Standing against a tide of hatred
It is not Israel's action, but the vitriolic reaction to it that has been disproportionate. There's only one explanation: antisemitism
Is it good for the Jews?
If you were so inclined, you could ask that question about the Madoff mess, the Gaza offensive, the latest screed from Alan Dershowitz – or about a new recipe for angel-food cake. Which is to say, if you are looking for antisemitism, you can find it anywhere, even in a dessert cookbook. But if even paranoids have enemies, I think it's fair to say that these are tough times for Jews.
While I would prefer to equate the fate of the Palestinians with that of Israel – meaning, I'd like to believe we're all on the same side – I think that might be a difficult political fiction to maintain at the moment. And while I'd like to artificially separate anti-Zionism from antisemitism, like most American Jews, I'm not willing to make that false distinction: when there is more than one Jewish state, the world's hatred of Israel might become no different from its exasperation with any other country, but since Israel is the only homeland, and really it is nothing more than six million Jews living together in an area the size of New Jersey, I can't pretend that the problem with Israel is that it's a poorly located country that happens to be at odds with its neighbours and only coincidentally happens to be Jewish. The trouble with Israel is the trouble with Jews.
This situation makes me profoundly uncomfortable. As the kind of left-leaning liberal who tends to agree with the positions taken by The Nation in most instances, I hate having to differ so completely on the Israel issue with many I otherwise would align with. As it is my good fortune to be American, I live in the only country that as a matter of policy is pro-Israel regardless of party allegiance; Democrats and Republicans equally unite behind the blue-and-white. But to communicate with anyone I think of as rightminded (and left-leaning) in any other part of the world is to experience the purest antisemitism since the Nazi era. In fact, in Europe right now, it is de rigueur to liken the current regime in Israel with the Nazi party, and to view the experience of the Palestinians as a form of ethnic cleansing. Hamas and Hezbollah are thought by the French and British to be social welfare organisations, and Israel is viewed as a terrorist state. Here, we honor the linguistic discoveries of Noam Chomsky and otherwise experience him as a quaintly brilliant crank, but in the bookstores in London there are entire sections devoted to his political thought – and he is read as if the distinctions between Leninist and Trotskyite philosophy had genuine consequence in today's world...
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Wats with the new threads per headline rule now?
Didnt we used to have a 'News' thread were we just posted watever.
seems to be littering the forums.
unneccessarily (dont think thats how u spell it) :doubt:
When life offers you a dream so far beyond any of your expectations, it is not reasonable to grieve when it comes to an end.
Salaam
Keep 'em coming You.
This a thought-provoking quote from the article:
Gentleness and kindness were never a part of anything except that it made it beautiful, and harshness was never a part of anything except that it made it ugly.
Through cheating, stealing, and lying, one may get required results but finally one becomes
At some point I started disliking meta-topics.
With the Gaza stuff - true, but some of the topics could be individually discussed IMO. This one about antisemitism, the one about Zeitoun and then there should be an all encompassing on about war crimes.
Best way to get a good mix of topics is if different people create topics. That way there will be more open discussion.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
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Can I call this person "moron extraodinaire"? The holocaust is irrelevant.
The stupidity of others I cannot argue against though. A lot of Muslims problems as a whole are down to Muslims themselves.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Why is the holocaust irrelevant? It's exactly what's going on in Gaza.
“Before death takes away what you are given, give away whatever there is to give.”
Mawlana Jalal ud Din Rumi
i think he meant the holocaust of jews in ww2
also i think that people need to make up their mind fairly about what's happening rather than support isreal because of something that happened 60 years ago
SMILE! its charity
While The Israeli's may have used chemical weapons on civilians, the destruction is nowhere on the same scale, as total or (I suspect) as wilful.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Did you guys get the video footage of the effects of the chemical weapons on Palestinian children in the UK?
There are some HORRIBLE, disturbing videos on Syrian TV, like a boy whose eyes had melted. Literally.
Don't just do something! Stand there.
Nope, not seen/heard/read about them.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
But it's virtually the same motivation, aren't they turning into the thing that they're supposed to despise?
“Before death takes away what you are given, give away whatever there is to give.”
Mawlana Jalal ud Din Rumi
Circle of violence - the bullied becomes the bully. Its very common.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Exactly!
“Before death takes away what you are given, give away whatever there is to give.”
Mawlana Jalal ud Din Rumi
Hmmm. They 'MAY' have used phosphurous. But they're not sure. I sure hope they didnt' take this attitude of not-being-quite-sure-but...-'meh' into their targeting of Hamas militants... oh, wait.
Israel admits they MAY have used chemical weapons
Don't just do something! Stand there.
Video report from the BBC about an injured child being united with her father - and multiple eye witness reports from different parties of how the soldiers deliberately shot at children.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Some criticism of Israel during this conflict has been anti-Semitic. People who equate Israel with all Jews are anti-Semitic and most often view the world through George Bush goggles - i.e. us vs them. But these people are not and have not been a part of the mainstream criticism of Israel and its bombing of Gaza.
Criticism of what Israel did and is doing Gaza in is due to Israel's grossly disproportionate response to small rocket fire, collective punishment, violations of human rights and contraventions of international law. Anti-Semitism doesn't come into it.
That's a bit strong.
They are 'wrong' or 'mistaken', but that doesnt' mean they are racist.
Don't just do something! Stand there.
You can be racist and not know it.
Most people are specific, in that the enemy in question are the zionists. as the saying goes, not all Jews are zionist, nor are all zionists Jews. The likes of maddoff, wolferwitz, and derschowitz are prime examples of zionists who commit blatant crimes and cry 'anti-semitism'. However, why is it that these criminal zionists, the likes of those mentioned, keep on evading punishment ?. Why, when theories are put forward by well versed academics about a possible conspiracy, are they shunned and regarded as madmen. The lies of the neo con/zionists have reached epidemic proportions, to an extent where the Muslim population can no longer differentiate between right and wrong.
The Arab world is too busy purchasing third rate football clubs, the likes of Dubai housing large zionist corporations and and allowing the 'western' culture, the satanic inhumane activities clearly forbidden in Islam, to thrive there. All this whilst a massacre beyond comprehension is being inflicted on the imprisoned Palestinian population in Gaza. No one can put the tirade of hate, or Islamophobia to be precise, to a halt. It is imperative for Muslim's to stay strong and resolute, we can only pray we stay alive to witness the return of Hazrat Isa (a.s).