jade is most like to be voted out....its a shame there aint gonna be any public present at the eviction, i wanted to see her get booed ....shilpa is favourite to win the whole show and after all that she deserves it, poor thing
"Allahuakbar" wrote:
Does anyone watch "Ditta Dil Jaani" on Venus TV at 11pm sky digital channel 807? He is a funny old man. Ppl ring him. Watch that instead!
yea watched him a few times...he gets mick taken out of him by callers and hate the way he laughs, if anyones down tune on to his show.
Submitted by yashmaki on 19 January, 2007 - 16:26 #93
do u think its warranted i really think danielle is the ringleader of all the racial comments and bullying, the other laugh with her and encourage it so theyre guilty yes.
Danielle said shilpa is pretty first thing she said when she met her such an insecure girl, she said it before another guy said it, coz it would obviously make her feel crappy coz she is meant to be a model. but she also called her a dog and jo laughed. i say jo stay in the kennels whyd u bob up to reveal how ugly ur character really is. Enjoy ur day job coz u will be returning to breed dogs and nothing else. I really thght jo wud be a nice person shame really.
Jade is brash, lacks intelligence, her vocab consists of four words which are expletives. shes just argumentative about everything with everyone i wouldn't say shes racist just a bully and a big mouth.
Danielle just confirms the stereotype that models are just bimbos. She's average looking and she just can't accept a rival in the house, especially one she views as attractive to the guys. she wanted to be the sole eye candy for the guys but that was taken away from her. Ah poor girl go play wid ur rattles
:roll:
ok ive been cruel enuff for one day loool gosh that felt good im such a horrid person :shock:
Submitted by Sajid Iqbal on 19 January, 2007 - 17:11 #94
"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:
1-JADE is a cow
2-danielle is a cow
3-jo is a sheep
ooh...some cud call that racism...its cos they're white innit!
[b][color=indigo]Fattys gone with a massive 82% of the public vote.[/color][/b]
Submitted by Seraphim on 19 January, 2007 - 22:06 #96
DING DONG THE WITCH IS GONE.
hahahahahaah
Jade was evicted with 82% of the votes!
I never liked her.... shes a cow... as for her little gang Jo & Danielle... they're sheep. And now that theyre crazy leader has been evicted... lamb chop anyone?
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Submitted by peacegirl on 19 January, 2007 - 23:16 #97
THE [u][b]BEAST [/b][/u]HAS LEFT THE BUILDING!!!! HURRAY!
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Submitted by Beast on 19 January, 2007 - 23:18 #98
"peacegirl" wrote:
THE [u][b]BEAST [/b][/u]HAS LEFT THE BUILDING!!!! HURRAY!
Hey?!?
Submitted by peacegirl on 19 January, 2007 - 23:20 #99
"ßeast" wrote:
"peacegirl" wrote:
THE [u][b]BEAST [/b][/u]HAS LEFT THE BUILDING!!!! HURRAY!
Hey?!?
WELL THERE ARE NICE BEASTS (YOU) AND THEN THERE ARE HORRIBLE BEASTS(JADE)!!
so do ppl think that most white English people are racist? if not to your face then at least behind your back?
?
Sometimes I feel they are…but I wonder if it’s my own paranoia that makes me think this..
90% of the people in my course are English….every member of staff in the school that I’m placed in at the moment are English…and whilst I often feel uncomfortable at the thought of working/teaching/interacting with people where I’ll be the only Asian girl…I have always been surprised at how friendly and nice English people can be.
Yes, they DO come out with stupid comments at times…but I think that, in many cases this is ignorance and not racism.
And BigBrother… this is the first time I’ve actually watched the highlights of the past few days. Its been shocking….Jade was desperate today (or was it yesterday?)...I think she was made aware that her actions have caused an outrage. Too bad, you cant ever take back what you've said...esp if its on National TV....Shilpa strength have character has made the whole world side with her.
