Americans themselves now suspect their own government of being behind 9-11 attacks; and once the real truth gets out on exactly how devil Bush and his evil murdering cronies did 9-11 and other terror attacks, and then people will know that Islam was wrongly blamed, then after that they will feel so sorry about all the wars and invasions, and then, for sure, most of the American people will convert to Islam as an atonement of their sins against Muslims. This is written.
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Ayatollah rightly named America as "Great Satan". www.presstv.ir
Americans themselves now suspect their own government of being behind 9-11 attacks; and once tthe real truth gets out that Bush and his cronies did 9-11 and that Islam was wrongly blamed, then for sure most of the American people will convert to Islam as an atonement of their sins against Muslims. [b]This is written[/b].
where exactly is this written?
unless you mean by you, on this forum, just now...
in which case, carry on ([size=9]making me laugh[/size])
Americans themselves now suspect their own government of being behind 9-11 attacks; and once tthe real truth gets out that Bush and his cronies did 9-11 and that Islam was wrongly blamed, then for sure most of the American people will convert to Islam as an atonement of their sins against Muslims. [b]This is written[/b].
where exactly is this written?
unless you mean by you, on this forum, just now...
in which case, carry on ([size=9]making me laugh[/size])
Do not bother trying to get any justification from Malik for his comments. He as confused as the person who tells him beating yourself is ok!
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He who sacrifices his conscience to ambition, burns a picture to obtain the ashes!
Americans themselves now suspect their own government of being behind 9-11 attacks; and once the real truth gets out on exactly how devil Bush and his evil murdering cronies did 9-11 and other terror attacks, and then people will know that Islam was wrongly blamed, then after that they will feel so sorry about all the wars and invasions, and then, for sure, most of the American people will convert to Islam as an atonement of their sins against Muslims. This is written.
No i have to disagree the Americans do not suspect their government because Bush is good. He uses religious quotes from the bible to get the support of his ppl. Some Britains can see Bush and Tony Blair for what they are and what their plan was all along. I really dont see the Americans converting to Islam though.
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No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
Submitted by Seraphim on 30 July, 2007 - 14:01 #97
Oh comeon, the only Americans who suspect their own government are the conspiracy folks. The rest either suspect theres more to it than they're being told or blindly accept what they're beign told.
Its VERY unlikely the true people responsible for 9/11 will ever be found, and even if they are the people will forget all about what they did in the name of 'The War on Terror'... the deaths of all the innocent will get swept under the carpet and forgotten about.
Malik bro, you forget the devils greatest weapon is making people believe he doesn't exist. He's a master of at deception.
Malik bro, you forget the devils greatest weapon is making people believe he doesn't exist. He's a master of at deception.
I know, and that is why I leave it to my Ayatollah to tell us about American plots. During Muharram we get told about Satan and his tricks and how he tries his best to misguide us. Great Satan fears only the Ayatollahs who know exactly how to crush his grapes.
[b]
Iran's Supreme Leader Brands US, Israel his Country's Main Enemies [/b]
Voice of America, 28 July 2007
Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said Saturday the United States and Israel are his country's main enemies.
In a televised speech, Khamenei said hatred toward the U.S. is growing around the world. His remarks come just three days after the United States rejected an Iranian suggestion to hold higher-level talks on the security situation in Iraq.
Iran suggested the talks as U.S. and Iranian ambassadors to Iraq met in Baghdad to discuss Iraq's security.
The U.S. has accused Iran of supplying weapons and training to Shi'ite militias in Iraq. Iran denies the charge.
Khamenei's comments came as he marked the birthday of Imam Ali, the first Imam of Shia Muslims.
The United States and Iran have had little official contact for 27 years.
Washington broke off diplomatic relations in April 1980 several months after Iranian activists seized the U.S. embassy in Tehran and took its staff hostage.
Ayatollah rightly named America as "Great Satan". www.presstv.ir
Submitted by Seraphim on 30 July, 2007 - 16:09 #99
"malik" wrote:
Great Satan fears only the Ayatollahs who know exactly how to crush his grapes.
Dude, i was talking about conspiracy theories... why do you have to bring food into this?
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Submitted by Brother on 31 July, 2007 - 15:28 #100
Conspiracy theorys..... hmm..........
I'm not sure about the 9/11 one but I am pretty sure about the moon conspiracy theories and sincerely believe that Neil Armstrong did not set foot on the moon.
