g murder you could go to prison but not if you were younger than 10 when you commited it.
Are you thinking islamically?
then the answer is u are countable for your actions from puberty.
did that help at All?
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I just wanted to say why i put "it should be younger" as an option.
we were discussing this and in a european country the age is/used to be 8 years old and some people were saying that 8 is a good age. this is because children these days are growing up quicker and satrt being involved in crime at younger ages therefore the the responsibility age should be younger too. at eight i think children do know the difference between right and wrong unless they live in a bad environment. but like i said earlier there will always be exceptions whether they are ilnesses, disabillities, bad parenting, bad friends or whatever.
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Submitted by The Lamp on 29 January, 2009 - 11:04 #11
I think these exceptions are acutally in the majority for 10 or 8 year olds who have committed crimes. Should we really out the full force of the law on them? Or is it better to look at why they committed those crimes and look at the roots of the problem?
There was a kid who brought a knife into school, and his mum didn't even check his bag, he was 6! How many of us made our own bags or lunch when we were 6?
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Im not sure.
ye i should of put a "not sure" option cuz im not sure either! cuz it seems young but really at ten a child does know the difference between right and wrong but they may not be emotianally ready for the same punishments for crime. like the two children in teh James Bulger case but then they obviously had quite disturbed childhoods. on the other hand there will always be exceptions, so im not sure!
i dnt think i can add another option on though :S
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What should the option be called?
"To the gallows I say" ?
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
errrrm :S ?
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
Technically if you aged 17 or under your a Juvenile. And are thus likely to recieve reprimands and then a final warning before you ever appear before the Youth Court (yes theres a separate court for Juveniles).
And even then being sent to a detention facility is used as a last resort and in strict specified circumstances.
So for the moment its adequate imo.
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What about for 14 year olds who go around stabbing people for fun?
I know people like that. They don't stab me cos I'm a top shotter (not really, it's cos I've known them since they were in nappies).
I still think they should be locked up, or at least if they had more to threaten them with.
Don't just do something! Stand there.
and then they will also be referred to the Youth Offending Team. consisting of Police, Social Services, Education and probation officers.
(they are less formal and the public is not allowed in to hear the case)
(FYI )
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
British law? Islam?
In Islam its from puberty (though there are earlier stages where discipline has been suggested by.)
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
No it's 10 years old. when you are responsible for your crimes and will be punished according to the law.so if you done a really bad crime e.g murder you could go to prison but not if you were younger than 10 when you commited it.
Are you thinking islamically?
then the answer is u are countable for your actions from puberty.
did that help at All?
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
I just wanted to say why i put "it should be younger" as an option.
we were discussing this and in a european country the age is/used to be 8 years old and some people were saying that 8 is a good age. this is because children these days are growing up quicker and satrt being involved in crime at younger ages therefore the the responsibility age should be younger too. at eight i think children do know the difference between right and wrong unless they live in a bad environment. but like i said earlier there will always be exceptions whether they are ilnesses, disabillities, bad parenting, bad friends or whatever.
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
I think these exceptions are acutally in the majority for 10 or 8 year olds who have committed crimes. Should we really out the full force of the law on them? Or is it better to look at why they committed those crimes and look at the roots of the problem?
There was a kid who brought a knife into school, and his mum didn't even check his bag, he was 6! How many of us made our own bags or lunch when we were 6?
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