Submitted by Seraphim on 20 January, 2007 - 12:45 #101
"TheRevivalEditor" wrote:
so do ppl think that most white English people are racist? if not to your face then at least behind your back?
do most white English ppl hate 'Pakis'? hate Muslims?
or are MOST English ppl good but a small minority racist?
are Muslims racists to English ppl?
are Asians more racist than whites?
I think a better question is whose more racist? English people or Asians.... I say its Asians... coz we hate other Asians too. Everything english people dont like about Asians.... Asians REALLY dont like about other Asian people.
In an intriguing twist, it emerged last night that Goody's mother Jackiey Budden, who called Shetty "the Indian" and refused to pronounce her name properly, is a practising Muslim who performed prayers while in the house. The prayers appear to have been cut from footage shown in the nightly TV updates.
Budden, who asked Shetty: "Do you live in a house or a shack ?" has observed Ramadan, the month of fasting, for nine years, according to Goody's agent and publicist John Noel Management.
Submitted by Beast on 20 January, 2007 - 13:08 #103
Note how they tie in negativity when telling us that Jade's mum is a Muslim.
"Guardian" wrote:
In an intriguing twist, it emerged last night that Goody's mother Jackiey Budden, who called Shetty "the Indian" and refused to pronounce her name properly, is a practising Muslim who performed prayers while in the house. The prayers appear to have been cut from footage shown in the nightly TV updates.
Budden, who asked Shetty: "Do you live in a house or a shack ?" has observed Ramadan, the month of fasting, for nine years, according to Goody's agent and publicist John Noel Management.
The report says that she 'refused to pronounce her name properly' and 'is a practising Muslim who performed prayers while in the house' in the same sentence.
The report also says that Jade's mum asked Shipla "Do you live in a house or a shack ?" in the same sentence that we are told that she 'has observed Ramadan, the month of fasting, for nine years.'
We are told about her "racism" and her Muslim religion as if the two are related.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Seraphim on 20 January, 2007 - 14:40 #105
"Admin" wrote:
When does this freakshow end?
When the fat lady sings?
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Submitted by Showkat on 20 January, 2007 - 15:11 #106
Salaams All
This is my comment on the Big Brother controversy, please forward widely especially to media and post on discussion groups as well as your personal mailing list. Jzk in advance for your help.
Big Brother: Shilpa Vs Jade, Dignity Vs Fame and money
Showkat Ali
The recent series of Big Brother a reality show on Chanel 4 has managed to create international controversy and of course greater viewing figures for an ailing show and brand which after many years is well on its way past its sell by date.
The current series started with the introduction of well known celebrities from the west, and to create interest and perhaps the odd conflict they chose the Bollywood actress Shilpa Shetty. True to form much interest and viewers was received from the Indian community and many other fans of Indian films, which includes many Muslims.
As usual being cramped into a house together is a recipe for some great entertainment and tantrums from all the house mates competing for the £ 100 000 prize, and trying hard not to be nominated for eviction by the great British public and therefore acting in a very fake and artificial manner.
Recently the show was performing badly in terms of viewing figures, and soon afterwards Big Brother which edits the tapes for the whole show and sometimes censors inappropriate content such as Jermaine Jackson praying to Allah in this series, decided to show scenes where Jade used language which can only be described as offensive towards Shilpa and told her to go back to India, called her “Shilpa popadom”, a reference to her Indian origin, there were other things she said but these are the salient and controversial points.
Since these scenes were shown the complaints from people in the UK flooded in, about 30 000+ , newspapers started discussing the alleged racism, radio phone ins as well and bullying help lines also witnessed a rise in calls, oh of course viewing figures doubled as well. The Indian Government also jumped in and coerced Gordon Brown who was on a visit to apologise and make a statement about condemning racism, quite funny their has been no official apology from the British Government about the illegal invasion of Iraq based on lies and sexed up dossiers. India as the new industrial superpower needs to be pleased and kept sweet it seems.