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"Purity is half of faith.......Prayer is the light...patience is illumination; and the Quran is an argument for or against you. Everyone starts his day and is a vendor of his soul, either freeing it or bringing about its ruin." Muslim
Submitted by Seraphim on 31 July, 2007 - 15:34 #101
"Brother" wrote:
Conspiracy theorys..... hmm..........
I'm not sure about the 9/11 one but I am pretty sure about the moon conspiracy theories and sincerely believe that Neil Armstrong did not set foot on the moon.
We've heard these claims before. :roll:
I tell ya what, next time you build a rocket visit the moon and look for the Stars and Stripes flag.
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Submitted by Brother on 31 July, 2007 - 15:39 #102
Look, how can the flag flap so heavily when scientifically there is no wind on the moon and how come the shadows are messed up..........
How come no other nation has been able to achieve this since.....
How can such technology be invented earlier on......
and there are other claims as well....
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"Purity is half of faith.......Prayer is the light...patience is illumination; and the Quran is an argument for or against you. Everyone starts his day and is a vendor of his soul, either freeing it or bringing about its ruin." Muslim
Submitted by Seraphim on 31 July, 2007 - 16:15 #103
"Brother" wrote:
Look, how can the flag flap so heavily when scientifically there is no wind on the moon
You're right there is no wind on the Moon. But then, there's no atmosphere, either. When the astronauts planted the flagpole they twisted it back and forth to sink it into the lunar soil. On the Earth, that would have made the flag "wave" for a few seconds, then stop. But that's because the flag pushes against air as it flaps, and the air slows it down. On the Moon, there was no air to stop the flag's motion, so it continued, just as Newton's First Law of physics says it should. So of course the cloth flag waved.
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and how come the shadows are messed up..........
shadows are caused by light hitting an object or reflecting of another object. As a result a shadow is cast behind the object. You presume the only light source out there would be the sun. However you are forgetting the reflected light off another object..... if you haven't already guess that other object. Its the lunar surface itself. It possess an interesting property that tends to reflect light back in the direction from where it came.
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How come no other nation has been able to achieve this since.....
It was called a race for a reason. First person there wins. After that theres little point. If you know your history you'll know that this was during the height of the Cold War with the Soviets who were more than likely monitoring the Apollo missions. It was easy to tell whether the Apollo radio signals were coming from the direction of the Moon, and whether the time delays in conversation matched the distance the signals had to travel. If anything had seemed wrong, surely these unfriendly countries would have loudly shouted to the world that the USA was pulling a hoax! Yet none of them ever questioned NASA's accomplishment.
Incase you didnt know its very expensive putting a man on the moon and since its already been done and they've brought back a bunch of moon rock too for every1 to examine. Whats the point?
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How can such technology be invented earlier on......
why not?
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and there are other claims as well....
Im sure there are. Bottom line ... the Americans landed on the moon... end of.
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Submitted by Brother on 31 July, 2007 - 16:19 #104
"Seraphim" wrote:
Im sure there are. Bottom line ... the Americans landed on the moon... end of.
I'm still not properly convinced but your probably right.
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"Purity is half of faith.......Prayer is the light...patience is illumination; and the Quran is an argument for or against you. Everyone starts his day and is a vendor of his soul, either freeing it or bringing about its ruin." Muslim
Many American themselves don't believe that their nation has landed on the moon. They suspect that it was one big hoax. If you see the film [b]Capricorn One[/b], you see how the government could have pull off the trick of deceiving the public.
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Ayatollah rightly named America as "Great Satan". www.presstv.ir
Submitted by Seraphim on 31 July, 2007 - 16:23 #106
"malik" wrote:
Many American themselves don't believe that their nation has landed on the moon. They suspect that it was one big hoax. If you see the film [b]Capricorn One[/b], you see how the government could have pull off the trick of deceiving the public.
Even if they did... dont you think the Soviets, the Chinese or the Germans would have realised it was a hoax? That the radio signals werent coming from the moon? :roll:
Its a load of cobblers Neil Armstrong WAS NOT the first man to land on the moon. It was all a conspiracy by America to fool the world. It was all filmed in area 51. If anyone attempts to go anywhere near it they can face a prison sentence or be shot on site. They obviously have something to hide!
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No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
Submitted by Seraphim on 1 August, 2007 - 09:46 #109
"Naz" wrote:
Its a load of cobblers Neil Armstrong WAS NOT the first man to land on the moon. It was all a conspiracy by America to fool the world. It was all filmed in area 51. If anyone attempts to go anywhere near it they can face a prison sentence or be shot on site. They obviously have something to hide!
Only problem with that is your arguement is based on speculation... pure speculation.
