Muslim Unity-What Does It Mean To YOU?

MuslimSister —

Salaam

I don’t know what type of high school you guys went to…but in my high school there were many cliques.

We had the “popular/pretty girls” we had the “Gangsters/Rude bwoys” we had the “geeks/nerd” we had the “arty farty” type, we had the “Coconuts” we had the “Freshies” and many more.

It just wasn’t the done thing for the “popular mean girls” to associate with the “nerds” and the “Coconuts” and “freshies” spent all their time making fun out of each other.

And depending on which group you were part what determined where you could sit at lunch, what you could wear and even what grades you could get in school…

It was incredibility important to “stick to your own” you couldn’t be seen with someone in a less socially acceptable group as yours….

The Muslim Ummah is the same…..we have our “groups” and spent a lot of or time dissing other groups and constructing barriers.

Personally, I have no reservations with associating with those who you may want to work with and/or just happen to share similar beliefs and ideologies…..however, problems arise when people begin to consider themselves more “superior” or “guided” then others…

The likes of Hadrat Abu Bakr (ra) wished that they were a blade of grass so they wouldnt have to go through accountability...so one cant help but marvel at our own high level of confidence...

When people talk of unity, this does not mean uniformity. It does not mean that we should look alike, eat alike, dress or think alike. It does not mean that we should not have any differences in opinions. This is diversity, not disunity.

Diversity is known as being a blessing whilst disunity is a curse.

There were differences of opinion in fiqh among the Companions, their followers, and great Mujahideen. But they did not turn these into fights. They disagreed but they maintained respect and love for each other. The brotherhood remained intact. They had tolerance for the other view.

We spent SO much of our precious time trying to prove people wrong and trying to show off how “guided” we may be…

Other then an ego boost I see little benefit in trying to prove how/why others are astray…

And even if our intensive “research” and “proof” does determine how/why others are astray and we are guided……will we receive a gold medal from above? Will it guarantee us a place in Paradise?

And what about if we’re wrong…does our extreme confidence or arrogance prevent us from thinking that maybe we can be wrong?

Anyway, I’m babbling here…and what I really wanted to ask was what does Muslim Unity mean to YOU?

Does it mean being “United” with your Muslim brothers and sisters when it suits you?

Does it mean picking and choosing who you wish to tolerate or not?

Does Muslim unity depend on the extent to which you think other Muslims are right?

Does it mean Unity in public but hatred and insults behind closed doors? Too many people spend their time banging on about Unity but its just a show….

Or is Muslim Unity is a myth…is it impossible to even speak to those whom YOU think are not “true Muslims”?

Will we ever get out of the 15year old high school mentality where we do nothing but bitch about how bad/stupid others are and how perfect we are?

Share your thoughts…

Wasalaam

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Beast — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 - 15:27

[quote="Med"]U live in ur cocoones life, away from reality of what is going on. I have said my bit.[/quote]

Please enlighten me. Free me of my ignorance.

Tell me more about this [color=blue]reality[/color]...

Beast — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 - 15:36

[quote="Med"]If you dont understand what compels ppl to do this then thats yr problem bruv, not mine.[/quote]

Don't you want to 'rescue' me? 🙁

Beast — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 - 15:37

[quote="Med"][quote="Beast"]You are such a hypocrite Med!

:roll:

It beggars belief.[/quote]

:?:

make dua for me.[/quote]

Lets pray that you are not beyond help.

But you know, it takes two to tango. You have to make the effort aswell.

Beast — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 - 15:39

[quote="Med"]As stated before, Guidance is in ALLAH's Hands alone.

But this aint a dividing line between imaan and kufr so whats to rescue?

You dont understand it, then thats ur problem innit. I understand so I dont have any issues.[/quote]

You [u]very clearly[/u] have issues.

Why else would you hypocritically delete your posts from the last page?

Beast — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 - 15:57

[quote="Med"]What background check?

Work in a mosque?

I dont understand, plz explain.[/quote]

Working with children requires a background check. You know, to root out the paedos.

But when checking your internet records they might stumble upon your career in armchair militancy.

Beast — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 - 15:59

[quote="Med"]
I have my reasons.[/quote]

Is it that the fatwa machine broke down and what it meant to say was:

[color=green]A: It is Fardh upon every Muslim to defend Islam and the illustrious
position of the Sahabah (RadhiALLAHu Anhum) in every possible way.
But be careful - don’t use electronic mail, internet discussion forums,
etc. By us, they are under the watchful eye of the Shia and Jews. [/color]

Beast — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 - 16:02

[quote="Med"]I aint got anything to hide.[/quote]

So why would you delete what you said on the previous page?