So it is correct to say that Big Brother and the alleged racism has become a topic of conversation at least in the UK and everyone has opinions on it, which for a society like the UK where half the people don’t even bother to vote for a Government of their choice is actually very good, it’s a pity they are discussing something shallow and irrelevant, but then again at least it’s a start.
Much of the discussion is focussed primarily on the way Shilpa has been treated by Jade and others, and the complaints address this point as well. Jade is behaving in a way which she considers to be normal for her, and said things which she only regrets because of fear of prosecution, loss of sponsorships and being labelled a racist. As we all know from experience even the most ardent racist says “I’m not a racist, I got lots of coloured mates, and I support Arsenal “.
I would like us all to imagine being in Shilpa’s position and Jade swearing at us, being aggressive and racist. What would we as Muslims do?
Stay and accept this treatment or leave voluntarily as two other people on the current series have already done?
What is more important Dignity or Money?
I am absolutely certain that Shilpa has been called much worse by the Indian media, who delight in digging up all manner of dirt from the family closets and displaying it on the front pages for public consumption, which cannot get enough gossip about their favourite stars, who seem to have replaced the many clay idols which the Hindus have as Gods and whose pictures they have on their walls.
Also a lot has been made about the dispute being a class one and on this I would like to add that in the Indian sub-continent respectable families do not allow their daughters to enter the film industry and respectable families do not want Bollywood actresses for their daughter in laws, not in real life anyway.
Maybe in India, being the worlds largest Secular democracy ,things maybe changing in terms of how these actresses are viewed, but in Muslim Pakistan and Bangladesh actresses are perceived as being little better than prostitutes; ok as a mistress but definably not as a wife. So she has been called much worse and accepts that it does indeed go with the territory, after all fame and money do not come cheap even if u do enter a cheap profession, where the better liar you are the more convincing you appear, and maybe her behaviour on this show is all part of an act.
Contrast how Jermain Jackson would have reacted if he was abused in this manner. Being a Muslim who has continued to observe his prayers regardless of what anybody thinks or says. We can assume that he would not have allowed himself to be insulted because Islam forbids a Muslim from accepting abuse or racism and the Muslims who read this article will agree with me.
Millions of Indians in the UK and India itself have phoned and even burnt effigies of Big Brother, to show the level of displeasure and anger they felt. Question is, does Shilpa being an Indian not feel the same and why hasn’t she left of her own accord, after all dignity and honour cannot have a price put on them.
Maybe I am approaching it from an Islamic perspective where honour and dignity is to be protected at all cost regardless of the financial loss.
These shows are full of deceit and deception and on many occasions the participants have been deceived and humiliated. So why can we not assume that all this dispute between Shilpa and Jade is in fact part of the plot and storyline and conveniently is acted when the viewing figures have taken a nose dive and the public is being taken for a ride?
Shilpa makes a serious allegation of being discriminated against by Jade then withdraws her comments at a later date to perhaps defuse the drama and look foolish in the process, just like the boy who cried Woolf.
In conclusion people are offended by Jades behaviour when we all know that this type of behaviour is very common in this society and in the workplace. Over the last few years I have lost count of the number of news articles, TV programs and comments from western politicians which has vilified and demonised Islam.
The only people who complained or protested in large numbers were Muslims, and even for protesting we were vilified. It seems we are expected to keep quite and just accept the abuse and slander meted out to us in the name of freedom of speech and expression, but if an Indian, Hindu, Bollywood actress is insulted the In-coming Prime Minister and other senior British politicians have to issue apologies and condemnations.
I suppose India being a Secular state which has no ambitions for ever threatening or spreading its way life is not seen as a threat, whereas the Islamic ideology is seen as a threat “whose adherents are working to establish the Caliphate from Morocco to Indonesia “
so they say shilpa will win.... out of sympathy???
jermain will win i think.... dont you think its good for Muslims.... he's never tried to promote islam down ppl's throat.... ppl love his personality, manners and behaviour....
i personally believe that there is an element of racism in ALL OF US...
whether directly or indirectly, consciously or unconsciously... at least 1% of us is racist.... whether its hating white, black, yellow, brown ppl...or whether its making negative comments about bengalis, indians, gujrati, chinese, africans etc...
or even words like GORA, KUCHI, BEATLE, PAKI, SHEEDY, NIGGER, ....i hear alot of Muslims use these words...but would never call themselves racists....
so do you think you are racist?
