Death row Briton leaves Pakistan - committing crimes abroad

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[quote][size=18]Death row Briton leaves Pakistan[/size]

A British man who spent 18 years in a Pakistani jail has been freed and has flown out of the country, a day after his death sentence was lifted.

Mirza Tahir Hussain, 36, of Leeds, West Yorkshire, is expected to arrive at Heathrow Airport later on Friday.

He was convicted in 1989 of murdering a taxi driver, but always said the killing was in self-defence.

His brother Amjad said Hussain had suffered "beyond belief" and added: "We are delighted and thrilled".

He said Hussain would need help to adjust to life outside prison.

Asked by reporters how his mother had reacted to the news of the release, he said: "She can't wait to hold her son in her arms."

Mr Hussain said President Pervez Musharraf, who commuted the death sentence on Thursday to life imprisonment, "had shown himself to be an enlightened man who has rectified this miscarriage of justice".

News of his release broke on Friday morning when Pakistan's Interior Minister Aftab Ahmed Khan Sherpao told reporters: "Mirza Tahir Hussain... is a free person now and he can go wherever he wants to go."

Later, a British High Commission spokesman was reported as saying Hussain was on his way home.

Before Hussain was freed, there were pleas for clemency from the Prince of Wales, Prime Minister Tony Blair, European politicians and human rights groups.

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The interior ministry in Pakistan said he had been released into the care of the British High Commission in Islamabad.

Greg Mulholland, the Hussain family's MP in Leeds, said: "Yesterday was wonderful when his sentence was commuted, but today we have the news everyone was really hoping for."

Hussain was originally acquitted of the murder by Pakistan's High Court, but an Islamic court sentenced him to death in 1998.

The sentence was upheld by the Supreme Court in 2003, and a review petition was rejected a year later.

But the government put off his execution several times, most recently until the end of this year.

Authorities had hoped a blood-money settlement, permitted under Islamic law, could be reached with the dead man's family.

But the relatives refused to negotiate, saying to do so would be dishonourable.

The family of the victim said on Thursday they were furious the sentence had been commuted and planned to appeal against the decision.

[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/6157012.stm]BBC News[/url][/quote]

I find this pretty sickening. If someone has been convicted of murder in another country, it's the county's laws that should be used.

Now I am not saying the guy should have been killed. But at the same time releasing a convicted murderer into britain just becasue his offence was abroad does not make it right.

His sentence should have either been reduced to life or he should have a retrial. Not just released.

Britons have a history of committing murder abroad, then getting away with it. There were those nurses in saudi a few years ago. Then there was a nanny in America. in each case convicted murdereres got off virtually scott free.

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peacegirl — Fri, 17 Nov 2006 - 23:31

[quote="Noor...*"][color=indigo][b]Just been watching BBC News and they're making him sound as if he's some kindof hero or sumfin!
Hello he killed someone![/b][/color][/quote]

the guy was sexually assulted!! I don't blame him for what he did. it was self defence.........and Anyone would kill in self defence. ONLY in self defence. what should he have done?? let that taxi driver take advantage?? and be killed?

Noor — Fri, 17 Nov 2006 - 23:47

[color=indigo][b]If it was self-defence then why the hell did they lock him up in the first place and almost senstance him to death?!
Anyway, i dont understand why the BBC are making a big hoo haa about it all. It aint as if he saved a life or sumthing, he may well have been defending himself BIG DEAL.. things like this happen all the time. Anyhow if briton wants to let convicted murderers in.. then they better be ready for the next time they strike![/b][/color]

peacegirl — Fri, 17 Nov 2006 - 23:58

[quote="Noor...*"][color=indigo][b]If it was self-defence then why the hell did they lock him up in the first place and almost senstance him to death?!
Anyway, i dont understand why the BBC are making a big hoo haa about it all. It aint as if he saved a life or sumthing, he may well have been defending himself BIG DEAL.. things like this happen all the time. Anyhow if briton wants to let convicted murderers in.. then they better be ready for the next time they strike![/b][/color][/quote]

why was he locked up in the first place??? erm we're talking about pakistan here! how many things do they do right over there??
if the media didn't make a 'big hoo ha' then people would say 'oh it's coz he's coloured'!! I rekon it's a good thing that it has got all this media coverage.

if he had SAVED a life then he wouldn't be in prison in the first place!! 😂

You — Sat, 18 Nov 2006 - 00:06

That is why there are trials.

