Why doesn't the umma do anything about darfur? Musliims talk about palestine how the israelis are killing them but what about the janjaweed in africa? They may be arabs and they may be muslims but they are still barbarians.
http://www.sudantribune.com/article.php3?id_article=7752
Eugene, USA, Jan 30, 2005 (Register-Guard) - The world rightly focused last week on the 60th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz, with leaders from the United States and other nations solemnly intoning the Holocaust mantra: "Never again." Yet even as ceremonies were conducted at the death camp in Poland, the government in distant Sudan continued its genocide against villagers in the region of Darfur in the shameful absence of decisive international intervention.
Despite Sudan’s recent agreement to a cease-fire, an air force bombardment on Wednesday killed or wounded almost 100 villagers and sent thousands fleeing to distant refugee camps. More than 70,000 have died, and the death toll could exceed a million if the world fails to act.
The United Nations Security Council has been as irresponsible in failing to stop the killing in Sudan as it was more than a decade ago in Rwanda. Its response has consisted of appointing commissions to determine whether the massacres meet the legal definition of genocide and approving limp resolutions threatening to "consider action" if Khartoum fails to disarm Arab militias responsible for much of the killing.
Meanwhile, Darfur is tumbling into chaos. Hundreds of thousands of displaced refugees are cut off from humanitarian assistance, and the militias, with government assistance, continue to raid the few villages that have yet to be destroyed.
If world leaders are serious when they utter the words "Never again," they must act now by deploying thousands of additional African peacekeepers and authorizing them to take military action. They must impose arms and oil embargoes, as well as sanctions targeting Sudanese leaders and businesses. Finally, they must make certain Sudanese leaders and others face justice for their crimes in an international tribunal.
Six decades have passed since allied soldiers liberated Auschwitz, yet the world has failed time and again to stop genocides. In the 1970s, 1.5 million Cambodians perished at the hands of the Khmer Rouge. In 1994, up to a million Tutsis and moderate Hutus were killed in Rwanda as diplomats dithered, as they are dithering now, over the definition of genocide.
History will record whether the world allows the genocide in Sudan to continue - or finally fulfills the promise of "Never again."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-wells/where-and-when-will-it-en_b_339...
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/19/ap/world/mainD8LGE5K02.shtml
Not forgetting, but I cannot think of any way to stop it.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
What do you expect the Ummah to do?
I can't see much protesting about anything on here.
The african union and the UN are currently working on a proposal to send in troops.
and international law is as such you cannot send in troops unless requested/accepted by the country.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
What?
We are all English. In England the predominantly pro-Israeli media highlights the Arab-Israeli conflict more then any other conflict in the Muslim world (well after the massacre of Iraq that is.) Therefore we can only judge on what we know.
what makes you think we value Arabs and Muslims above the rest of the human race? Muhammad (saaw) in his last sermon said that an Arab is not better then a non-Arab and a non-Arab is not better then an Arab.
The janjaweed has been very much in the media spotlight. True genocides have been taking place in Sudan, Somalia and elsewhere in Africa. True, your concern for the Palestinians is not sudden and personal, it is widespread, but stmark seems to be asking why, on these forums for instance, there is so little concern expressed about Africa by comparison with recurrant Israeli-Arab themes.
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I have not seen much of it to be frank
Because the Zionists are the modern version of the Nazis, we need to stop them before they stop us.
The Nazis committed a genocide of millions of Jews, Poles, Gypsies, gays and other minorities and dissidents. The Israelis have been at war for decades and there has not been loss of life on such a giant scale, nor is it Israel's intention to commit genocide. You will note that when Palestinians formed a shield around an Israeli terrorist target the Israelis aborted their mission. Your distortion is particularly gross and only serves to stir up hatred. By comparison, Sudan is an example of massive genocide.
And clearly you are not really bothered. Your priority is to villify Israel. Brainwash notwithstanding I do not understand these priorities.
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any idea how many innocent people have been massacred since the creation of the Zionist state?
besides the killings are not the only parallels.
Come off it!
Of course I care, but like admin said we can do nothing to stop it, our sympathy and our prayers is all we can offer.