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Submitted by Noor on 25 January, 2007 - 23:46 #108
[b][color=indigo]Whats kuchi, beatle and sheedy?[/color][/b]
[b][color=indigo]Whats kuchi, beatle and sheedy?[/color][/b]
lol
beatle: bengali
kuchi: indian
sheedy: punjabi for black
well thats what i use:-)
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Submitted by *DUST* on 25 January, 2007 - 23:51 #110
"MuslimSister" wrote:
In an intriguing twist, it emerged last night that Goody's mother Jackiey Budden, who called Shetty "the Indian" and refused to pronounce her name properly, is a practising Muslim who performed prayers while in the house. The prayers appear to have been cut from footage shown in the nightly TV updates.
Budden, who asked Shetty: "Do you live in a house or a shack ?" has observed Ramadan, the month of fasting, for nine years, according to Goody's agent and publicist John Noel Management.
are they sure they haven't mixed her up with jermaine jackson? :roll:
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Submitted by Noor on 25 January, 2007 - 23:56 #111
[b][color=indigo]Ohhh you mean sheedey, i get it now! Alot of punjabi speaking people also use kaley and jamicay for black people and they also call bengalis machi (fish) and beans for somali people.
I use these terms but it's never in the racist sense. I only use these words when i'm talking about someone and i don't want them to here. However i do think the older generation are more racist then this generation of muslims.
Not many people like Shilpa now cz shes gone all pally with Jo and the other one but she'll get the sympathy vote.
Jermaine is excellant. He has shown Islam in a positive light and so many peoples perception of Islam has changed. [/color][/b]
Submitted by yashmaki on 26 January, 2007 - 11:21 #112
i thght jades mums was a lesbian. a lesbian muslim..what an oxymoron u sure this isnt just media spin? well if she is the media sure can say she terrorises ppl whereever she goes loooool
Why am i the last person to know abut these things? :roll:
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Submitted by Noor on 26 January, 2007 - 16:18 #114
[b][color=indigo]She isn't a Muslim, it's all hype. [/color][/b]
Submitted by peacegirl on 26 January, 2007 - 22:31 #115
The other day, my mum say to my 5 year old boy, 'Beta, what did that gora say?' My son just looked at her with a blank expression on his face!!! 'whats a gora?'
I quickly changed the subject!! I don't know why, but I don't want him refering to people in that way!!
so shilpa won- a set up to make channel 4 look good?
i wanted jemaine to win...
ah well...
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Submitted by Snoopz on 28 January, 2007 - 23:40 #117
i agree with ed.. set up and jermaine so shud hav won
shilpa was even gettin boos when davina called out her name.. fireworks drowned it all out!!
but waaahaaaay CHICKEN CURRY RULES standarrrd mann
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Submitted by Seraphim on 29 January, 2007 - 14:55 #118
"TheRevivalEditor" wrote:
so shilpa won- a set up to make channel 4 look good?
Im not gonna entertain your thoughts.... im gonna entertain my own thoughts :twisted: hmmmmm
shalipa's win is probably India's way of getting back at the Brits for their years of occupation.
Or every ethnic minority voted for her....(are we still a minority?)
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Submitted by yashmaki on 29 January, 2007 - 14:57 #119
i dont hate jermaine jackson in fact i quite admire certain things about him, he's a likeable guy. However just because he is a muslim it doesn't mean he's some sort of role model for the muslim youth. It angers me that the brothers seem to think he's done wonders in the house and has been well a "moderate muslim" portraying "real muslims" in the west. However if a muslim sister had gone into the house donning a headscarf and jilbab would she be bigged up in the same way these muslim brothers are commending how great Jermaine jackson is? I fear not without even watching the show they would call her indecent names and say she is immodest for even going into the house. So why is it acceptable for jermaine jackson to be there as a muslim? I don't think it is, anymore so than it would be for a woman.