He claimed self defence. He lost. He apealed. He lost.

That is the process of law. Not getting the embassy to ring the prsident of a country to get a pardon.

At most he should get a retrial.

Noor — Sat, 18 Nov 2006 - 00:09

[quote="peace4all"]
why was he locked up in the first place??? erm we're talking about pakistan here! how many things do they do right over there??
if the media didn't make a 'big hoo ha' then people would say 'oh it's coz he's coloured'!! I rekon it's a good thing that it has got all this media coverage.

if he had SAVED a life then he wouldn't be in prison in the first place!! :lol:[/quote]

[color=indigo][b]Usually cases like this go uncovered in Pakland, if sum1 pays the police a decent enough price they tend to let them of the hook. If the media didn't make a big hoo haa outoff it then no1 would no in the first place! and why would they says it's because he's "coloured", whats that got to do with anything?! All im saying there wasnt any real need for his life and crime to be exposed on national tele.. Whats the point?! [/b][/color]

peacegirl — Sat, 18 Nov 2006 - 00:12

[quote="Admin"]That is why there are trials.

He claimed self defence. He lost. He apealed. He lost.

That is the process of law. Not getting the embassy to ring the prsident of a country to get a pardon.

At most he should get a retrial.[/quote]

sorry admin.........but in pakistan nothing is done right. it was self defence. he was only 18. there is so much corruption over there. the rich get away with alot. there are honour killings, and people get away with those murders. all coz the family know people in high places. so what if this guy got helped out. he didn't want to be assulted.

peacegirl — Sat, 18 Nov 2006 - 00:16

[quote="Noor...*"][quote="peace4all"]
why was he locked up in the first place??? erm we're talking about pakistan here! how many things do they do right over there??
if the media didn't make a 'big hoo ha' then people would say 'oh it's coz he's coloured'!! I rekon it's a good thing that it has got all this media coverage.

if he had SAVED a life then he wouldn't be in prison in the first place!! :lol:[/quote]

[color=indigo][b]Usually cases like this go uncovered in Pakland, if sum1 pays the police a decent enough price they tend to let them of the hook. If the media didn't make a big hoo haa outoff it then no1 would no in the first place! and why would they says it's because he's "coloured", whats that got to do with anything?! All im saying there wasnt any real need for his life and crime to be exposed on national tele.. Whats the point?! [/b][/color][/quote]

the coloured thing does come up a lot in the asian community. if this case was not on the news, then the asians would say it's coz of the guys colour. they do.

You — Sat, 18 Nov 2006 - 00:20

and you are certain that he is innocent?

He claimed he was attacked. and when things get much media attention that they go all the way to the supreme court, things ARE done correctly.

Afterall if things were done wrong, there would have been political pressure for an acquittal. He was released, but still guilty in the eyes of the courts for murder.

It may have been self defence, or it may not have. but that is why there is due process. to find out such things.

and if alleging bribery for the conviction, who has more money? the family of some poor cabbie who has probably never left the country, or a visitor from abroad, with family in a richer country?

It still should at max be a retrial. not getting off scott free.

and I don't get the 'coloured' comments. both were 'Pakistani'.

peacegirl — Sat, 18 Nov 2006 - 00:28

[quote="Admin"]and you are certain that he is innocent?

He claimed he was attacked. and when things get much media attention that they go all the way to the supreme court, things ARE done correctly.

Afterall if things were done wrong, there would have been political pressure for an acquittal. He was released, but still guilty in the eyes of the courts for murder.

It may have been self defence, or it may not have. but that is why there is due process. to find out such things.

and if alleging bribery for the conviction, who has more money? the family of some poor cabbie who has probably never left the country, or a visitor from abroad, with family in a richer country?