If you tried to get onto any military base in any country, you'd get arrested. Its not something specific to Area 51.
And i just disproved all the main reasons people believe the moon landing was a hoax... unfortunately some people cant see the truth even when its presented to them.
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Submitted by Ya'qub on 1 August, 2007 - 10:35 #110
if the americans went to the moon, how come they didn't see any clangers?!?!?!
if the americans went to the moon, how come they didn't see any clangers?!?!?!
A most convincing argument!
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Great Satan lies more than you think.
We cannot believe what they tell us.
Whole world knows how America twists things for its own benefit.
People now have a right to suspect what Americans try to claim:
[b]Pat Tillman and Jessica Lynch [/b]are just two examples.
President Bush's military commanders made up lies in order to show the world how brave these soldiers were.
But the reality was quite the opposite.
Pat was no hero and Jessica was a coward.
Media bought the lies and reported them in 2004.
There are hundreds of other cases still being investigated.
Allah will make sure that Satan is disgraced.
[b]Satan's soldiers make up lies in order to claim bravery.[/b]
—
Ayatollah rightly named America as "Great Satan". www.presstv.ir
Submitted by Brother on 1 August, 2007 - 16:31 #113
Sorry to go off-topic but isn't Seraphim some sort of Jewish name.
I have heard it somewhere before.
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"Purity is half of faith.......Prayer is the light...patience is illumination; and the Quran is an argument for or against you. Everyone starts his day and is a vendor of his soul, either freeing it or bringing about its ruin." Muslim
Sorry to go off-topic but isn't Seraphim some sort of Jewish name.
I have heard it somewhere before.
Seraphim is the plural of Seraph (I think). Seraph = angel.
He is saying he is many angels.
or, they are supposedly to be a group of cylons in the upcoming Season 4 of BSG.
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Seraphim on 1 August, 2007 - 16:43 #115
"You" wrote:
"Brother" wrote:
Sorry to go off-topic but isn't Seraphim some sort of Jewish name.
I have heard it somewhere before.
Seraphim is the plural of Seraph (I think). Seraph = angel.
He is saying he is many angels.
or, they are supposedly to be a group of cylons in the upcoming Season 4 of BSG.
LOL, you were close the first time and then off by a mile the second. I dont even watch BSG... I watched like 2/3 eps and got bored.
Seraphs are the highest known rank of Angels. Its true they were originally mentioned in the Hebrew version of the Bible (Old Testament) and later were adapted into the Christian version of the Bible.
Seraphs have appeared in various movies and TV programs and comics. The most notiable possibly being the character Seraph in The Matrix: Reloaded Movie and in Matrix Revolution.
But as shakespeare once put it: Whats in a name?
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Submitted by Ya'qub on 1 August, 2007 - 16:45 #116
I always thought it was like a Terrapin, but slightly different in some way...hmm.
anyway, what is 'Brother?' isn't that Hindu??? the monks in wales who were trying to protect shambo the sacred TB-cow were called 'brother fred' or 'brother birt' or something.
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Don't just do something! Stand there.
Submitted by Brother on 1 August, 2007 - 16:50 #117
Brother is used in loads of myths, legend, religions, beliefs and even some other languages.
When the great Muslim says Brother it hints that he means a Brother in Islam however some people see other meanings related to such a name but they are just foolish.
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"Purity is half of faith.......Prayer is the light...patience is illumination; and the Quran is an argument for or against you. Everyone starts his day and is a vendor of his soul, either freeing it or bringing about its ruin." Muslim
Submitted by Ya'qub on 1 August, 2007 - 16:53 #118
"Brother" wrote:
Brother is used in loads of myths, legend, religions, beliefs and even some other languages.
When the great Muslim says Brother it hints that he means a Brother in Islam however some people see other meanings related to such a name but they are just foolish.
....or the were making a joke.......o well
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Don't just do something! Stand there.
Submitted by Brother on 1 August, 2007 - 16:56 #119
"Ya'qub" wrote:
....or the were making a joke.......o well
I personally did not find that joke quite so amusing.
My sense of humour is not that bad you know.
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"Purity is half of faith.......Prayer is the light...patience is illumination; and the Quran is an argument for or against you. Everyone starts his day and is a vendor of his soul, either freeing it or bringing about its ruin." Muslim
Its a load of cobblers Neil Armstrong WAS NOT the first man to land on the moon. It was all a conspiracy by America to fool the world. It was all filmed in area 51. If anyone attempts to go anywhere near it they can face a prison sentence or be shot on site. They obviously have something to hide!