Maybe it's escaped ur notice that jermaine jackson is in london to promote a musical of the jackson five. They're out looking for actors to play each of the jacksons. Need i say more about role models. He's a new muslim but we shouldn't extol him as a muslim role model just coz he is a "famous" convert. He is still learning about the faith im sure.
i dont hate jermaine jackson in fact i quite admire certain things about him, he's a likeable guy. However just because he is a muslim it doesn't mean he's some sort of role model for the muslim youth. It angers me that the brothers seem to think he's done wonders in the house and has been well a "moderate muslim" portraying "real muslims" in the west. However if a muslim sister had gone into the house donning a headscarf and jilbab would she be bigged up in the same way these muslim brothers are commending how great Jermaine jackson is? I fear not without even watching the show they would call her indecent names and say she is immodest for even going into the house. So why is it acceptable for jermaine jackson to be there as a muslim? I don't think it is, anymore so than it would be for a woman.
Maybe it's escaped ur notice that jermaine jackson is in london to promote a musical of the jackson five. They're out looking for actors to play each of the jacksons. Need i say more about role models. He's a new muslim but we shouldn't extol him as a muslim role model just coz he is a "famous" convert. He is still learning about the faith im sure.
jermain was cool...
yes i questioned him being there in the first place as Big Brother is not exactly a halal environment... same views would be for a sister.
but once he was there the nation was left to admire him...
yes his hugging, kissing of girls on cheeks.... was not islamic but everything was OK.
he never SOLD islam, his manners, behaviour, personality was enough....
he may not be a 'perfect role model' but i rather have youngsters look up to him than alot of our so called imams and politicians.
1-JADE is a cow
2-danielle is a cow
3-jo is a sheep
all of em are insecure and obvioulsy jealous of shilpa
and all three of them are so dum that they dont even care what the public is thinking of their bullying
they'l get the shock of their life when they leave the house and find out how many company's have dropped them
and that they are fast becming the most hated women in the world
reg racism-not sure really...jermaine did refer to jade once as "white trash" so why wasnt that picked up on?
jade is most like to be voted out....its a shame there aint gonna be any public present at the eviction, i wanted to see her get booed ....shilpa is favourite to win the whole show and after all that she deserves it, poor thing
yea watched him a few times...he gets mick taken out of him by callers and hate the way he laughs, if anyones down tune on to his show.
do u think its warranted i really think danielle is the ringleader of all the racial comments and bullying, the other laugh with her and encourage it so theyre guilty yes.
Danielle said shilpa is pretty first thing she said when she met her such an insecure girl, she said it before another guy said it, coz it would obviously make her feel crappy coz she is meant to be a model. but she also called her a dog and jo laughed. i say jo stay in the kennels whyd u bob up to reveal how ugly ur character really is. Enjoy ur day job coz u will be returning to breed dogs and nothing else. I really thght jo wud be a nice person shame really.
Jade is brash, lacks intelligence, her vocab consists of four words which are expletives. shes just argumentative about everything with everyone i wouldn't say shes racist just a bully and a big mouth.
Danielle just confirms the stereotype that models are just bimbos. She's average looking and she just can't accept a rival in the house, especially one she views as attractive to the guys. she wanted to be the sole eye candy for the guys but that was taken away from her. Ah poor girl go play wid ur rattles
:roll:
ok ive been cruel enuff for one day loool gosh that felt good im such a horrid person :shock:
ooh...some cud call that racism...its cos they're white innit!
[b][color=indigo]Fattys gone with a massive 82% of the public vote.[/color][/b]
DING DONG THE WITCH IS GONE.
hahahahahaah
Jade was evicted with 82% of the votes!
I never liked her.... shes a cow... as for her little gang Jo & Danielle... they're sheep. And now that theyre crazy leader has been evicted... lamb chop anyone?