Unless you have something to hide...

Omrow — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 - 16:26

Salam

[quote="Med"][quote="Beast"]You are such a hypocrite Med!

It beggars belief.[/quote]

make dua for me.[/quote]

I will do it: May God show you who the hypocrites are, and may He guides you away from them.

Its always feels good to pray for a Muslim on Eid.

Omrow

Omrow — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 - 17:14

Salam

We all know that there are some Wahhabis out there who say that killing of innocent public is justified. They claim that getting rid of heretical people such as Shias, Sufis, Christians, Jews, Hindus and Atheists is not a sin.

They consider committing such murders as God's work. This is why they would not hesitate putting a bomb on a plane or a bus.

Prime Minister Blair was right when he called such a belief an evil ideology.

Omrow

Beast — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 - 17:14

[quote="MuslimSisLilSis"]beast why did Med delete all his posts where he stated that killing of all shia's is justified

esp the shia professionals?

what did I miss? :idea:[/quote]

Don't know why he did it.

I reckon he is ashamed for revealing his true self.

Medarris — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 - 18:20

"Muhammad is a Messenger of ALLAH, and [b]those who are with him are hard against the unbelievers and merciful among themselves[/b], thou seest them bowing, prostrating, seeking bounty and pleasure of ALLAH, their mark is on their faces, being the trace of prostration. That is their likeness in the Torah and their likeness in the Gospel, as a seed that puts forth its shoot, then strengthens it, then it becomes stout, then it rises straight on its stalk, pleasing the sowers that,[b] through them, He may enrage the unbelievers,[/b] ALLAH promises those, who believe and who, out of them, do righteous deeds, forgiveness and a big wage". ( 29 : 48 ) Al-Quran.

MuslimSisLilSis — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 - 18:21

[quote="Beast"][quote="MuslimSisLilSis"]beast why did Med delete all his posts where he stated that killing of all shia's is justified

esp the shia professionals?

what did I miss? :idea:[/quote]

Don't know why he did it.

I reckon he is ashamed for revealing his true self.[/quote]

How sad and hypocritical

I'm glad we quoted him :twisted:

now everyone can see falsehood perishing and...something something something

Beast — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 - 18:29

[quote="Med"]"Muhammad is a Messenger of ALLAH, and [b]those who are with him are hard against the unbelievers and merciful among themselves[/b], thou seest them bowing, prostrating, seeking bounty and pleasure of ALLAH, their mark is on their faces, being the trace of prostration. That is their likeness in the Torah and their likeness in the Gospel, as a seed that puts forth its shoot, then strengthens it, then it becomes stout, then it rises straight on its stalk, pleasing the sowers that,[b] through them, He may enrage the unbelievers,[/b] ALLAH promises those, who believe and who, out of them, do righteous deeds, forgiveness and a big wage". ( 29 : 48 ) Al-Quran.[/quote]

Very good Med.

Just quote the Quran without context and comment why don't you.

:roll:

Beast — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 - 18:35

[quote="Med"]LilSis lying is indeed a great sin.

I have not called for the killing of all shia. You are a liar.

I was referring to priests and professionals.

Please abstain from lying, because if you continue in it,a day will come wen ur name may be written amongst the list of liars.

It would be wise for you to think abt what has been written.[/quote]

There's no way of knowing, is there?

You deleted some of your comments.

MuslimSisLilSis — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 - 18:35

[quote="Med"]LilSis lying is indeed a great sin.

[size=18]I have not called for the killing of all shia. You are a liar.[/size]

I was referring to priests and professionals.

Please abstain from lying, because if you continue in it,a day will come wen ur name may be written amongst the list of liars.

It would be wise for you to think abt what has been written.[/quote]

I don't think lying is a bigger sin then murder. :roll:

[quote="MuslimSisLilSis"]

[quote="Med"]
[size=24] If a shi'te is known to utter slander on Sahaabah Karaam then I support his extra-judicial killing. [/size]

.[/quote]

:shock:[/quote]

and why delete ur posts-

didnt u also say that its an "HONOUR" that I highlighted and enlarged ur posts

God bless the quote option

8)