NO TOPIC the Third

You —

Well This is the new new No Topic Topic. 😛

For those who do not know, this place is to talk about nothing. Nada. Zilch. And everything else which according to you does not deserve it's own topic. (Or you could choose to make a blog post)

[url=/node/1781]The other one[/url] was getting a bit long... So we have a new start.

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JdV (not verified) — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 - 14:56

[quote=Funzo][quote=JdV] 8)

And seriously a Happy Birthday![/quote]
joie where have you been? i miss you![/quote]

Funzo thanks!

I love commenting here, you know that. Missing all the krazy kids but to be honest I've really had to take stock of my life and get mega-serious and I don't know if it's the credit crunch or what but the stock take is coming up short. Which is my way of saying pardon my hiding which is never personal, and lots of respect. I'll try and pop in Fridays anyway.

JdV (not verified) — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 - 14:59

& hi to the Old Skool and the new beautiful ppl!

Ya'qub — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 - 20:46

[quote=wednesday]
it's only sometimes that they have soemthing nice, but in other cases, the quality lets you down. i must say, its a good place for kids clothes cos kids grow quicker and they wear out of their clothes very easy... so it's economically healthy?
[/quote]

Debatable...

Who makes the clothes, and how much do they get paid that means that a) we can buy them for really cheap and b) Asda, Tesco, Primark etc can still make a profit?

My sister said she went into Primark and saw a hand bag for sale that had two big, colourful labels on it: 1 said 'Only 4 pounds', the other said 'Hand stiched'.

How much of the '4 pounds' would the person who spent hours hand stiching the bag actually get?

How is it halal? especially because many of the countries that make clothes for those shops are Muslim-majority countries.

Ya'qub — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 - 20:56

[quote=wednesday] Primark's quality isn't up to the standards is it?[/quote]

But they do make exeedingly good socks (and all underwear).

LR (not verified) — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 - 22:43

How does one go about fining friends from a different country though a social neworking site??
Mainly looking to find someone in Australia.

Amal — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 - 13:52

[quote=Ya'qub][quote=wednesday]
it's only sometimes that they have soemthing nice, but in other cases, the quality lets you down. i must say, its a good place for kids clothes cos kids grow quicker and they wear out of their clothes very easy... so it's economically healthy?
[/quote]

Debatable...

Who makes the clothes, and how much do they get paid that means that a) we can buy them for really cheap and b) Asda, Tesco, Primark etc can still make a profit?

My sister said she went into Primark and saw a hand bag for sale that had two big, colourful labels on it: 1 said 'Only 4 pounds', the other said 'Hand stiched'.

How much of the '4 pounds' would the person who spent hours hand stiching the bag actually get?

How is it halal? especially because many of the countries that make clothes for those shops are Muslim-majority countries.[/quote]

Big shops like Primark share their grament factory floors with other retailers. It isnt uncommon to find workers stiching a garment from Top-Shop on one asile and Primark on another. The sad reality is that other high-street shops (i.e. Top-Shop etc) are looking to increase their profit margin by charging a higher price.

Unless we have free-trade clothing (Im sure this exists?) widely available, we cannot verify if all large retail stores pay their workers reasonable wages. Muslims have an obligation to ensure that pay is commensurate with the work done, but how can we ensure this? Sew our own clothes? :?

Is this the reason why Shukr clothing is so expensive? :p

Ya'qub — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 - 19:23

I know one about Ravens.

Edgar Allen Po (One of the lesser-known Tellytubbies, I think)

I only know it cos there was an epsiode based around it, before I get accused of swallowing 19th century literature again.

Funzo — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 - 19:27

[quote=wednesday][quote=Funzo]Yes[/quote]

Could you be kind enough to post it up so I may have a read?[/quote]
its already been done!

Anonymous123 (not verified) — Tue, 4 Nov 2008 - 13:39

no poll for us election 😛 ?

Seraphim — Wed, 5 Nov 2008 - 22:33

[quote=Noor]whats your definition of a hypocrite?[/quote]

Someone who says one thing, but does another.

Noor — Wed, 5 Nov 2008 - 22:48

ok, say if someone is delivering a study circle or talking about a particular topic but does not practice what they preach and the only reason they are saying what they are saying is so that the person can benefit and learn something. now should that person stop because they would be classed as a hypocrite or carry on knowing that you are their only source of guidence/knowledge?

Seraphim — Wed, 5 Nov 2008 - 22:55

[quote=Noor]ok, say if someone is delivering a study circle or talking about a particular topic but does not practice what they preach and the only reason they are saying what they are saying is so that the person can benefit and learn something. now should that person stop because they would be classed as a hypocrite or carry on knowing that you are their only source of guidence/knowledge? [/quote]

Just becoz you're a hypocrit doesnt mean you cant impart knowledge or guidance. Helping others helps us too.
The person leading the circle should continue to do so, bcoz they are in fact aiding helping someone. And in the same process maybe they can achieve redemption by steering other away from the traps they themselves fell into.

Sometimes trying to be good is just as good as actually being.

(And yes, i speak from experience.)

Seraphim — Wed, 5 Nov 2008 - 23:00

[quote=Noor]thats just being really two faced then.[/quote]

No ones perfect. Faith is an ongoing thing. You will occasionally trip and fall. But its how you pick yourself up that determines who you are.

Noor — Wed, 5 Nov 2008 - 23:08

by doing that you're giving everyone the impression that you're 'holy' or 'soooo pious masha'Allah' when you're the total opposite. thats just being a phoney.

Noor — Wed, 5 Nov 2008 - 23:18

what if you dont want to? not bothered anymore?

i guess that means you don't care if you're a hypocrite...

Noor — Wed, 5 Nov 2008 - 23:36

its very hard to find good company nowadays. everyone seems to stab you in the back.