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THE [u][b]BEAST [/b][/u]HAS LEFT THE BUILDING!!!! HURRAY!
live and let live!!!!!!!
Hey?!?
WELL THERE ARE NICE BEASTS (YOU) AND THEN THERE ARE HORRIBLE BEASTS(JADE)!!
live and let live!!!!!!!
Sometimes I feel they are…but I wonder if it’s my own paranoia that makes me think this..
90% of the people in my course are English….every member of staff in the school that I’m placed in at the moment are English…and whilst I often feel uncomfortable at the thought of working/teaching/interacting with people where I’ll be the only Asian girl…I have always been surprised at how friendly and nice English people can be.
Yes, they DO come out with stupid comments at times…but I think that, in many cases this is ignorance and not racism.
And BigBrother… this is the first time I’ve actually watched the highlights of the past few days. Its been shocking….Jade was desperate today (or was it yesterday?)...I think she was made aware that her actions have caused an outrage. Too bad, you cant ever take back what you've said...esp if its on National TV....Shilpa strength have character has made the whole world side with her.
I think a better question is whose more racist? English people or Asians.... I say its Asians... coz we hate other Asians too. Everything english people dont like about Asians.... Asians REALLY dont like about other Asian people.
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In an intriguing twist, it emerged last night that Goody's mother Jackiey Budden, who called Shetty "the Indian" and refused to pronounce her name properly, is a practising Muslim who performed prayers while in the house. The prayers appear to have been cut from footage shown in the nightly TV updates.
Budden, who asked Shetty: "Do you live in a house or a shack ?" has observed Ramadan, the month of fasting, for nine years, according to Goody's agent and publicist John Noel Management.
[url=http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,,1994828,00.html]GUARDIAN[/url]
?????
Note how they tie in negativity when telling us that Jade's mum is a Muslim.
The report says that she 'refused to pronounce her name properly' and 'is a practising Muslim who performed prayers while in the house' in the same sentence.
The report also says that Jade's mum asked Shipla "Do you live in a house or a shack ?" in the same sentence that we are told that she 'has observed Ramadan, the month of fasting, for nine years.'
We are told about her "racism" and her Muslim religion as if the two are related.
When does this freakshow end?
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
When the fat lady sings?
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Salaams All
This is my comment on the Big Brother controversy, please forward widely especially to media and post on discussion groups as well as your personal mailing list. Jzk in advance for your help.
Big Brother: Shilpa Vs Jade, Dignity Vs Fame and money
Showkat Ali
http://www.7cgen.com/index.php?showtopic=7295
The recent series of Big Brother a reality show on Chanel 4 has managed to create international controversy and of course greater viewing figures for an ailing show and brand which after many years is well on its way past its sell by date.
The current series started with the introduction of well known celebrities from the west, and to create interest and perhaps the odd conflict they chose the Bollywood actress Shilpa Shetty. True to form much interest and viewers was received from the Indian community and many other fans of Indian films, which includes many Muslims.
As usual being cramped into a house together is a recipe for some great entertainment and tantrums from all the house mates competing for the £ 100 000 prize, and trying hard not to be nominated for eviction by the great British public and therefore acting in a very fake and artificial manner.
Recently the show was performing badly in terms of viewing figures, and soon afterwards Big Brother which edits the tapes for the whole show and sometimes censors inappropriate content such as Jermaine Jackson praying to Allah in this series, decided to show scenes where Jade used language which can only be described as offensive towards Shilpa and told her to go back to India, called her “Shilpa popadom”, a reference to her Indian origin, there were other things she said but these are the salient and controversial points.
Since these scenes were shown the complaints from people in the UK flooded in, about 30 000+ , newspapers started discussing the alleged racism, radio phone ins as well and bullying help lines also witnessed a rise in calls, oh of course viewing figures doubled as well. The Indian Government also jumped in and coerced Gordon Brown who was on a visit to apologise and make a statement about condemning racism, quite funny their has been no official apology from the British Government about the illegal invasion of Iraq based on lies and sexed up dossiers. India as the new industrial superpower needs to be pleased and kept sweet it seems.