It's been without a central government and was ruled by warlords since 1991 but in july of this year an islamic regime took over. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/27/world/main1843988.shtml
Somalia's virtually powerless government was unraveling as a fifth of its Cabinet resigned in disgust and the administration's Islamic rivals took over the presidential palace in the capital of Mogadishu. Eighteen key ministers in the 102-member Cabinet said Thursday that their government has failed to bring peace to this chaotic African nation as it emerges from 15 years of anarchy. The leadership has no power outside its base in Baidoa, 155 miles from the capital.
I guess you can't be expected to solve 15 years of chaos in just a few months. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4731456.stm
http://allafrica.com/stories/200611210031.html
Quit weaseling. The "numbers killed" are substantially lower by percentage or any other measure, it is blatantly not a genocide, if you are an intelligent person you will be able to explain yourself better than "besides the killings are not the only parallels", you have used a phrase that does not relate to how many people have been killed [i]by the Israelis[/i] let alone that they have no hatred of any given race. The number killed is substantially lower than 20,000. That is bleak enough without inaccurate vile comparisons.
Your way of responding to this is to villify Israel and enter into conversations on the matter, and I don't know if that's the size of it, but regarding the half a million in Darfur you "can do nothing" and have mere "sympathy and prayers", having been aggressively asked for an opinion.
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Is Christianity not for everybody? :roll:
no one believes that Muslims are superior, there are nationalistic Muslims, like nationalistic Jews, Christians, Hindu’s, Sikhs etc.
And are you blind or something Mark? You read what I said about the prophet Muhammad’s last sermon.
100 thats 20,000 civilians killed is according to Zionists.
I don't debate with brainwashed Zionists anymore, its like talking to a brick wall.
the other day i was watching the news about civilians surrounding the house Israel was about to destroy, the Zionist pigs on CNN said that 1000's of Palestinians formed a human shield around the house, the Zionist pigs in the BBC News 24 said 100's formed a human shield. When I saw a video clip of what was happening I couldn't see more then 30. Conflicting News everywhere you go, you believe what you like bro.
Perhaps you can offer us a solution so we can act on it, I would be really grateful if you could.
Maybe it will help if you find a few and start calling them "jihadi pigs" or somesuch as per your vocabulary for resolving other conflicts.
I can also find CNN and the BBC offensive, it doesn't lead me to villify them. You are very good at promoting a sense of victimhood and inculcating hatred and very short on substance.
The numbers killed were based on a Swiss report I had quickly Googled and it appeared nonpartisan. Maybe the numbers are higher, but your dismissal of my reply is pretty banal. See how [url=http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART1/483/521.html]this[/url] strikes you. Maybe those Zionist pigs are just making it all up.
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call them "jihadi pigs"
they are pigs
I wouldn't [i]personally[/i] use the word "Jihadi", its the most abused word that exists today.
and anyway I see/go through enough zionist sources mate
I told you I don't debate with zionists anymore
besides I prefer face to face discussions, not over the net to some stranger.
The bit in red perfectly describes Jewish/zionist media.
As for the record I don't hate Israelis/Jews, i know i sound like i do.
Well then, sound like you don't. I'm done with this stupid conversation, you have been an offensive weasel.
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sorry
If we agree that humility and a desire for peace is needed by both Israelis and Palestinians and that demonising and insulting the other even during conflict will not bring peace, I can forgive you.
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ok
Thank you habib.
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its a gradual process
the land was not taken all in one go was it? :roll:
and America is indifferent to Israels viciousness, they don't [i]do[/i] anything to stop it, they just [i]tell[/i] them to stop it, words in such situations are powerless, and America & Israel know that.
Besides I have seen many maps that don't even mention Palestine, Israel and surrounding countries are mentioned but Palestine is nowhere to be seen, someone told me those maps were probably created by Zionists. :mrgreen:
No comment. Ok, just a small one. What Palestine?
Now question I decided not to ask when this topic was first started.
Oops, forgotten the question!
Anyway semi-back on topic I thiink the security council is a copout and should be abolished.
Sudan is in a very bas situation atm. Something needs to be done. Darfur is not tumbling into chaos. It has been in chaos for over a year now.
Somalia has been ungoverned for a decade or more. The international community has only taken issue that now a large part of it is under the control of one group which they disagree with. Where was everyone when there was total chaos?
Oh, you can never say never. chaos and genocide will always happen. there will always be someone willing to kill another for something.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.