Only if someone thinks that it is something from outside the power of God. Which afaik no Muslims do.
Hajjar wrote:
Stories like this footprint one and even Qasida burdah are like a dime a dozen, and they interestingly are nearly always found in sufi texts and no other why is that?
Here's a different answer to the one you may be thinking: Since for a long time sufi and sunni was synonymous, the use of the world sufi here is sort of... misleading/innacurate to say the least.
Hajjar wrote:
... frankly i see excessiveness...
To the point of shirk?
I assume you have no issue with the Russian baby, on whose limbs verses of the Qur'an appear? (that is also hoaxable - someone "writing" it on with something that irritates the skin.)
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by m (not verified) on 4 April, 2010 - 20:14 #32
hajjar sorry luv i dont know what u'r trying to say,
She is sceptical and questioning its authenticity.
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Muslim Girl (not verified) on 15 April, 2010 - 10:31 #38
Asalamalaikum wah rahmathullahi wa barakathu my fellow brothers & sisters.
Please don't let the kuffr make us deny Allah SWT's beautiful miracle. Maybe it is a fraud/fake, but in the next life Allah SWT cannot wrong us by denying this. InshAllah i hope to speak to you soon. Keep up the good work. from your Muslim sister. Allah Hafiz.
Submitted by Muslim Girl (not verified) on 15 April, 2010 - 10:33 #39
Let Allah SWT show us the way, make only Him be bowed down to. For he is the One & Only Creater. Ameeen ♥
yeah russian baby story first i heard of it, sceptical yes. do i usually read about these stories and spend time think oo...ahh...could it be a miracle no. I've heard enough of these stories from the pir that performs miracles only when he sees the £ sign.
Allah has told us of miracles of past and what will occur in future, the rest we don;t need to know Allah knows so why stress over it.
A lot of these stories are hoaxes, why do ppl make these things up baffles me, but usually money and notoriety is a big factor not piety.
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“O my people! Truly, this life of the world is nothing but a (quick passing) enjoyment, and verily, the hereafter that is the home that will remain forever.” [Ghafir : 39]
I think people should be careful when using money as a reason to question events and their reality.
Its like people say "the sign of a dodgy shaykh is that he will accept money", yet the acceptance of payment is something that is from hadith where the Prophet allowed it (and by him allowing it, it is even sunnah).
Ofcourse this is different and we cannot know the motivations of people. It probably is fake, but that does not mean that there was a bad intention involved. People can be mistaken and I do not think it is good to visit upon their intentions.
At the same time, if it is real, then so be it.
I think "Allah has told us of the past and the future, and the rest we can ignore" is a false argument - the things in the qure'an are mentioned as way of a lesson. They are not mentioned there in order to chronicle the universe.
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Muhammad Faheem (not verified) on 18 May, 2010 - 04:57 #45
Thank u 4 telling me the whole story cuz i was looking 4 it.
I'm in u.s right now.
Submitted by Muslim Girl (not verified) on 27 May, 2010 - 09:35 #46
May Allah SWT bless us with more of these beautiful miracles InshAllah, we must not deny these miracles as then we could be the "sinners". May Allah SWT bless all of you my brothers and sisters. Speak to you soon InshAllah, Jazakallah Hair..Your Muslim Sister.
Submitted by Muslim Girl (not verified) on 27 May, 2010 - 09:36 #47
InshAllah you will gain knowledge about this subject my brother.
Submitted by sadeeyah on 14 July, 2010 - 15:44 #48
assalamu alaikum
i believe in this miracle. even though the stories may vary the evidence is there. the size of the people during the time of the prophet(saw) is different from the size of the people of present times.
i also believe this because i ever witnessed it myself. my friend and i saw a very tall tree that had thorns from the bottom to every branch on it. on that tree every branch had arabic writings on them. the writings was done with something like chalk but i believe it will never fade away. many people refused to believe. some said that it cud be that somebody wrote it which is impossible because the thorns on that tree wud discourage anybody from climbing it. ALLAH IS THE GREATEST.
Submitted by sadeeyah on 14 July, 2010 - 15:49 #49
assalamu alaikum
it is possible because the size of the people in the past is different from our size.