So it is correct to say that Big Brother and the alleged racism has become a topic of conversation at least in the UK and everyone has opinions on it, which for a society like the UK where half the people don’t even bother to vote for a Government of their choice is actually very good, it’s a pity they are discussing something shallow and irrelevant, but then again at least it’s a start.
Much of the discussion is focussed primarily on the way Shilpa has been treated by Jade and others, and the complaints address this point as well. Jade is behaving in a way which she considers to be normal for her, and said things which she only regrets because of fear of prosecution, loss of sponsorships and being labelled a racist. As we all know from experience even the most ardent racist says “I’m not a racist, I got lots of coloured mates, and I support Arsenal “.
I would like us all to imagine being in Shilpa’s position and Jade swearing at us, being aggressive and racist. What would we as Muslims do?
Stay and accept this treatment or leave voluntarily as two other people on the current series have already done?
What is more important Dignity or Money?
I am absolutely certain that Shilpa has been called much worse by the Indian media, who delight in digging up all manner of dirt from the family closets and displaying it on the front pages for public consumption, which cannot get enough gossip about their favourite stars, who seem to have replaced the many clay idols which the Hindus have as Gods and whose pictures they have on their walls.
Also a lot has been made about the dispute being a class one and on this I would like to add that in the Indian sub-continent respectable families do not allow their daughters to enter the film industry and respectable families do not want Bollywood actresses for their daughter in laws, not in real life anyway.
Maybe in India, being the worlds largest Secular democracy ,things maybe changing in terms of how these actresses are viewed, but in Muslim Pakistan and Bangladesh actresses are perceived as being little better than prostitutes; ok as a mistress but definably not as a wife. So she has been called much worse and accepts that it does indeed go with the territory, after all fame and money do not come cheap even if u do enter a cheap profession, where the better liar you are the more convincing you appear, and maybe her behaviour on this show is all part of an act.
Contrast how Jermain Jackson would have reacted if he was abused in this manner. Being a Muslim who has continued to observe his prayers regardless of what anybody thinks or says. We can assume that he would not have allowed himself to be insulted because Islam forbids a Muslim from accepting abuse or racism and the Muslims who read this article will agree with me.
Millions of Indians in the UK and India itself have phoned and even burnt effigies of Big Brother, to show the level of displeasure and anger they felt. Question is, does Shilpa being an Indian not feel the same and why hasn’t she left of her own accord, after all dignity and honour cannot have a price put on them.
Maybe I am approaching it from an Islamic perspective where honour and dignity is to be protected at all cost regardless of the financial loss.
These shows are full of deceit and deception and on many occasions the participants have been deceived and humiliated. So why can we not assume that all this dispute between Shilpa and Jade is in fact part of the plot and storyline and conveniently is acted when the viewing figures have taken a nose dive and the public is being taken for a ride?
Shilpa makes a serious allegation of being discriminated against by Jade then withdraws her comments at a later date to perhaps defuse the drama and look foolish in the process, just like the boy who cried Woolf.
In conclusion people are offended by Jades behaviour when we all know that this type of behaviour is very common in this society and in the workplace. Over the last few years I have lost count of the number of news articles, TV programs and comments from western politicians which has vilified and demonised Islam.
The only people who complained or protested in large numbers were Muslims, and even for protesting we were vilified. It seems we are expected to keep quite and just accept the abuse and slander meted out to us in the name of freedom of speech and expression, but if an Indian, Hindu, Bollywood actress is insulted the In-coming Prime Minister and other senior British politicians have to issue apologies and condemnations.
