sairah khan

I saw that program. The first part to it only watched it half way through (think it was on last week) but second part watched all of it. It was the 60th anniversary of the independence of Pakistan and India. I actually thought it was really interesting (esp the bit on sufism) . Ive been pak three times and have only seen my home village, that mosque (fasil mosque i think its called) and Islamabad airport where we landed. The defo more to pakistan then meets the eye. I was acutally quite shocked when they showed the catwalk. Not the actual catwalk but the clothes the women were wearing (think it were in Lahore). It got really emotional when she went to see her family and her dad's grave.

me personally, i didnt like, it just went from one extreme to another. there was hardly anything inbetween, the stuff that we are used to seeing.

so is that what sufism is about :?: not seen that one before.

i think shes a hypocrit, let me explain. remeber when she went to that remote village in NWFP, and they were discussing about the husband going off to Karachi to work, she made some point of it but cant remeber what, i think it was about the husband not seeing his family for ages, but doesnt she live in England and her ONLY mum is Pakistan?

all in all i think she protraid Pakistan in a bad way

Yeah i remember when she went to that village and met with that family and she seemed dead shocked when the women said i don’t see my husband for a year. In Pakistan men working away from home or even abroad is common for the simple reason that Pakistan doesn’t really offer any job prospects. Well it does but it’s more in the city. There was also a remark she made about men and women not mixing and how can they live like that. That i thought was out of order, just because she’s not a practicing Muslim it doesn’t give her the right to judge others. And there was that bit where she being sympathetic with that guy that drew prostitutes for a living and that woman who was banned from dancing and was made to sign a contract that she wouldn’t. Well its obvious the country and its ppl (being Muslim) are going to be against stuff like that because Islam forbids it.
Yeah i think they could perhaps had someone else presenting it, someone who is more in touch with Islam and the Pakistani culture.

the wort thing was most of the family was watching it and i was like "whoops"

didnt she know most of the audience watching it would be pakistanis?

just hope her mum watches it!

My dad goes to me and my sister few weeks ago - watch this programme, it'll teach you something about Karachi. (that was the time she was in Karachi)

So, grudgingly we all sat down and began to watch the programme only to see her chatting to the trans...learning how to dance like them...and interviewing that 'male model' about his 'seven deadly sins shoot'.

Lol. Just when it got intresting, dad changed the channel.

This wasnt the Pakistan I knew.

lol
the program did touch on some controversial topics which i think most Muslims parents would not be happy about their child/children watching. My dad would have probably done the same.

I thought Saira Khan was too easily shocked.

It was as if she went to Pakistan expecting to see a replica of London. She was shocked that there weren't many women around, she was shocked that those women that were around weren't wearing skirts, she was shocked that nude paintings weren't shown in public, she was shocked that people in remote areas spoke English and were happy with their lives. She went around strutting her stuff like no man's business and was shocked that she was getting stared at.

The good bits in the docu were Pakistan's natural and built beauty. I'd love to travel near the Afghan border, visit Badshai Mosque and travel around Sindh and Baluchistan.

Highlighting the work of Edhi Foundation and Sufism were plus points. Although, she did appear as if she had no idea what Sufism was before she went to Pakistan.

However, if you watched Sanjeev Baskhar's India and then Saira Khan's Pakistan, Pakistan comes off quite badly. It's bland, rigid, sparse and not a little boring.

I DIDN'T WATCH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it is repeated anytime?? anywhere?? I met a non muslim mum at my daughters nursery and she told me about it. She actually said that before watching the show she never considered going to pakistan, but now she would love to go there!!

I'm sure the mosquitoes will love her.

[quote="peacegirl"]I DIDN'T WATCH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it is repeated anytime?? anywhere?? I met a non muslim mum at my daughters nursery and she told me about it. She actually said that before watching the show she never considered going to pakistan, but now she would love to go there!![/quote]

I doubt it. The only other way you can see it is if you download it.

You could have watched it on BBC's iPlayer but it's too late now.

@ peacegirl all is not lost, Karachi uncovered on bbc 2 in about 10 minutes.

I saw Saira Khan's Pakistan program.
It was rubbish. I hated it. What a waste of time.