By all means believe it. But the size then was not all that different - there are still items of clothing of the Prophet available for view AFAIK in some museum in turkey and there may even be a shoe there too and none of them will be anywhere near close to the size of the footprint in that video.
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Only if someone thinks that it is something from outside the power of God. Which afaik no Muslims do.
Here's a different answer to the one you may be thinking: Since for a long time sufi and sunni was synonymous, the use of the world sufi here is sort of... misleading/innacurate to say the least.
To the point of shirk?
I assume you have no issue with the Russian baby, on whose limbs verses of the Qur'an appear? (that is also hoaxable - someone "writing" it on with something that irritates the skin.)
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
hajjar sorry luv i dont know what u'r trying to say,
ie do you think this a hoax or not?
ps this has got nothing to do with tawassul
She is sceptical and questioning its authenticity.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
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Same difference.
So what did you guys decide?
Miracle or not miracle?
i'm undecided.
anyway, why does it matter if you believe it or not?
Is it important?
Asalamalaikum wah rahmathullahi wa barakathu my fellow brothers & sisters.
Please don't let the kuffr make us deny Allah SWT's beautiful miracle. Maybe it is a fraud/fake, but in the next life Allah SWT cannot wrong us by denying this. InshAllah i hope to speak to you soon. Keep up the good work. from your Muslim sister. Allah Hafiz.
Let Allah SWT show us the way, make only Him be bowed down to. For he is the One & Only Creater. Ameeen ♥
ok.
LA ILLA ILLAL HU, MUHAMMAD DUR RASOOLALLAH.
MAY THE ONE & ONLY CREATER RAIN DOWN MORE MIRICALES & BLESSING TO THIS DUNIYAH.
AMEEN♥
SUBHANALLAH!
how do you know this though?
yeah russian baby story first i heard of it, sceptical yes. do i usually read about these stories and spend time think oo...ahh...could it be a miracle no. I've heard enough of these stories from the pir that performs miracles only when he sees the £ sign.
Allah has told us of miracles of past and what will occur in future, the rest we don;t need to know Allah knows so why stress over it.
A lot of these stories are hoaxes, why do ppl make these things up baffles me, but usually money and notoriety is a big factor not piety.
“O my people! Truly, this life of the world is nothing but a (quick passing) enjoyment, and verily, the hereafter that is the home that will remain forever.” [Ghafir : 39]
I think people should be careful when using money as a reason to question events and their reality.
Its like people say "the sign of a dodgy shaykh is that he will accept money", yet the acceptance of payment is something that is from hadith where the Prophet allowed it (and by him allowing it, it is even sunnah).
Ofcourse this is different and we cannot know the motivations of people. It probably is fake, but that does not mean that there was a bad intention involved. People can be mistaken and I do not think it is good to visit upon their intentions.
At the same time, if it is real, then so be it.
I think "Allah has told us of the past and the future, and the rest we can ignore" is a false argument - the things in the qure'an are mentioned as way of a lesson. They are not mentioned there in order to chronicle the universe.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Thank u 4 telling me the whole story cuz i was looking 4 it.
I'm in u.s right now.
May Allah SWT bless us with more of these beautiful miracles InshAllah, we must not deny these miracles as then we could be the "sinners". May Allah SWT bless all of you my brothers and sisters. Speak to you soon InshAllah, Jazakallah Hair..Your Muslim Sister.
InshAllah you will gain knowledge about this subject my brother.
assalamu alaikum
i believe in this miracle. even though the stories may vary the evidence is there. the size of the people during the time of the prophet(saw) is different from the size of the people of present times.
i also believe this because i ever witnessed it myself. my friend and i saw a very tall tree that had thorns from the bottom to every branch on it. on that tree every branch had arabic writings on them. the writings was done with something like chalk but i believe it will never fade away. many people refused to believe. some said that it cud be that somebody wrote it which is impossible because the thorns on that tree wud discourage anybody from climbing it. ALLAH IS THE GREATEST.
assalamu alaikum
it is possible because the size of the people in the past is different from our size.
Salaams,
By all means believe it. But the size then was not all that different - there are still items of clothing of the Prophet available for view AFAIK in some museum in turkey and there may even be a shoe there too and none of them will be anywhere near close to the size of the footprint in that video.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Miracle.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
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