Only problem with that is your arguement is based on speculation... pure speculation.
If you tried to get onto any military base in any country, you'd get arrested. Its not something specific to Area 51.
And i just disproved all the main reasons people believe the moon landing was a hoax... unfortunately some people cant see the truth even when its presented to them.
You shouldnt believe everything America tells you. I with Malik on this one.
lol
Don't just do something! Stand there.
Yea! Viva la anarchy!!!
Infrastructure sucks! I love using how powered weapons to kill off my neighbors and gain access to untreated water wells!!
Americans themselves now suspect their own government of being behind 9-11 attacks; and once the real truth gets out on exactly how devil Bush and his evil murdering cronies did 9-11 and other terror attacks, and then people will know that Islam was wrongly blamed, then after that they will feel so sorry about all the wars and invasions, and then, for sure, most of the American people will convert to Islam as an atonement of their sins against Muslims. This is written.
Ayatollah rightly named America as "Great Satan".
www.presstv.ir
where exactly is this written?
unless you mean by you, on this forum, just now...
in which case, carry on ([size=9]making me laugh[/size])
Don't just do something! Stand there.
Do not bother trying to get any justification from Malik for his comments. He as confused as the person who tells him beating yourself is ok!
He who sacrifices his conscience to ambition, burns a picture to obtain the ashes!
No i have to disagree the Americans do not suspect their government because Bush is good. He uses religious quotes from the bible to get the support of his ppl. Some Britains can see Bush and Tony Blair for what they are and what their plan was all along. I really dont see the Americans converting to Islam though.
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
Oh comeon, the only Americans who suspect their own government are the conspiracy folks. The rest either suspect theres more to it than they're being told or blindly accept what they're beign told.
Its VERY unlikely the true people responsible for 9/11 will ever be found, and even if they are the people will forget all about what they did in the name of 'The War on Terror'... the deaths of all the innocent will get swept under the carpet and forgotten about.
Malik bro, you forget the devils greatest weapon is making people believe he doesn't exist. He's a master of at deception.
Back in BLACK
I know, and that is why I leave it to my Ayatollah to tell us about American plots. During Muharram we get told about Satan and his tricks and how he tries his best to misguide us. Great Satan fears only the Ayatollahs who know exactly how to crush his grapes.
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSHOS84369520070728
Ayatollah rightly named America as "Great Satan".
www.presstv.ir
Dude, i was talking about conspiracy theories... why do you have to bring food into this?
Back in BLACK
Conspiracy theorys..... hmm..........
I'm not sure about the 9/11 one but I am pretty sure about the moon conspiracy theories and sincerely believe that Neil Armstrong did not set foot on the moon.
"Purity is half of faith.......Prayer is the light...patience is illumination; and the Quran is an argument for or against you. Everyone starts his day and is a vendor of his soul, either freeing it or bringing about its ruin." Muslim
We've heard these claims before. :roll:
I tell ya what, next time you build a rocket visit the moon and look for the Stars and Stripes flag.
Back in BLACK
Look, how can the flag flap so heavily when scientifically there is no wind on the moon and how come the shadows are messed up..........
How come no other nation has been able to achieve this since.....
How can such technology be invented earlier on......
and there are other claims as well....
"Purity is half of faith.......Prayer is the light...patience is illumination; and the Quran is an argument for or against you. Everyone starts his day and is a vendor of his soul, either freeing it or bringing about its ruin." Muslim
You're right there is no wind on the Moon. But then, there's no atmosphere, either. When the astronauts planted the flagpole they twisted it back and forth to sink it into the lunar soil. On the Earth, that would have made the flag "wave" for a few seconds, then stop. But that's because the flag pushes against air as it flaps, and the air slows it down. On the Moon, there was no air to stop the flag's motion, so it continued, just as Newton's First Law of physics says it should. So of course the cloth flag waved.
shadows are caused by light hitting an object or reflecting of another object. As a result a shadow is cast behind the object. You presume the only light source out there would be the sun. However you are forgetting the reflected light off another object..... if you haven't already guess that other object. Its the lunar surface itself. It possess an interesting property that tends to reflect light back in the direction from where it came.
It was called a race for a reason. First person there wins. After that theres little point. If you know your history you'll know that this was during the height of the Cold War with the Soviets who were more than likely monitoring the Apollo missions. It was easy to tell whether the Apollo radio signals were coming from the direction of the Moon, and whether the time delays in conversation matched the distance the signals had to travel. If anything had seemed wrong, surely these unfriendly countries would have loudly shouted to the world that the USA was pulling a hoax! Yet none of them ever questioned NASA's accomplishment.