[quote="malik"]I saw Saira Khan's Pakistan program.
It was rubbish. I hated it. What a waste of time.[/quote]

you tell 'em, Malik!

[quote="malik"]I saw Saira Khan's Pakistan program.
It was rubbish. I hated it. What a waste of time.[/quote]

well what aspect of the program did you find rubbish? was it the presenting or the actual program itself. If its the presenting then i can understand but how can the program be rubbish, all it did was show various places in pakistan and the different cultures and tribes that exist. Whats so boring about that?

She spent 50 persent of the time with gays and other weirdos.
They dont deserve even one minute on precious tv time.
She is such as bore. She didn't have a clue on how to use 60 minutes to present life in Pakistan. She is not a professional boradcaster. Why did they pick her I dont know. Anyone with expertise would have done a better job.

I liked Sairah documentry, twas funny 😂

what a surreal immage of pakistan she portrayed 😂

[quote]She went around strutting her stuff like no man's business and was shocked that she was getting stared at. [/quote]

huh?

she wore a salwar kameez, which is what most pakistani women where, and some girls in Pakistan (i.e. Karachi) where skin tight western clothes. She was pretty modest. I reckon they were staring coz of the camera? or it could have been cultural difference, in some countries, irnoicly muslim countries, people (men) have a tendency to look longer.

[quote]
So, grudgingly we all sat down and began to watch the programme only to see her chatting to the trans...learning how to dance like them...and interviewing that 'male model' about his 'seven deadly sins shoot'[/quote]

lol i missed that part

fill me in

what were the '7 deadLY sins'

What do you expect from saira khan she is married to a non muslim man and wished her dad would go to the pub like "normal brits". Silly MP :$

Salam

I watched the program.

I did not enjoy it. It was just another propaganda aimed at non-muslims.

Pakistan is the best country in the world.

The program did not reflect the beauty of its people.

I got the sense that Saira herself did not enjoy making this program.

So how could she except us to enjoy it.

Omrow

[quote="Alisha"]What do you expect from saira khan she is married to a non muslim man and wished her dad would go to the pub like "normal brits". Silly MP :$[/quote]

What does her being Mirpuri have to do with it?

Nothing, and I wasn't dissing MPs before anyone starts :|
But she is what she is.

[quote="Alisha"]Nothing, and I wasn't dissing MPs before anyone starts :|
But she is what she is.[/quote]

So why did you say "silly MP"?

[quote="Beast"][quote="Alisha"]Nothing, and I wasn't dissing MPs before anyone starts :|
But she is what she is.[/quote]

So why did you say "silly MP"?[/quote]

Shes a member of parliament?.... or a part of the military police?

Why did I say silly MP? Cos she is a Mirpuri.
Silly - Because Mirpuris get a lot of stick already everyone thinks we are backwards or too cultural, uneducated or this that and the other (I'm part "MP" myself), and then u have Saira Khan doing the extreme opposite - wearing short skirts, marrying a non muslim man, drinking wine calling herself a "moderate Muslim". Its just arghhh :?

And I should have worded it better, sorry for any offence I caused, forgive me 🙁

I see. No probs.

It's OK for an MP to say silly MP etc.

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[quote="Beast"]I see. No probs.

It's OK for an MP to say silly MP etc.[/quote]

Is it really? You see the thing is, when a Pakistani individual calls antoher Pakistani individual a "silly Paki", or a Paki, then a non Pakistani who hears it will say "Paki" also, and, then suddenly, everypakistani around is offended!!!

It a African American individual calls another african american individual a "nigga/nigger" every thinks its ok, but when a non0african american says it, it is suddenly racist.

Im jus pickin up on a point u made beast, think we should discuss this. So,to save from offense, should we refrain from saying phrases, which, when said by an individual from a different ethnic group maay cause offense.?

I think you read his post in the wrong tone...

[quote="razor"]It a African American individual calls another african american individual a "nigga/nigger" every thinks its ok, but when a non0african american says it, it is suddenly racist.[/quote]

This is the cultural nuance I was alluding to.

[quote]Im jus pickin up on a point u made beast, think we should discuss this. So,to save from offense, should we refrain from saying phrases, which, when said by an individual from a different ethnic group maay cause offense.?[/quote]

I don't know what the answer is.