I suppose India being a Secular state which has no ambitions for ever threatening or spreading its way life is not seen as a threat, whereas the Islamic ideology is seen as a threat “whose adherents are working to establish the Caliphate from Morocco to Indonesia “
George Bush Jnr and later quoted by Tony Blair
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so they say shilpa will win.... out of sympathy???
jermain will win i think.... dont you think its good for Muslims.... he's never tried to promote islam down ppl's throat.... ppl love his personality, manners and behaviour....
i personally believe that there is an element of racism in ALL OF US...
whether directly or indirectly, consciously or unconsciously... at least 1% of us is racist.... whether its hating white, black, yellow, brown ppl...or whether its making negative comments about bengalis, indians, gujrati, chinese, africans etc...
or even words like GORA, KUCHI, BEATLE, PAKI, SHEEDY, NIGGER, ....i hear alot of Muslims use these words...but would never call themselves racists....
so do you think you are racist?
[b][color=indigo]Whats kuchi, beatle and sheedy?[/color][/b]
lol
beatle: bengali
kuchi: indian
sheedy: punjabi for black
well thats what i use:-)
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[b][color=indigo]Ohhh you mean sheedey, i get it now! Alot of punjabi speaking people also use kaley and jamicay for black people and they also call bengalis machi (fish) and beans for somali people.
I use these terms but it's never in the racist sense. I only use these words when i'm talking about someone and i don't want them to here. However i do think the older generation are more racist then this generation of muslims.
Not many people like Shilpa now cz shes gone all pally with Jo and the other one but she'll get the sympathy vote.
Jermaine is excellant. He has shown Islam in a positive light and so many peoples perception of Islam has changed. [/color][/b]
i thght jades mums was a lesbian. a lesbian muslim..what an oxymoron u sure this isnt just media spin? well if she is the media sure can say she terrorises ppl whereever she goes loooool
WHAT!!!!! :shock:
Why am i the last person to know abut these things? :roll:![Sad](https://www.therevival.co.uk/sites/all/modules/smiley/packs/kolobok/sad.gif)
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Your damn right!
[b][color=indigo]She isn't a Muslim, it's all hype. [/color][/b]
The other day, my mum say to my 5 year old boy, 'Beta, what did that gora say?' My son just looked at her with a blank expression on his face!!! 'whats a gora?'
I quickly changed the subject!! I don't know why, but I don't want him refering to people in that way!!
live and let live!!!!!!!
so shilpa won- a set up to make channel 4 look good?
i wanted jemaine to win...
ah well...
i agree with ed.. set up and jermaine so shud hav won
shilpa was even gettin boos when davina called out her name.. fireworks drowned it all out!!
but waaahaaaay CHICKEN CURRY RULES
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Im not gonna entertain your thoughts.... im gonna entertain my own thoughts :twisted: hmmmmm
shalipa's win is probably India's way of getting back at the Brits for their years of occupation.
Or every ethnic minority voted for her....(are we still a minority?)
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i dont hate jermaine jackson in fact i quite admire certain things about him, he's a likeable guy. However just because he is a muslim it doesn't mean he's some sort of role model for the muslim youth. It angers me that the brothers seem to think he's done wonders in the house and has been well a "moderate muslim" portraying "real muslims" in the west. However if a muslim sister had gone into the house donning a headscarf and jilbab would she be bigged up in the same way these muslim brothers are commending how great Jermaine jackson is? I fear not without even watching the show they would call her indecent names and say she is immodest for even going into the house. So why is it acceptable for jermaine jackson to be there as a muslim? I don't think it is, anymore so than it would be for a woman.
Maybe it's escaped ur notice that jermaine jackson is in london to promote a musical of the jackson five. They're out looking for actors to play each of the jacksons. Need i say more about role models. He's a new muslim but we shouldn't extol him as a muslim role model just coz he is a "famous" convert. He is still learning about the faith im sure.
jermain was cool...
yes i questioned him being there in the first place as Big Brother is not exactly a halal environment... same views would be for a sister.
but once he was there the nation was left to admire him...
yes his hugging, kissing of girls on cheeks.... was not islamic but everything was OK.
he never SOLD islam, his manners, behaviour, personality was enough....
he may not be a 'perfect role model' but i rather have youngsters look up to him than alot of our so called imams and politicians.
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