Incase you didnt know its very expensive putting a man on the moon and since its already been done and they've brought back a bunch of moon rock too for every1 to examine. Whats the point?
why not?
Im sure there are. Bottom line ... the Americans landed on the moon... end of.
Back in BLACK
I'm still not properly convinced but your probably right.
"Purity is half of faith.......Prayer is the light...patience is illumination; and the Quran is an argument for or against you. Everyone starts his day and is a vendor of his soul, either freeing it or bringing about its ruin." Muslim
Many American themselves don't believe that their nation has landed on the moon. They suspect that it was one big hoax. If you see the film [b]Capricorn One[/b], you see how the government could have pull off the trick of deceiving the public.
Ayatollah rightly named America as "Great Satan".
www.presstv.ir
Even if they did... dont you think the Soviets, the Chinese or the Germans would have realised it was a hoax? That the radio signals werent coming from the moon? :roll:
Use your common sense people. :roll:
Back in BLACK
Don't just do something! Stand there.
Its a load of cobblers Neil Armstrong WAS NOT the first man to land on the moon. It was all a conspiracy by America to fool the world. It was all filmed in area 51. If anyone attempts to go anywhere near it they can face a prison sentence or be shot on site. They obviously have something to hide!
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
Only problem with that is your arguement is based on speculation... pure speculation.
If you tried to get onto any military base in any country, you'd get arrested. Its not something specific to Area 51.
And i just disproved all the main reasons people believe the moon landing was a hoax... unfortunately some people cant see the truth even when its presented to them.
Back in BLACK
if the americans went to the moon, how come they didn't see any clangers?!?!?!
Don't just do something! Stand there.
A most convincing argument!
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Great Satan lies more than you think.
We cannot believe what they tell us.
Whole world knows how America twists things for its own benefit.
People now have a right to suspect what Americans try to claim:
[b]Pat Tillman and Jessica Lynch [/b]are just two examples.
President Bush's military commanders made up lies in order to show the world how brave these soldiers were.
But the reality was quite the opposite.
Pat was no hero and Jessica was a coward.
Media bought the lies and reported them in 2004.
There are hundreds of other cases still being investigated.
Allah will make sure that Satan is disgraced.
Read this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6925316.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6588611.stm
[b]Satan's soldiers make up lies in order to claim bravery.[/b]
Ayatollah rightly named America as "Great Satan".
www.presstv.ir
Sorry to go off-topic but isn't Seraphim some sort of Jewish name.
I have heard it somewhere before.
"Purity is half of faith.......Prayer is the light...patience is illumination; and the Quran is an argument for or against you. Everyone starts his day and is a vendor of his soul, either freeing it or bringing about its ruin." Muslim
Seraphim is the plural of Seraph (I think). Seraph = angel.
He is saying he is many angels.
or, they are supposedly to be a group of cylons in the upcoming Season 4 of BSG.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
LOL, you were close the first time and then off by a mile the second. I dont even watch BSG... I watched like 2/3 eps and got bored.
Seraphs are the highest known rank of Angels. Its true they were originally mentioned in the Hebrew version of the Bible (Old Testament) and later were adapted into the Christian version of the Bible.
Seraphs have appeared in various movies and TV programs and comics. The most notiable possibly being the character Seraph in The Matrix: Reloaded Movie and in Matrix Revolution.
But as shakespeare once put it: Whats in a name?
Back in BLACK
I always thought it was like a Terrapin, but slightly different in some way...hmm.
anyway, what is 'Brother?' isn't that Hindu??? the monks in wales who were trying to protect shambo the sacred TB-cow were called 'brother fred' or 'brother birt' or something.
Don't just do something! Stand there.
Brother is used in loads of myths, legend, religions, beliefs and even some other languages.
When the great Muslim says Brother it hints that he means a Brother in Islam however some people see other meanings related to such a name but they are just foolish.
"Purity is half of faith.......Prayer is the light...patience is illumination; and the Quran is an argument for or against you. Everyone starts his day and is a vendor of his soul, either freeing it or bringing about its ruin." Muslim
....or the were making a joke.......o well
Don't just do something! Stand there.
I personally did not find that joke quite so amusing.
My sense of humour is not that bad you know.
"Purity is half of faith.......Prayer is the light...patience is illumination; and the Quran is an argument for or against you. Everyone starts his day and is a vendor of his soul, either freeing it or bringing about its ruin." Muslim
You shouldnt believe everything America tells you. I with Malik on this one.
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
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