Undercover Mosques

MuslimSister —

An undercover investigation has revealed disturbing evidence of Islamic extremism at a number of Britain's leading mosques and Muslim institutions, including an organisation praised by the Prime Minister.

Secret video footage reveals Muslim preachers exhorting followers to prepare for jihad, to hit girls for not wearing the hijab, and to create a 'state within a state'. Many of the preachers are linked to the Wahhabi strain of Islam practised in Saudi Arabia, which funds a number of Britain's leading Islamic institutions.

At the Sparkbrook mosque, run by UK Islamic Mission (UKIM), an organisation that maintains 45 mosques in Britain and which Tony Blair has said 'is extremely valued by the government for its multi-faith and multicultural activities', a preacher is captured on film praising the Taliban. In response to the news that a British Muslim solider was killed fighting the Taliban, the speaker declares: 'The hero of Islam is the one who separated his head from his shoulders.'

Another speaker says Muslims cannot accept the rule of non-Muslims. 'You cannot accept the rule of the kaffir [non-Muslim],' a preacher, Dr Ijaz Mian, tells a meeting held within the mosque. 'We have to rule ourselves and we have to rule the others.'

Inside the Green Lane mosque in Birmingham, a preacher is recorded saying: 'Allah has created the woman deficient.' A satellite broadcast from the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Sheikh Abdul Aziz al-Sheikh, beamed into the Green Lane mosque suggests that Muslim children should be hit if they don't pray: 'When he is seven, tell him to go and pray, and start hitting them when they are 10.' Another preacher is heard saying that if a girl 'doesn't wear hijab, we hit her'.

In a statement to Channel 4, Lord Ahmed, the convener of the government's Preventing Extremism taskforce, said he was worried about the programme's consequences: 'While I appreciate that exaggerated opinions make good TV, they do not make for good community relations.'

A spokesman for Green Lane mosque said Islam does not denigrate women and that the instruction to hit a child was merely a smack. He accused C4 of intensifying the 'witch-hunt' against Muslims.

'Undercover Mosques', Dispatches, goes out at 8pm on Monday, 15 January

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You — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 - 23:30

Can we stick to one topic at a time please.

This one is about the programme 'undercover mosques.'

Duimping everything into one topic is a recipe for unpleasantness.

And being takfiri is not counted by me as helpful.

You — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 - 23:39

of course. :twisted:

But seriously when have I EVER allowed or condoned takfiri behaviour towards tablighi Jama'ah?

Before the Mod disappeared, I even had a Moderator linked to it.

But why do you always try to justify your behaviour by what others do or do not do?

Everyone should have theyir own standreds and to hell with that others do.

It is childish saying 'But miss he did it first!'.

If I kill someone for no reason will you follow me? If I allow someone to kill themselves, would yopu kill yourself?

Stand up for your self man! get a spine and be accountable for your actions instead of hiding behind the flaws in others.

EDIT there were many topics not discussed in your absence. People did not fel the need to burn others. On your first day back you are already ebing told not to do so. This cannot be blamed on others.

Noor — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 - 23:46

[b][color=indigo]Admin, you should get a new keyboard. [/color][/b]

Noor — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 - 23:48

[b][color=indigo]And the same goes to you :roll: [/color][/b]

You — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 - 23:52

once again, stop hiding behing others.

Who is Leiah? What did he/she say? When was it? who to? why? where?

I do not remember the username nor any comment I overlooked.

My shortcomings are mine. I admit that I do not read every post, and those that do just bore me within a few words.

I am also a human meaning that I can at times be subjective instead of objective.

But all you do is try to find faults in otehrs. It is a tiring attitude, and you have only been back for a few hours!

So, back to topic, what did you make of the program? I did nopt watch it, so i have no opinion on it. It may have been true, or it may not.

You — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 - 23:53

[quote="KhassanBaiev"]What subjects did members not discussed in my time in exile?[/quote]

Just go back and view the last few pages. See what topics you would have discussed, but are missing.

Noor — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 - 23:56

[quote="KhassanBaiev"][quote="Noor...*"][b][color=indigo]And the same goes to you :roll: [/color][/b][/quote]

I did miss you considerly, no harsh feelings :cry:[/quote]

[color=indigo][b]Get lost.[/b][/color]

You — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 - 00:03

[quote="Noor...*"][color=indigo][b]He means Latifah.[/b][/color][/quote]

oh. Where is her post?

And what did you make of the programme? Did you watch it?

Same goes to KhassanBaiev. What did you make of it?

(has it been aired yet?)

Noor — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 - 00:05

[color=indigo][b]Go to page 1 Admin :roll:

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You — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 - 00:12

Where on page 1?

I can see post order as:
MuslimSister
Beast
MuslimSister
Beast
MuslimSister
Beast
MuslimSister
mmm
Mr Honey's day out
Yashmaki
Ed
Snoopz
LilSis
Dawud
Seraphim
Ed
Ed
Cricketgal
Beast
Kahn
Noor
Khan
Ed
Mr Honeys Day out
LilSis
KhassanBaiev
yashmaki
cricketgal
cricketgal

(and yes, I have not read any posts in this topic. Bite me.)

Noor — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 - 00:15

[b][color=indigo]He’s referring to the posts made by Latifah in the PAST. Get with it Admin :roll: and I was referring to the second part of your question.

Ps: I think he meant Laila not Latifah, my mistake.. or maybe none of them :? Well theres only 2 people whos names begin with a L [/color][/b]

You — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 - 01:00

Stick to the topic dude. (and yes, I did moderate Omrow's posts heavily. Pity you look at other flaws instead of your own.)

Once again, what did you make of the show?

You — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 - 01:18

Is she not still around?

This is my first day of real posting in about a month or so. (and I will probably not be around much for the next few days/weeks either.)

I do not come around here much any longer.

Noor — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 - 01:22

[b][color=indigo]Cause arguments and fights more like :roll: [/color][/b]