It still should at max be a retrial. not getting off scott free.

and I don't get the 'coloured' comments. both were 'Pakistani'.[/quote]

how do you know he intended to kill a 'poor cabbie that never left the country?'
a girl from our town got taken to pakistan, and murdered coz she refused to marry where her parents wanted her to. they are here jolly as ever. they got away scott free.
another guy just got married for the second time after killing his first wife in pakistan. he got away scott free.

I've been over there........i went to settle down. but after I saw the way that country works. :roll: :roll: :roll:

The guys been through enough.

Noor — Sat, 18 Nov 2006 - 00:34

[color=indigo][b]Sis but HOW do you no he was just defending himself? A life was taken and theres nowt to be jolly and happy about regardless of how long you get sentanced down for.
You say he's been through enough, but how do you no that? What about the man who got killed and his family? His kids? For all we no that guy good have been living like royalty in that prision. If one has money in Pakland they have eveything.[/b][/color]

peacegirl — Sat, 18 Nov 2006 - 00:39

[quote="Bliss"]peaceforalll was u opting to live in pakland and grow up their with ur family
good job u moved[/quote]

no!!! I was gonna bring my kids up there. Coz I thought it would be better if they grew up in an islamic soceity! yeh right! I was soooooooooo wrong.

They have more islam here than in pakistan. The closest they got to learnig about this beutiful religion was the azaan. and in england I have that radio thingy set up!! so we're not missing out in anything!!

And whilst there I met a family who were packing up to leave after a year of living the 'islamic' life in pakistan..............
sorry i know i'm going off topic!

peacegirl — Sat, 18 Nov 2006 - 00:47

[quote="Admin"]you see innocence and guilt is for courts to decide, not politicians.

and they copurts decided he was guilty. and then again guilty. and again and again.

just releasing him after that is just asking for murder.[/quote]

if the court says he was guilty again and again........why aren't the police out there looking for ALL the murderers in pakistan? the fathers who kill their own daughters? why is it so easy for them to get away?

peacegirl — Sat, 18 Nov 2006 - 00:49

[quote="Noor...*"][color=indigo][b]eh??? :? :? :?

Your name was Saima before peace4all rightt? Im sure it was![/b][/color][/quote]

don't keep saying that name!! i decided that i shouldn't have chosen my proper name!!! know what I mean? and thats why I am now PEACEGIRL!!

peacegirl — Sat, 18 Nov 2006 - 00:51

[quote="Noor...*"][color=indigo][b]Isnt it a bit obvious?! Everyone gets away with everything there, hardly any cases are reported.[/b][/color][/quote]

and that is such a shame. Thats why I don't give much importance to this case?? Why just treat one case seriously?? THey need to start catching criminals i that country.

peacegirl — Sat, 18 Nov 2006 - 00:57

[quote="Bliss"][quote="peacegirl"] the fathers who kill their own daughters? why is it so easy for them to get away?[/quote]

father killing their own daughters i thougth it had decreased they still doing it[/quote]

it still happening! they are getting away with it!

girls are being raped by their own brothers in that country. and not even being reported. They don't wanna get killed for grassing up her brother do they?

innocent people being killed in small villages by serial killers. and then families being told to protect themselves! told by the cops to protect themselves!

armed robbers getting away coz the police was involved in their robberies.

There is a lot of work for the pakistani police and courts to do!

goodnight.

Bliss — Sat, 18 Nov 2006 - 00:59

[quote="peacegirl"][quote="Bliss"][quote="peacegirl"] the fathers who kill their own daughters? why is it so easy for them to get away?[/quote]

father killing their own daughters i thougth it had decreased they still doing it[/quote]

it still happening! they are getting away with it!

girls are being raped by their own brothers in that country. and not even being reported. They don't wanna get killed for grassing up her brother do they?

innocent people being killed in small villages by serial killers. and then families being told to protect themselves! told by the cops.

armed robbers getting away coz the police was involved in robbing some local business man.[/quote]

:shock: i new it was bad bt never this badd